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English Clubs Liverpool Football Club - The Kop Talks 2011, OFFICIAL: Insua OUT. Good Luck!

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post Aug 3 2011, 03:34 PM

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I say we move gerrard to the right midfield position and move dirk kuyt upfront (where he belongs). I think Gerrard brings more positive impact on our problematic right midfield position. We can rotate Gerrard and/or Jordan Henderson on the right midfeld position.

Left midfield will be helmed by Steward Downing. No contest. Maxi can play if Downing is injured/not fit/tired/rested

Central Midfield we have a lot of choices. But best bet is to start with Charlie Adams and Lucas. Lucas as ball winning midfielder and Adams as deep lying playmaker. That would be solid enough.

Meanwhile we can put Luis Suarez into the paul scholes position i.e. hole behind forwards. That way he can have maximum impact exploiting the hole and bombing forward with his skills and trickery. Aquilani can play in this position if fit.

There. Midfield problem solved.
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post Aug 9 2011, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(jackjack1988 @ Aug 8 2011, 11:26 PM)
Meireles and aurelio cant be sold !
Especially Meireles .
He has been a great asset to Liverpool eversince he join Liverpool ..
Provide numerous assists and important goals .
Aurelio has been a good free kick taker ...
Scored a great free kick against Man Utd in 4-1 win against MU
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Say's who?
Why do we need players who take GBP 60k~80k a week just to sit on the bench?
Aurelio has lost yards of pace and is not looking as sharp as he once was. If he is not playing regular EPL games, he will only deteriorate....sell him while he still has value....
As for Meireles, we could easily get GBP12~15 million for him. We could sell him and pony up a few quid more to get a top class central defender like Per Metersacker who is currently available.

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QUOTE(all blacks @ Aug 9 2011, 02:37 PM)
Plz keep in mind tat both Stevie n Aqua are fragile n same goes to Raul.. So we can always shuffle among them.. Nvr seen 60 - 80K player seating on the bench, juz c Man C, 250K wil b seating on the bench... Mayb tats the secret of success, sometime if u juz look at Man U bench they can easily come up to 100 million but tat doesn't mean they need to sell... Its also quality on the bench matters, to come n chg the game last minute n I think Raul is brilliant in doing tat..
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Agree that Stevie and Aqua are fragile. But we have Cole (i really don't think ANY club is dumb enough to buy him even for free considering his GBP 90k a week salary) and Poulsen (same reason as cole only slightly lesser salary and older) and Lucas and Spearing. Even Maxi can play central from time to time.

As for Man City, We're not Man City. Our owners does not have the money Man City does. Coupled with the recent financial probelms in the USA, i only hope they could just maintain and not do a George Gillet and Tom Hicks fiasco. Rather than paying Mereiles and Aurelio their hefty wage to sit on the bench, might as well sell them when there is value. I think inter is interested in Mereiles. They are only waiting for the 2 Manchester club to buy Wesley before pursuing Mereiles.
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post Aug 11 2011, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(yelfuzz @ Aug 11 2011, 10:16 AM)
Enrique is ANFIELD bound! twitter timeline flooding with news on that! well now for CB position with Dann or Cahill. Either one will be okay by me but Cahill is more suited to Carra's replacement.

Heard that Ngog also will be chased by Bolton with an improved offer. If he leaves we should really try to sign one more strike!

Also Daglish and team looks to pounce on Fernando Gago within the range of 8m as Real look to offload him. Another defensive mid? well we already have too many imo but what the hell. If you have a solid Midfield, half the battle is won already smile.gif
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Noooo......get Per Mertesacker...he's waaaaaayyyy better than Dann or Cahill.... and NO to fernando gago....we should get another striker.....
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post Aug 11 2011, 01:30 PM

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we need a central defender....carragher cannot play 30+ games a season...he's already 33 yrs old......agger and skrtel is injury prone and prone to loss of form....anyway we need someone to replace carragher for the long term and Per Metersacker ticks all the boxes. Strong, tall, good in the air, great timing of tackles, vision , very good international experience and most importantly consistent ...
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post Aug 11 2011, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(xMika @ Aug 11 2011, 01:32 PM)
Skrtel injury prone ? !! He played all the games last season !!
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Agger is injury prone, Skrtel is prone to loss of form lar doh.gif


Added on August 11, 2011, 4:19 pm
QUOTE(normeck @ Aug 11 2011, 03:19 PM)
we need a backup for Carra. Same character like carra, the determination, controlling the back 4 with his vocal.

Who will be the candidate? Seniority ? Local lads? or world class star footballer?
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Which is why we need Per Metersacker. He is all of the above and more


Added on August 11, 2011, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(wts6819 @ Aug 11 2011, 02:44 PM)
Ya, mana SOS? no SOS tarak sedap.
Once Enrique sign for Liverpool. Defence side would be look much better!
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Much better for the time being sweat.gif
Once any one of the back 4 sustains an injury, its shocking.gif
No capable replacement for right and left back. Only have 1 ok centreback in Agger/Skrtel to partner Carra. Krygiakos is a dud....no pace, not great in the air, not strong enough....

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 11 2011, 04:51 PM)
first say skrtel injury prone, now say kyrgiakos not great in the air  doh.gif
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Kyrgiakos is not great in the air...i remembered he was beaten a couple of times in the air for our EPL matches. I cringe everytime he plays...
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post Aug 14 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Aug 14 2011, 12:10 AM)
anyway,some should stop bashing the players.they are all yet to gel.This is not our full strength team yet.

Gerrard,johnson and aquilani will play and make the team tick.So chillax and lower down your expectations.

Realistically we can only tell if a title challenge is possible when we have our full strength team.
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It's not that we, Liverpool fans wanna bash our own players, but sometimes the players have to stand-up to the challenge and perform when they pull on the Liverpool jersey. Some players like flanno are just maybe awestruck to be playing in the EPL and Caroll really have to hit the target more often. I say flanno is just not ready for EPL football yet. Maybe in the future but definately not now. Loan him out first.

I know this Liverpool squad is still new and takes some time to gel. But I expect them to excel at basic football skills such as accuracy of passing, situational awareness and for strikers, hitting the target at the very least. Some of our passing are downright criminal. Again I do not want to single out any players but there are a couple of times we passed the ball straight at SUnderland players from 5 yards out. This is criminal. Compare it against Sunderland, their passing was much more crisp and regularly found their intended target.

Situational awareness means being aware who's around you, whether teamates or opposition. Our players are all over the place and couldn't seem to figure out who's who. (Charlie Adams and Lucas always get into each others way for some reasons) As for hitting the target, Caroll have at least 20 headers which only i guess 10% hitting the target. I expect more. I don't expect him to score for every header won but at least hit the target and make the keeper work.

Let's hope that this is just temporarily, and we buck up after this dissapointing draw. If we play the way we played against better team, we will get torn apart.
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post Aug 23 2011, 10:37 AM

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We don't need Bad Old Boy Bellamy! We need a young striker, hopefully someone who could learn a thing or 2 from Suarez......
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QUOTE(vreis @ Aug 23 2011, 12:00 PM)
Beats me as well. But personally I think its a bit flaw as English steel seems a bit dated. I mean how long does a majority English team win anything? You have to look back in the 80's Reds team which coincidentally managed by KD as well.
Problem is English steel no longer rules the roster, anyway what wrong could it be mixing some of the silky skills & flair (not withstanding Suarez) to those steel? Selling him to Milan at a price dictated by Milan will be the dumbest thing to be done.
Actually in Meireles, there's someone with similar game play to Stevie but there's none in the team that offer what Aqua has.
Since selling him at 4mil will be almost same as losing him for free, might as well utilise him to the end of his contract even with rambling from his agent but heck, which agent keep their mouth shut???? None, cos thats what they do.
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I disagree to the fullest extent on your comment. English players don't have the skill and flair of European counterparts but it's their determination, heart and never say die attitude is what KD is looking for. I have watched EPL and Liverpool for >20 years and I can clearly see the English players commitment to the game when they play they play their hearts out. Last couple of season (during the Benitez era) Liverpool struggle for someone (Stevie G and J Carragher aside) to take the game by the scruff of the neck to the opponents and inspire the team of foreigners to play better. Stevie G is one of them but unfortunately he is in and out of injury. So hopefully with Henderson, Adams (although technically he's Scottish) and Downing, we have people who can take the lead and inspire foreigners to perform better especially when we are trailing.
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post Aug 25 2011, 09:48 AM

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Why are we playing our first teamers like Suarez, Meireles and Adams against Exeter? We need to rest them especially Suarez for the next premier league game. Suarez has not been on a rest for the last season due to copa america. We need him fresh, lively and sharp......playing him against Exeter is a waste of his energy. I believe the 2nd team like n'gog should be more than adequate to overcome lowly Exeter. Besides i don't think fans would care much about the league cup if we win the EPL........
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BTW when is Gerrard expected to return?


Added on August 25, 2011, 4:22 pm
QUOTE(REDShaun @ Aug 25 2011, 10:46 AM)
Ok no offence bro, but I am pretty cheese off by fans like yourself to deny any match a "couldn't give a rat's S" attitude. League Cup or not it's like what KD says, you have to respect the other team. Its by being respectful in both winning and losing, in any game no matter how big or small that makes us a respectable club.

KD has already infused his ideology of an already great club into his players and hopefully now he can do it to fans like you. Every match is a risk and every match is a chance to improve the team. Sure Miereles was injured, but he could have also been injured in training too even if he didn't feature, who's to say?

By saying its a waste of his or any players energy playing a "small" team is disrespectful and in so many levels that is where we went wrong last season. It does the team no morale good losing anytime of the season. Remember the loses to "smaller" or "unknown" teams? Remember our first half of the season?

If you are truly a fan then you would want to see Liverpool win every game - BIG or small. You would want to see your players playing together, gelling with every chance they get. And KD did make changes and he made good those changes. Unless he is a manager gone daft, i think this morning's performance is more than enough to build up the confidence of Carroll, Henderson and the rest of the team to shut most critics up. That confidence boost is priceless, more than trying to be over protective of our players like you suggested. To be fair, Suarez was rested when he only came on for the last 20 mins for the Arsenal game.

Have a read and understand what the KD is trying to do and if winning the League becomes a reality, it would be from this man's influence and confidence that he brings to the team and the fans.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...andy-and-exeter?

that is my take on your post and yes I disagree a whole lot but no, still no offence.

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Yes I do want to see Liverpool win, preferbly every game. and yes in an ideal world we would like to give the due respect that Exeter deserves. But unfortunately (as pointed out by many) Suarez remains one of our MOST important player who would WIN games for us in all competitions. Unfortunately, the EPL has 36 games and including league cup games, etc there is about 40-50 games a season depending on how far Liverpool could go. Do you really expect Suarez (who had no rest during the break bcoz of copa america) to play all 50 games? (even as a sub) Don't you want to keep him as fresh as possible so that he can win IMPORTANT games instead.... Remember Liverpool don't have a huge squad of quality players like Man City.... He's our one of our few talisman to unlock stuborn defences with his lifewire display especially during the middle of the season...You don't want him injured in a game against Exeter (like Meireles) then miss all the more important games, do you? You don't want to overwork suarez and see him tired mid way through the season do you? Bottom line is we have no choice. We can't pull someone like Aguero or Dzeko from the bench....

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Aug 25 2011, 10:24 PM)
i dont think such a rule exists in UK.
else there's also aurelio, aquilani, doni, insua...
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Aurelio - Has spanish passport
Aquilani - Italian and therefore EU citizen
Doni - not sure, maybe foreigner
Insua - if not mistaken has a italian passport
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post Aug 27 2011, 08:36 PM

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STEVEN GERRARD!!!! Put him in the current team and we have a really good first 11 capable of beating anybody....except maybe Barca, if they play like they play in the UCL final against Man U

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