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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink, I&P new super link July 2011

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Lionking1900
post Mar 8 2012, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 8 2012, 10:03 AM)
actually, for I&P why not just try 1-2 phase, put perimeter fencing as selling point, see the units can move or not?

thing is they dun even wana try man, reflect the mentality of the management

1. refuse to change, facade also lazy to do diff one
2. complacent
3. ignorant
4. lazy
5. tak ape, u mau u beli, u tak mau, belah....
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I must raise a concern here before all the above is materialised.

1. Alam Impian is under jurisdiction of MBSA (Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam). Some of the council, ie: MPKJ (Majlis Perbandaraan Kajang) DO NOT allow gated concept. Likewise, I have not visited MBSA for years and not sure what is their latest guideline for this.

2. Let say MBSA do not allow the developer to have gated and guarded. But you see some others development has such G&G, my personal view :-
a) The developer is prepare NOT to handover the Road and Drainage, Or
b) The developer obtain a special approval (which I don't think have any chance), Or
c) The developer obtain more than 70% to have G&G and appeal to MBSA

In most time, developer will pick option A to go ahead with GG if the local council is not in favour of G&G concept.
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 8 2012, 10:10 AM)
I must raise a concern here before all the above is materialised.

1. Alam Impian is under jurisdiction of MBSA (Majlis Bandaraya Shah Alam). Some of the council, ie: MPKJ (Majlis Perbandaraan Kajang) DO NOT allow gated concept. Likewise, I have not visited MBSA for years and not sure what is their latest guideline for this. 

2. Let say MBSA do not allow the developer to have gated and guarded. But you see some others development has such G&G, my personal view :-
    a) The developer is prepare NOT to handover the Road and Drainage, Or
    b) The developer obtain a special approval (which I don't think have any chance), Or
    c) The developer obtain more than 70% to have G&G and appeal to MBSA

In most time, developer will pick option A to go ahead with GG if the local council is not in favour of G&G concept.
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I do actually ask I&P it sound same reason they give about the road and drainage problem, but wonder why TTDI AI can do it... shakehead.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 10:19 AM

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the way i see it....simple .....

to I&P perimeter fencing is a problem to the developer, troublesome, what for need to land to stickly situation, cannot be done one

on the other hand

to other developers perimeter fencing is not problem, proven can be done, a sure $$$ when it is implemented

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QUOTE(yoki @ Mar 8 2012, 10:19 AM)
the way i see it....simple .....

to I&P perimeter fencing is a problem to the developer, troublesome, what for need to land to stickly situation, cannot be done one

on the other hand

to other developers perimeter fencing is not problem, proven can be done, a sure $$$ when it is implemented
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I dont think is so much on $$$$ it might due to some procedure or approval? I dont know but will clarify again this issue soon with MBSA or I&P again~
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post Mar 8 2012, 02:27 PM

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i heard that canting 1 community come out with their own money to fence up their area. is this true? I dont know where is canting 1 ...
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post Mar 8 2012, 02:43 PM

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According to the person in charged, I&P (or previously known as Alam Impian Sdn Bhd) has submitted their master plan (Alam Impian) bout 9 yrs ago, in the original plan, they dun indicate any fencing and no such approval has been obtained fr the local authority, unlike TTDI AI, the developer has submitted the fence layout during their initial proposed plan (p/s TTDI came to AI much later than I&P). It is a hassle for I&P to amend the original plan, they has so far submitted 2 amendments for the Bdr Kinrara master plan but had been challenged by the local authority (still fighting).
Since 2009, I&P had received numerous request / complaints fr local residents pertaining to the security issue, the Bdr Kinrara existing residents association has problem to obtain enuf quorum fr residents to fence the Taman. The minimum requirement is 75% / 65%, anyone can confirm this?
In order to overcome this, I&P has started to ask purchaser to sign a consensus form during the new project launching, the letter serve to fulfill the required quorum for future residents association / developer (I&P) to set up fence at each and every new phase. According to the chief, if I&P has excess fund, they will look into this matter, they are aware of the fence issue. Qaseh (Kinrara), Temasya (Glenmarie), Pentas (Alam Impian) all have this letter.
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post Mar 8 2012, 03:04 PM

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Are you able to obtain the info how many already signed the letter for Pentas resident? For those who did not seen the letter before, what should he/she do in order to get it done?
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 8 2012, 03:04 PM)
Are you able to obtain the info how many already signed the letter for Pentas resident? For those who did not seen the letter before, what should he/she do in order to get it done?
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Sign together during SPA signing, if 100% sold then 100% letters signed
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UFO taikor, if this is the case, then Pentas 1 is 100% sold and signed, I&P should be able to put up fencing if they have extra fund?
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post Mar 8 2012, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 8 2012, 03:54 PM)
UFO taikor, if this is the case, then Pentas 1 is 100% sold and signed, I&P should be able to put up fencing if they have extra fund?
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You have found the critical words "extra fund". tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 8 2012, 03:54 PM)
UFO taikor, if this is the case, then Pentas 1 is 100% sold and signed, I&P should be able to put up fencing if they have extra fund?
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It is worth spending our own money to do it ourselves, the property value will increase at least another 10% for sure, m checking the cost (using anti-climb galvanized steel)..
according to the main contractor, no allocation for the fence


Added on March 8, 2012, 4:42 pmDear fellow Pentas buyers,

I have an unofficial GREAT NEWS!! Pentas 1,2 & 3 will probably hv anti-climb galvanised fence!!!!!!

Wait for my further confirmation, dun ask the sales staff, they might not know.

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post Mar 8 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 8 2012, 04:07 PM)
It is worth spending our own money to do it ourselves, the property value will increase at least another 10% for sure, m checking the cost (using anti-climb galvanized steel)..
according to the main contractor, no allocation for the fence
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Normal chain fencing (the green color) - RM35/m (5ft)
Hi-Sec fencing (closed-up rectangular form) - RM280/m (5ft)


Added on March 8, 2012, 4:45 pm
QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 8 2012, 04:07 PM)
It is worth spending our own money to do it ourselves, the property value will increase at least another 10% for sure, m checking the cost (using anti-climb galvanized steel)..
according to the main contractor, no allocation for the fence


Added on March 8, 2012, 4:42 pmDear fellow Pentas buyers,

I have an unofficial  GREAT NEWS!! Pentas 1,2 & 3  will probably hv anti-climb galvanised fence!!!!!!

Wait for my further confirmation, dun ask the sales staff, they might not know.
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How suppose i can go around to the lake infront of my unit wo..... hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 8 2012, 04:07 PM)
It is worth spending our own money to do it ourselves, the property value will increase at least another 10% for sure, m checking the cost (using anti-climb galvanized steel)..
according to the main contractor, no allocation for the fence


Added on March 8, 2012, 4:42 pmDear fellow Pentas buyers,

I have an unofficial  GREAT NEWS!! Pentas 1,2 & 3  will probably hv anti-climb galvanised fence!!!!!!

Wait for my further confirmation, dun ask the sales staff, they might not know.
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You are the MAN~!!

QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 8 2012, 04:43 PM)
Normal chain fencing (the green color) - RM35/m (5ft)
Hi-Sec fencing (closed-up rectangular form) - RM280/m (5ft)


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How suppose i can go around to the lake infront of my unit wo.....    hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Install Transparent nti-climb galvanised fence whistling.gif
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post Mar 8 2012, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(M2K2Land @ Mar 8 2012, 04:48 PM)
You are the MAN~!!
Install Transparent nti-climb galvanised fence  whistling.gif
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You better install a special door for me to pass thru ... tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 8 2012, 04:43 PM)
Normal chain fencing (the green color) - RM35/m (5ft)
Hi-Sec fencing (closed-up rectangular form) - RM280/m (5ft)


Added on March 8, 2012, 4:45 pm

How suppose i can go around to the lake infront of my unit wo.....    hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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dig a hole underneath the fence lah biggrin.gif Tikus tikus korek lubang tongue.gif
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 8 2012, 04:52 PM)
dig a hole underneath the fence lah  biggrin.gif Tikus tikus korek lubang  tongue.gif
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Bro UFO,

Wa-lau-yeh..... want to be like this meh? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

I object to have this fencing~~!!!!!! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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look like there is some hope now. Agree funding ourself is easier and we can faster. Thanks!
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 8 2012, 05:32 PM)
look like there is some hope now. Agree funding ourself is easier and we can faster. Thanks!
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funding is faster but not 100% will agreed, somemore those not contribute the funding get benefit, that what I hate (investor)
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I hope none of the resident will do this. We can form community and put some enforcement.
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QUOTE(Ang Ang @ Mar 8 2012, 06:00 PM)
I hope none of the resident will do this. We can form community and put some enforcement.
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Since InP might help on fence up... I think we can leave this question behind 1st flex.gif

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