Thank you very much, Aar0nY. I hope you won't mine my adding you as a contact -- I'm certainly going to need all the info I can get! And I didn't know that we've to pay the Australian fees for our second semester of exchange to Clayton campus!

Guys ive got my conditional offer from nottingham, now im having second thoughts and thinking about monash aswell.. Based on your experience which one is better? Im going to do Computor Science..

No worries, man.
Yea, the system changed during the semester when I enter Monash Sunway.
One semester should be sufficient though, but still, some people do exchange for one year ;D

had a peek at the syllabus for Comp Sci at Nottingham. Assuming that I'm looking at the correct course there (http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/ugstudy/courses/computerscience/bsc-computer-science.aspx), both Nottingham and Monash are pretty similar in the Comp Sci courses that they offer.

Some minor differences includes:
- OS is taught at the 2nd year level at Monash, but 3rd at Nottingham
- Monash places more emphasis on Formal Reasoning compared to Nottingham
- Software engineering group project is done at the 3rd year level, and is usually considered as the main project before graduation.
- the Comp Sci course at Monash will not get you an honors degree. But this is more of a difference between the
Australian system and the British system. Under the Australian system, for 3 year degrees, you can only get an Honors degree if you're to complete a 4th year that's by invitation only (depends on your 2nd and 3rd year results). This 4th year is by research and concludes with the publication of your thesis. Needless to say, an Australian honors is worth much more than a British honors due to this.

Take note that when I mentioned something being taught at the 2nd year vs something taught at the 3rd year, what this means is that something that is taught in the 2nd year level is somewhat easier and less in depth than something that is taught at the 3rd year level.

For those who are in Sunway Campus and study IT... Don't take FIT2018, you will deeply regret it. Those who already took it already know why...

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Added on April 28, 2012, 7:23 pmI don't know how things are in Nottingham but personally for me, I don't think that Monash is worth what we are paying them. Why is that. Because perhaps facilities are good and etc, but you know, here you will have lots of phd student as your tutors who don't know practically anything what they are tutoring. You come with a questions to them and they don't know what to reply. The reason of this is that management they just assign the tutors practically randomly. Maybe they do it i order to save money on salary, I don't know exactly. But what i am sure about is that Monash is not worth 36k i am paying for. That's why i will try to transfer to some public university. I don't think it would be worse that Monash. SO if no difference, why pay more?

P.S. I am talking only about School of IT, I don't know how things are in other schools.

This post has been edited by mehron: Apr 28 2012, 07:25 PM

heh.. the fellow is actually a very decent academic. if you can stay awake that is. we used to call him 'dead man walking'

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Added on April 28, 2012, 11:47 pmPostgrad students as tutors is actually a very common thing. Not just in Monash Australia, but in a lot of universities around the world. Its also possible to get 3rd year students being tutors for 1st year subjects too (although not here, as there's a prohibition against undergrad students doing tutoring work in Malaysia).

The purpose is actually to off load some of the work from the lecturers, and also to get the post grad students some field experience.

Before transferring, check and compare on the syllabus first. that is where the main difference lies at.


say, out of curiosity, are you doing Comp Sci or IT?

This post has been edited by malleus: Apr 28 2012, 11:48 PM

30 Monday
Census date for teaching periods: full-year (FY-01), full-year-extended (FY-32) and term 2 (T2-57. Last day to discontinue units in these teaching periods without incurring fees
Last day to discontinue units in these teaching periods without incurring fees
Last day to discontinue semester 1 units to have 'withdrawn' rather than 'withdrawn fail' showing on your academic record.

Does this mean if i withdraw a particular subject it will refund? Then the balance will be brought to next semester?
And in my academic record it will show withdrawn?

i can tell u public uni are much worse...
their syllabus changes without much or a warning (or their credit value) as what a few of my friends experienced in UM...
teaching was really inconsistent, timetables clashes all the time, lecturers goes MIA before canceling the class 15 minutes after the start time etc...

in every uni, it is normal for the post grad to be tutoring...
even in public uni like UM as well...

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Added on April 29, 2012, 2:55 pmi am not sure about the refund cause it would be towards the end of the sem soon adi rite?

This post has been edited by evofantasy: Apr 29 2012, 02:55 PM

The problem is not that we have post grads as tutors, the problem's that they don't know what are they teaching about. So when you have unclear moments, they don't know how to solve it.

P.S. I am doing IT.

IT, that figures. IT tends to be known as the course for those who cannot get into Comp Sci to get into, or for those who drop out of Comp Sci to get into. Even somebody who was in the committee who put together the current IT course's precursor had mentioned to me that its just a mickey mouse course that's too watered down in both the technical and science aspects.

Then again, its the same in every single university out there that offers both an IT course and an actual Comp Sci course.

everything in IT usually u get it from the book from my perspective...
its nt what u would remember sadly >.<

i would usually advise ppl to jz go for comp science straight...

Bad news folks.....Monash Sunway is now facing massive exodus of staff....especially at admin building.....overheard some staff conversation in the lift.

did you over hear why?

Small increment, minuscule bonus ,overworked......I don't find it surprising. Some admin staff hold multiple portfolio and when one goes on leave, the whole world will stop. No one knows what is happening unless they staff is back from leave. Some departments are seriously understaffed...

School of Business is also facing high staff turnover......dun be deceived by the advertisement they put out every time in newspapers.....they are not expanding...they are massively shrinking....

The minimum wage will add a few more ringgit to the salary.

in general we are understaffed... more n more students are coming in (mostly in the business side)... i think the benefits is pretty decent or at least it is for me la... i think the main issue is the formal chain they have which when 1 person is on leave, everything get pushed back...

You probably never seen other universities then. If there is a problem with the tutor, you can always change tutor or just consult the lecturer. If you can't take it, you can always complain to the head of school.

Consult the lecturer, they always help.

This happens everywhere. In case you don't know, approximately a year ago, Victoria University lecturers were having a strike and holding the results of the students.. If some other universities can face such catastrophe, I'd say we are doing decent.. Not to say very good as well as some ex-lecturers are not being replaced..

doesn't sound like a big deal to me...happens in every other uni as well.. lecturers don't come and go can already..that's all i am asking for...

Do any of you guys know how to factorize the following?
2(3^n) + 3(3^n-1)?


from the notes it was like this
Example 1.
F(n + 1) = F(n) + F(n - 1) by denition of the Fibonacci numbers
<2^n + 2^n-1
= (1 + 1/2) 2^n
< 2^n+1
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Example 2.
F(n + 1) = F(n) + F(n - 1) by denition of the Fibonacci numbers
>(1:5)^n + (1:5)^n-1 by the inductive hypothesis
= (1 + 1/1.5)(1.5)^n
>(1.5)^n+1

This post has been edited by melvin471: May 1 2012, 08:09 PM

Dude the thing is I've already complained about some issues (and not only me, some other students). I even conducted a mini-survey, asking students about their satisfaction with the subject, and i got very alarming results. I went with all these to the head of the school and coordinator and I've been promised some changes. So far 4 weeks has past and nothing has changed. They all say that they will discuss the issue on a meeting which is always being postponed. Now, I think, that if you really want to do something you can do it earlier not waiting for some stupid meeting. What I understood from all this experience is that they don't really care. Seriously, monash is not woth 36k per year.