Say.. out of curiosity, does the syllabus for algorithms still come from Llyod Allison?

engineering runs for 8 semesters. so you should finish 8 semesters from your starting one, assuming you don't need to retake any subjects.

23rd July is not exactly the course start date. But its more of the 1st day of the semester that you'll be starting in.

Normally there's 1 convocation ceremony per year (for KL at least), which takes place around August or September (unless they changed it now). But make sure you put in the application to graduate as soon as you get your final semester results and have the required points for graduation.

But the convocation is just a ceremony where you receive your actual certificate (which is just basically an extremely plain piece of paper). Immediately after your final semester results are out, you can request for an updated official academic transcript that shows that you have completed all required subjects to graduate, and ask for a letter from Monash stating as such as well. That's enough for you to do stuff like apply for jobs, etc..

This post has been edited by malleus: Mar 22 2012, 01:13 PM

find somebody that you can swap with, and if the semester has already started for a while, think of a good excuse on why they should allow the 2 of you to swap

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Added on March 22, 2012, 11:22 pmIts the same foundation for all courses in Monash. Check with the course advisor on your course preferences, and they'll inform you of the prerequisite subjects that you'll need to take during the foundation year to qualify for the course of your choice.

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Added on March 22, 2012, 11:23 pmyou go look for the account and finance club and the swimming club lor...

This post has been edited by malleus: Mar 22 2012, 11:23 PM

Some courses may have very similar sounding subjects with each other, with the subjects being classed as prohibitions (meaning, you can only take one, but not both) as the contents are similar. However the level of difficulty can be rather different, depending on the course that the subject is offered as part of.

I'll give you an example of this from the IT Faculty (as I'm more familiar with that. but same principal still applies to all faculties). One example being the CSE**** (Computer Science) and the BUS**** (Business & IT) subjects (or at least that's what the subject codes used to be). Both the Computer Science course and the Business & IT courses have some similar sounding subjects, such as 'Operating Systems'. However a student who's enrolled in Business & IT will very likely die when if he/she is to take the Computer Science version of the subject (which is also why Business & IT students are usually not allowed to take any Computer Science subjects of the second year and above as their electives)

Bachelor of Commerce, from what I remember is offered at the Clayton campus, and has got the highest entry requirement of all the business courses. And you'll need to not only look at the subjects offered within each course to determine the difference, but you'll also need to ask about the depth of the subjects themselves too. See above as well on my explanation between Computer Science and Business & IT, the same thing applies here too.

In the Australian system, a 3 year course does not come with automatic honors. Its only achievable via a 4th honors year, which is by invitation only. Meaning, don't bother to apply for the 4th honors year. If you're not invited into it, it means you're not qualified. Qualification is based on your results for your 2nd and 3rd years. The honors year concludes with a publication of a research thesis, of which scoring a 1st class honors may qualify you for a PhD program without needing to first do your masters (also assuming that you can find a PhD supervisor willing to take you on)

Business and Science can be related. Some aspects of business (especially the more mathematical aspects of it) can be considered a science as well.

But its been a while since I've looked at the current course offerings that Monash has got, so what I can tell you is this. Go over to Monash and talk to a course counsellor, and ask them about the differences between the courses. They're in the best position to advise you on this.

and make sure you have a good and valid reason if you wish to do this.

Comp Sci is probably one of the easiest to transfer between Malaysia and Clayton. You don't need to worry about the credit transfer at all as the course is exactly the same. Unless you had taken some funny subjects from other faculties for your free electives. But not much of this to worry about lately as the entire IT faculty is supposed to be more or less more streamlined between the different campuses now.

they don't choose. you apply for it. But of course you'll need to maintain a certain credit average (check with the course manager for further information on this)

well, only way to know is to put in your application anyways. And its a definite that you'll need to maintain your grades anyways.

During my job hunting days after graduation, I found that my chances are actually better than those lower ranking unis despite my CGPA being lower than theirs.

Its similar to how even those who had dropped out of MIT (no matter how smart the entire class is, they'll still need to flunk a certain number of those at the tail end) into a lower ranked university to finish their undergrad can still do very well when they hunt for jobs

I've seen ppl with even 2.75 from higher ranking universities getting into investment banking. This is another very plain and simple fact too.

And I've seen people with good CGPAs getting rejected from investment banking because they graduated from a dubious university.

if the content of the subject is still what I think it should be, then check this out:

http://www.allisons.org/ll/AlgDS/

Consider yourself lucky. It used to be a lot more difficult before the watering down.

This post has been edited by malleus: Apr 22 2012, 07:50 PM

here's a little tip. Go and look at that link that I provided in my post when I had replied to melvin.

There's quite some bits of javascript demo of the algorithms on that site. Best thing about the javascript demos is that you can view the page source and check out the code in javascript. Should be easy enough for you to port it to C or Java (whichever you're making use of as the learning language now).

If you're wondering who's website that is, that's Llyod Allison's website, the guy behind the dreaded CSE2304 Algorithms and Data Structures subject that used to plague every single CS student who went through Monash before the course outline restructuring. Its almost a guarantee then that almost the entire class will fail the exam before they scale the results.

under the Australian system, all 3 year degree courses do not have automatic honors. The honors year is a 4th year, that is by invitation only, depending on your 2nd and 3rd year results. This 4th honors year is by research, and concludes with the publication of your thesis.

had a peek at the syllabus for Comp Sci at Nottingham. Assuming that I'm looking at the correct course there (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/ugstudy/courses/computerscience/bsc-computer-science.aspx), both Nottingham and Monash are pretty similar in the Comp Sci courses that they offer.

Some minor differences includes:
- OS is taught at the 2nd year level at Monash, but 3rd at Nottingham
- Monash places more emphasis on Formal Reasoning compared to Nottingham
- Software engineering group project is done at the 3rd year level, and is usually considered as the main project before graduation.
- the Comp Sci course at Monash will not get you an honors degree. But this is more of a difference between the
Australian system and the British system. Under the Australian system, for 3 year degrees, you can only get an Honors degree if you're to complete a 4th year that's by invitation only (depends on your 2nd and 3rd year results). This 4th year is by research and concludes with the publication of your thesis. Needless to say, an Australian honors is worth much more than a British honors due to this.

Take note that when I mentioned something being taught at the 2nd year vs something taught at the 3rd year, what this means is that something that is taught in the 2nd year level is somewhat easier and less in depth than something that is taught at the 3rd year level.

heh.. the fellow is actually a very decent academic. if you can stay awake that is. we used to call him 'dead man walking'

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Added on April 28, 2012, 11:47 pmPostgrad students as tutors is actually a very common thing. Not just in Monash Australia, but in a lot of universities around the world. Its also possible to get 3rd year students being tutors for 1st year subjects too (although not here, as there's a prohibition against undergrad students doing tutoring work in Malaysia).

The purpose is actually to off load some of the work from the lecturers, and also to get the post grad students some field experience.

Before transferring, check and compare on the syllabus first. that is where the main difference lies at.


say, out of curiosity, are you doing Comp Sci or IT?

This post has been edited by malleus: Apr 28 2012, 11:48 PM

IT, that figures. IT tends to be known as the course for those who cannot get into Comp Sci to get into, or for those who drop out of Comp Sci to get into. Even somebody who was in the committee who put together the current IT course's precursor had mentioned to me that its just a mickey mouse course that's too watered down in both the technical and science aspects.

Then again, its the same in every single university out there that offers both an IT course and an actual Comp Sci course.

its a generic foundation year for all courses in Monash. so its not necessarily a foundation for just Phamacy alone

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Added on May 23, 2012, 6:28 pmcorrect that there's no specific foundation for pharmacy. but the existing foundation year does allow for entrance into Monash pharmacy as well

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Added on May 23, 2012, 6:29 pmthere's no such thing as a principal in Monash.

The academic in charge of a campus carries the title of Pro Vice Chancellor. And its Robin Pollard.

This post has been edited by malleus: May 23 2012, 06:29 PM

there's no such thing as a foundation in science. the foundation year that Monash offers is applicable to all courses in Monash. Just that different courses will have different prerequisite subjects that you'll need to take during the foundation year, and not to mention, different entry requirements.

but anyways, if your A level results is not able to get you into Monash, even on a conditional offer, then yes, the foundation year does offer you an alternate route in

conditional offer into MUFY or into Monash?