Oct 10 2014, 07:05 PM
QUOTE(mixhali @ Oct 10 2014, 04:35 PM)
I think this practice is very wrong and unfortunately has become an accepted HR practice in Malaysia. Your previous salary history is between you and your previous employer. HR staff requesting this are simply being oppressive towards the new candidate. By putting your existing salary on the table you are giving the employer the upper hand which will leave you out in the cold come salary negotiation. Hr departments should hire you based on the quality of your CV, your previous experience, skills and interview quality. those attributes should contribute to a fair offer based on Market expectations. Previous salary should have nothing to do with it. This culture is only acceptable because Malaysians allow it to be acceptable. As a lot of posts have said, if you say no then they will move on to the next candidate. Well if all candidates refused then whose market is it? You all need to band together in order to effect a change. As a hiring manager if I requested to interview someone and HR said that I cannot see this person as they will not reveal their previous salary I would insist to see them. Stand up for yourselves Malaysians.
And to the people in this thread saying they can use this to screen out candidates that do not fit the budget, this is BS, the expected salary is what effects your budget not what I'm currently earning.
Finally this is contributing to Malaysian poor income standards, Part of someones plan to keep you poor and dumb.
Spot on! Perhaps we can apply some forms of law, e.g. Personal Data Protection Act 2010 into this so that we can come to terms on the requesting salary issue. Anyone? And to the people in this thread saying they can use this to screen out candidates that do not fit the budget, this is BS, the expected salary is what effects your budget not what I'm currently earning.
Finally this is contributing to Malaysian poor income standards, Part of someones plan to keep you poor and dumb.
QUOTE(LY115 @ Oct 10 2014, 05:45 PM)
Well... do allow me to share my opinion why employer is asking your current salary and expected salary...
I was once annoyed with such questions too. but when i start becomes the employer side. That is important for a company to know the budget they need to hire someone for that position.
Besides, if everyone is get 40% jump on every time they change jobs... Guess who is at the losing end??? the employers, not a single company but the industry as a whole. In order to keep the competition in term of cost, they will want to keep a certain % of increase from your previous salary.
As the area and industry that i'm working for, the employer will offer max 20% more from your previous salary. of course there will be exceptional cases. But in general that's the real job market.
Try change your perspective from employee to employer, you get to know all the reasons for them to ask. i would say not only Malaysia asks for current and expected salary, i believe the Asia culture works that way.
That's just my experience and opinion. One day you have become the Employer... you feel the pain... for paying too much for someone...
That's a total bull. You pay based on what you can afford. If you have a budget that can only get you a Proton Saga, do you expect to buy a BMW at the proton price? This is how market works, and how a job market should work. If every employer offers 20% increment from the previous salary, what is the point of job interview? You can just simply call that employee/applicant and offer him/her the standard 20% raise based on his/her relevant work experience and banzai, you have got your new staff. I was once annoyed with such questions too. but when i start becomes the employer side. That is important for a company to know the budget they need to hire someone for that position.
Besides, if everyone is get 40% jump on every time they change jobs... Guess who is at the losing end??? the employers, not a single company but the industry as a whole. In order to keep the competition in term of cost, they will want to keep a certain % of increase from your previous salary.
As the area and industry that i'm working for, the employer will offer max 20% more from your previous salary. of course there will be exceptional cases. But in general that's the real job market.
Try change your perspective from employee to employer, you get to know all the reasons for them to ask. i would say not only Malaysia asks for current and expected salary, i believe the Asia culture works that way.
That's just my experience and opinion. One day you have become the Employer... you feel the pain... for paying too much for someone...
This post has been edited by abc2005: Oct 10 2014, 07:12 PM
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