funny enough its owned by ministry of higher education.but i dont understand why it wanted to charge soo much

now i'm questioning my decision to study in malaysia.
immigration and visa formalities should be the least worry a student should have.
i'm already deemed successful , so i'm getting my formalities done, but when i land in kl, will i have to surrender my passport to them and get the visa?
students without passports are treated like criminals and put in detention zones.
there's also a sunway and monash student mentioned here.
i'd like to get both of their views as to what is going on.
is this for visa extention , or for issuing new visa?
every year i have to get blood test done?
WTF

First-year foreign students must now sit a paper called Communication in Bahasa Melayu ao that they can communicate in Bahasa Melayu

taken from link
http://www.pendidikanmalaysia.com/2012/08/...vices-emgs.html

does monash too have this?

yes about the bahasa thing....the government implemented a new system starting this year.....

international students will have to go for classes that teach you basic communications in Bahasa Melayu

its not international students only........local student that have done Malaysian Studies/ Moral Studies during their pre-u yearshave to redo again because of new system


my whole batch is angry =(

how do you say
busshit - bullshit in bahasa?

wait a second...
do i have to learn and give an exam for bahasa ?

err merepek maybe?since it means talking rubbish

ah ok.
ryan u're a foreign student right?
any issues with visas?

nope im true blue malaysian lol
sad to see international students having problems with EMGS

i believe the intention of emgs is good i.e. to filter those ''awang hitam'' who are here on study visa but do not attend their colleges/uni.instead committing crime,etc

This post has been edited by ryan18: Nov 10 2013, 06:44 PM

and also monash students are included in the list.
also it looks when u got for visa renewal and u're not able to get your passport within time, u are charged for overstaying even though u've done your work properly and correctly.
police can just detain you for having the receipt of emgs saying it's a fake.

also what's the deal with bahasa that i have to learn it.
is there an exam for it or such for international students?

http://www.monash.edu.my/academic-services/es/gs/gs-faq.html
have a read here
5. I am an international student from Indonesia and have taken Malay paper at ‘O’ Level. Do I still have to undertake Communicative Malay?
The guidance from MOE is that international students from Indonesia, Brunei and Singapore who have successfully completed the Malay paper at ‘O’ level, can undertake Communicative Malay or otherwise opt to undertake another unit in U2, to fulfill all the required credit hours for GS.

so many new units for General Studies

oh man...
http://www.monash.edu.my/academic-services...l-students.html

As a prerequisite for the award of a certificate, diploma, advanced diploma or 1st degree,
- All International students must undertake GS at each level of studies
- Malaysian citizens must pass GS at each level of studies

so do we have to take an exam or not?

i'm not malay nor have i ever taken malay language as a test.

with the new system its unclear whether more % for coursework or for exam
even if there is exam it should be easy

u dont have to ace it ... it doesnt affect your cgpa of ur course


during orientation ...i remember the requirement is local students to pass ....while international students just have to sit ( dont even need to pass)

the previous version of malaysian studies was freaking easy...even without studying also can get a B+

ah ossum
i don't mind learning about cultures and stuff about a place.
i don't mind learning too a few words or sentences.
i don't like it when it affects my cgpa , which u said it won't.

also junolow how much do text books costs.
also , do u have chem adv course?

first of all , im certain that i wont affect ur cgpa ....2nd during orientation i didnt pay mch attention during requirement of international students , but im more than sure u dont even need to pass it ( u better ask them to clarify though)....

well the exams isnt that hard...just the lectures are boring and waster your time ...class normally on weekends(from my previous experience).....but from what I've heard , it seems that they are increasing the marks for presentation/projects etc

i dont really know how much a brand new text book costs.....all my lecture notes are available online and my class ppl have found e-book version of the textbooks


im still in sem one 1st year...still basic units ....ppl normally get textbook during 2nd year onwards when they start taking their major units


im in chemical engineering...sem 1 units are same for everyone (civil/electrical).....i will have a chemistry unit on sem 2

ah i've got bio , chem , in year 1,...
i'm really trying to get myself out of bahasa...
i'd rather prefer to learn japanese or spanish.
walaneh...

erm...as long ur studying in malaysia...u will have to do this ....

i prefer learn korean or france =3=

even if it is owned by ministry, once it is privatized, the emby employee's salary is not bound by gov paygrade... therefore they can give themselves a big fat salary and milk others

well, msia have its pros n cons...

dnt worry, being a monash student have its privileges... d student support u will get is good, so if u have any probs with the authorities, u can get it solved fast as compared to the rest

tahi lembu... u can say that to the immigration officer