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post Jul 18 2011, 06:47 PM, updated 15y ago

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I just bought new Ford Fiesta 1.6L Sport. I just wondering is 1000KM is necessary? I check the service booklet and Ford website, but nothing mention about every 1000KM.

Also, if new car (including my fiesta), is it true we have to drive slow (80-90KM/hr) before 1000 KM service?

Please enlighten me..
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post Jul 18 2011, 07:02 PM

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kindly refer to here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1608466 and here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1955438

by right, any new engine should go for the 1000km service for oil change

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QUOTE(wanw84 @ Jul 18 2011, 06:47 PM)
I just bought new Ford Fiesta 1.6L Sport. I just wondering is 1000KM is necessary? I check the service booklet and Ford website, but nothing mention about every 1000KM.

Also, if new car (including my fiesta), is it true we have to drive slow (80-90KM/hr) before 1000 KM service?

Please enlighten me..
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not every 1k, just the 1st 1k.

break-in for 1k is kinda short for me, i would rather do 2k~5k km if i were you.
just remember not to rev it higher than 3k RPM
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post Jul 18 2011, 07:11 PM

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i also saw the booklet mention do not rev the engine when in first 1k km, kinda weird cause when i watch mega factories series,
bently rev their newly assembled engine in engine room for 8 hours ( i think is for break in? ) in full rev ( forgot how high), audi , lamborghini all do the same, rev at 8000rpm + for hours . that y i don know y they recommend don rev over 3k, but in real condition rev less than 3k rpm very hard for me lo..... i get my new inspira , already 6.xk rpm + , i decided to ignore the manual advised.
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post Jul 18 2011, 07:25 PM

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Lamboghini annual production is almost 3000 units, roughly about 250 units a month and Bentley's 2010 production is 4854 units. How many do you think Ford's overall productions is for all models? How to actually find manpower to handle breaking in the engines. QC is already a headache and is done randomly after the specified numbers. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:01 PM

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do you actually understand what i mean?if not please read again what i comment at above. i not mean that lamborghini had factory broke in procedure, what i means is lamborghini/ bently those factory drive their new engine hard, while ford / proton recommend not drive over 3k rpm? this is weird right, thats why i decided to ignored it.

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post Jul 18 2011, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 18 2011, 11:01 PM)
do you actually understand what i mean?if not please read again what i comment at above. i not mean that lamborghini had factory broke in procedure, what i means is lamborghini/ bently those factory drive their new engine hard, while ford / proton recommend not drive over 3k rpm? this is weird right, thats why i decided to ignored it.
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one is a hand made engine, with strict tolerance measures........ another is mass produced engine....... what do you think?
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:13 PM

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With mass production cars, no break in down at factory except randomly.
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:15 PM

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the difference is quite simple. u are not driving a lamborghini nor a bently. their engine are made for hardcore rev. their piston and all parts are made to stand the pressure. it is the lubrication period during the 1st 1k -5k. it means that the engine is trying to get used to the friction, heat and all things. the computer is also monitoring. if u always rev high please tell ur service center. so that they check ur engine for the parts that will wear down. if u do not tell and touch wood, it wont be too long that u complain about ur car.
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Jul 18 2011, 08:11 PM)
one is a hand made engine, with strict tolerance measures........ another is mass produced engine....... what do you think?
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then you mean what here mention is not truth also?

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What's The Best Way To Break-In A New Engine ??
The Short Answer: Run it Hard !


Why ??
Nowadays, the piston ring seal is really what the break in process is all about. Contrary to popular belief, piston rings don't seal the combustion pressure by spring tension. Ring tension is necessary only to "scrape" the oil to prevent it from entering the combustion chamber.

If you think about it, the ring exerts maybe 5-10 lbs of spring tension against the cylinder wall ...
How can such a small amount of spring tension seal against thousands of
PSI (Pounds Per Square Inch) of combustion pressure ??
Of course it can't.


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post Jul 18 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 18 2011, 11:16 PM)
then you mean what here mention is not truth also?
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read what i wrote...... carefully........
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(maddriver @ Jul 18 2011, 08:21 PM)
read what i wrote...... carefully........
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what you mean is like hand made engine need to hard break in procedure, while mass production engine need to break in with "drive like turtle" procedure, right?

i thought that hand assembled engine like lamborghini factory got precise measurement in their engine which require less time to break in? no?

from that article i posted, author wrote we need drive it hard to let piston ring seal shave off it over size to its correct size.

if lambo's engine precisely measured parts and assembled also need to drive it hard to break in , then why not for mass production engine? can explain why?
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post Jul 18 2011, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 18 2011, 08:16 PM)
then you mean what here mention is not truth also?
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depends on whether u wan ur car to last or to serve u for now only. i only break in my car after the lubrication period. it is much more smoother and can achieve faster than new engine. dunno about you. but from past experience and exprience shared, people that rev hot during lubrication period the car engine will be more louder even during normal time. the conservative one will have a more silent car. u shall see how ur inspira is in years time since ur car is still new. i assume 2years will be enuf to see the difference if u are able to notice the difference though. another thing will be, look at what ur car is. is it made to rev?? made to run fast?? made to be pushed over??

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post Jul 18 2011, 08:42 PM

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my pass experience on waja, rev hard also , until now 9 years old engine still run strong even i drive daily 4k ~ 5.5k rpm usual, some time also drive up to genting will 6.5krpm. this my pass experience la, may b not apply to other, so i do the same to my inspira also.


Added on July 18, 2011, 8:43 pmand yes, i like to push my car when condition allow, else why i bought a manual car?


Added on July 18, 2011, 8:45 pmand also , you wan prolong your engine's life, not only that you not rev your engine high can be done, but using good engine oil will help too.

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post Jul 18 2011, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 18 2011, 09:01 PM)
do you actually understand what i mean?if not please read again what i comment at above. i not mean that lamborghini had factory broke in procedure, what i means is lamborghini/ bently those factory drive their new engine hard, while ford / proton recommend not drive over 3k rpm? this is weird right, thats why i decided to ignored it.
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Proton Persona owner here. Yes it is not advisable to not rev your car to >3k rpm to preserve your engine. Btw just to tell you that. Proton produce >300 cars per day. Correct me if i am wrong.

All the engine block and whatever inside the engine are ready made which they produce and cut out from the mold. By the robotic hand assembling will left out the waste metal or other metal stuffs which are tiny inside our engine.

As you said to rev>3k to improve you engine. I agree but after 1st service meaning is >1000km. Not proton want to earn you money, did you ask proton sc why i cant change my engine lub at 1st 5000km? The 1st 1000km is to let you new baby engine to wash itself with the lubricant. If u notice the 1st 1000km lub being drain out from our engine contain the most waste metal. This is what i saw when the SC drain out the lub for my persona can see with naked eye.

Let said u rev your car after you got it 1st day >3k you new baby will get hurt with all the metal scratch its body and make engine a big burden like you are swallowing munched biscuit without drinking water. Hard to swallow is it. laugh.gif

After 1st 1000km service, rev you car to the maximum till 5000km. I rev to 6.5k to reveal my new baby true power. LOL now my baby are very powerful.

lamborghini or what so ever other branded car they can rev gao gao cos all their item are custom made and handly made. all the every piece of the car are engineered. Of cause they can push to the limit la. Their car price also >10times expensive la. What are you expecting oh bro.

Here is the 2012 Lamborghini Aventador video

http://youtu.be/vadbXg859GA

No offence but i do have a fren who own a hilux. 1st day rev very gao and drive 180KM per hour to college. blink.gif after 1k service top speed is 160KM per hour until now. Japan car leh. He damn regret sia. biggrin.gif

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post Jul 18 2011, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(vccy @ Jul 18 2011, 09:11 PM)
Proton Persona owner here. Yes it is not advisable to not rev your car to >3k rpm to preserve your engine. Btw just to tell you that. Proton produce >300 cars per day. Correct me if i am wrong.

All the engine block and whatever inside the engine are ready made which they produce and cut out from the mold. By the robotic hand assembling will left out the waste metal or other metal stuffs which are tiny inside our engine.

As you said to rev>3k to improve you engine. I agree but after 1st service meaning is >1000km. Not proton want to earn you money, did you ask proton sc why i cant change my engine lub at 1st 5000km? The 1st 1000km is to let you new baby engine to wash itself with the lubricant. If u notice the 1st 1000km lub being drain out from our engine contain the most waste metal. This is what i saw when the SC drain out the lub for my persona can see with naked eye.

Let said u rev your car after you got it 1st day >3k you new baby will get hurt with all the metal scratch its body and make engine a big burden like you are swallowing munched biscuit without drinking water. Hard to swallow is it.  laugh.gif

After 1st 1000km service, rev you car to the maximum till 5000km. I rev to 6.5k to reveal my new baby true power. LOL now my baby are very powerful.

lamborghini or what so ever other branded car they can rev gao gao cos all their item are custom made and handly made. all the every piece of the car are engineered. Of cause they can push to the limit la. Their car price also >10times expensive la. What are you expecting oh bro.

Here is the 2012 Lamborghini Aventador video

http://youtu.be/vadbXg859GA

No offence but i do have a fren who own a hilux. 1st day rev very gao and drive 180KM per hour to college. blink.gif  after 1k service top speed is 160KM per hour until now. Japan car leh. He damn regret sia.  biggrin.gif
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lol...tats why is only rev after lubrication. i saw people posting their new car revving at new. not even faster than my car that is 2years old. lol..is quiet of coz.


back to the topic, the lubrication service is necessary to avoid any damage to the engine. not the breaking in matter.
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post Jul 19 2011, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(wanw84 @ Jul 18 2011, 06:47 PM)
I just bought new Ford Fiesta 1.6L Sport. I just wondering is 1000KM is necessary? I check the service booklet and Ford website, but nothing mention about every 1000KM.

Also, if new car (including my fiesta), is it true we have to drive slow (80-90KM/hr) before 1000 KM service?

Please enlighten me..
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Hi, well so how do you feel when driving? If this first thousand KM, when you're feeling you feel GOOD! Nothing special regarding to the car.. then dont need to service;) do it at 10,000
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post Jul 19 2011, 01:11 AM

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lol
u compare high end hand built engine vs commercial car factory manufactured engine

anyway i heard that when get car need to rev it abit not too high...maybe around 5 to 6k rpm if limit is 8k...it is to break in and let the oil seal and gasket of the engine settle in...
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i drive my vios more than 3k rpm during the first 1000km, so far my vios still healthy. i think just drive it in considerable speed and it should be ok.

generally all mass produced car are able to cater normal daily usage. if you only use it for merely as a point a to point b transportation, you should not to be worry much about break in etc. just take a good care about the maintenance and you are good to go. and when there are wear and tear, replace it. some said that must not rev hard during break in period, some said that must rev hard during break in.. and both side got their facts to back their opinion

but if you start your engine, race it into sepang track in stock condition during your first 1000km then i think you should prepare enough money to cover for maintenance expenses later on.

and.. fiesta is a mass produced car, bentley, lambo and all those exotic car, well.. just leave it there. no need to think much about it. unless you are actually drive one.

 

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