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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion thread V11, The Darth Vader troops !

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vearn27
post Aug 9 2011, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 9 2011, 09:59 PM)
jchue73, yeah I was suggesting based on my assumption that a flash wasn't used. Hence, my suggestion of using custom WB.

Even if a flash was used and wasn't color corrected, in a shoot-and-submit event, the subject's WB is of priority (the skin tone in this case). The background will have to be in the warm state as it is so as long the subject is good.

Vearn, the metering modes does not govern how the skintone looks like, just how bright/dark the skin tone will be WITH RESPECT TO the surrounding ambient light. As for your issue , the safest way is to bring along a clean sheet of A4 paper and measure the WB off it on the spot. If the lighting color changes in your event space, this will be a lot of hassle. This is where learning your Kelvin WB setting comes in handy, a quick adjustment to how you see the light at that point of time and you will get a close enough guesstimation of the Kelvin values. This comes with practice. In events, i tend to use wide-area and centre weighted metering, very seldom i use spot metering, unless that the subject fills the entire frame. I adapt my WB settings to different situations.

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wedding dinner halls with loads of warm tungsten light: i gel my flash to match and uses the kelvin settings to compensate for the warm flash light.
concerts with crazy lights: AWB with no flash (this works the best), if flash is needed, i use flash WB setting.
outdoors sunny/cloudy: AWB (my in camera AWB for these situations give spot on WB without me worrying)
hall with fluorescent lights: custom WB and try to keep my shutter speed at 1/50s or slower so that it completes the shot withing a sine cycle of the power grid's frequency of 50Hz

see when you are free, gimme a ring, could meet up and go do some shooting or yum cha (on you) lol...
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Need more practice with this WB thingy. I'm still far from achieving even the near good result of WB settings. I totally have not much understanding in tuning my WB except placing the gel on my flash.

The situation I was in... it started shooting indoor from evening with a lot of windows allowing lights from outside. Then when it reaches night, yellowish and white lights all around the places and some dim area. Ceiling and wall, some area with and some area without to bounce the flash. Really a tough situation to handle with my skill level at the moment sweat.gif

Yumcha surely no problem, need more guidance and tips from the guru biggrin.gif
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post Aug 11 2011, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Aug 11 2011, 06:26 PM)
Reviews of SB-700; Seems the colour filter provided when fitted on the Flash, it will comunicate with the camera so the camera set the correct WB. Does this feature available for SB-900?
I did notice the Flash able to detect what you "install" into it, e.g. diffuser, color filter; What about SB-900?  or is this a total new feature?

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Yeap, it's available for SB-900 too smile.gif

You can see the flash head icon in the flash's LCD got code after you applied the filter correctly ! (it has a direction for contact tongue.gif)
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 08:57 PM)
Ok
I will Google/wiki it next time
And how much is the D7000 actually ?
I saw at shop got sell RM 43++ plus kit lens 18-105mm but at the internet or lowyat de price RM29++ body only
The lens so expensive meh?
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Last week just bought another set, body only at RM2950 and with kit lens if I'm not mistaken is somewhere around RM3800? Didn't really ask the price of set with the kit lens though because already made up mind to get body only.

QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ Aug 12 2011, 08:59 PM)
18-105 lens can get cheaply around RM600 edi i think  tongue.gif
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Used unit ah? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 09:06 PM)
Alright
Thanks for the info
Looks like the shop at Jusco didn't update their expensive prices
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Dude, prices at commercial complex such as Jusco less likely to offer the so-called street price which you'll get a couple of hundreds off retail pricing.
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Aug 12 2011, 09:11 PM)
vearn27, so u have 2 bodies now? Anyway, Congratz bro!
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Nope, still one body only smile.gif

The one I bought last week is my gf's. Now wanna practice to make myself better in photography and hopefully able to reach full frame on my next body biggrin.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(hidden830726 @ Aug 12 2011, 09:15 PM)
rclxms.gif  so buy one more body after this month new FX launch?

Coool...
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Nah... still far away from it. Gonna practice on my photography skills first before heading to professional class equipment. No point getting there if my skill wasn't able to fully utilize it biggrin.gif

QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 09:17 PM)
Obviously he still don't know anything about prime lens... but from the post its clearly stating he's talking about prime, work up your common sense bro.

And eugene please clear things out before the flame is in.
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Cool down guys sweat.gif

Based from my point of view, he is more like asking why get 50mm single focal length lens when it's already covered by 18-55mm biggrin.gif

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post Aug 12 2011, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(kEazYc @ Aug 12 2011, 09:23 PM)
That's why i answered eugene with the thing i know about primes, but someone seems to not like my explanation or something.
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It's just typo error from eugene88 on the 55mm thingy to brings up the confusion. Cheers biggrin.gif
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post Aug 12 2011, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 11:37 PM)
Sorry guys
Somehow I get confused with the 50mm and the 55mm  rclxub.gif
I apologise once more for all the inconvenience cause
About RM350?  wink.gif
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I suppose you're trying to say... why bother 50mm prime (single focal length) when you can have it covered with 18-55mm zoom lens.

One that differentiates between a prime and zoom lens is the aperture. Since you're new, try google and read about the exposure triangle (Aperture + Shutter Speed + ISO). It's basic and foundation to photography.

Single focus length lens or prime usually has big aperture (smaller the f value, larger the aperture).

Example 50mm f/1.8D or f/1.8G vs 18-55 f/3.5-5.6G. The largest aperture on the 50mm prime is f/1.8 while on the 18-55mm would be f/5.6 maximum on the 55mm end. If you did the googling job above, you should understands how aperture could affect your photo output smile.gif
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post Aug 13 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Aug 12 2011, 11:56 PM)
That is what I wanted to ask  rclxms.gif
And the difference between AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D and AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G?
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Lazy to explain over and over again... I re-posted it several pages ago...

Anyway, check this out if it helps: http://mansurovs.com/nikon-50mm-f1-8g-review
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post Aug 13 2011, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ Aug 13 2011, 01:09 AM)
the 35mm af-s when shoot at f1.8. quite hard to get sharp eyes right if the subject even move a lil bit unsure.gif
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35mm should be easier to handle than 50mm given the larger DOF. Did you set your camera properly? Example high SS and either AF-S (for static subject) and AF-C (for moving subject)? And please... you're sure that you're not moving while you shooting? tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2011, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(xbbshampoo @ Aug 13 2011, 01:18 AM)
mayb my hand shake abit lo. next time i use af-c  brows.gif
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AF-C wouldn't help to prevent from blurry image if you hand-shake sweat.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 14 2011, 09:40 AM)
There is no such thing as original grip from China. I don't think that one is real. It is a counterfeit. If not mistaken it doesn't have magnesium alloy body too! Not to mention the tolerance of those are usually low to cut production cost.
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Well, unless he's stating that the original D7000's battery grip, the MB-D11 is Made from China smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 14 2011, 01:19 PM)

Added on August 14, 2011, 1:21 pm
Made in China? ... I thought it was made in Thailand just like the MB-D10.

Anyways then need to know the pricing, weather it is the counterfeit with plastic body or its the real Nikon with magnesium alloy body.
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Yeah, this is the 2nd time I mentioning to you that D7000's BG, the MB-D11 is Made in China and also the 2nd time you mentioning that you thought it's Made inThailand like the MB-D10 tongue.gif

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post Aug 14 2011, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 14 2011, 06:33 PM)
Sounds like its the original Nikon biggrin.gif, I'm not too sure what's the price like going for a MB-D11. As long the price is too cheap to be true, then you need to start confirming if it is genuine or not.
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Shashinki is selling the MB-D11 at RM499 (Source: http://shashinki.com/shop/nikon-mbd11-mult...ra-p-6592.html)

I bought mine for RM450 from Yannick last time. Need it kinda urgently, therefore didn't survey much for its price and picked from Yannick since he can deliver nearby biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2011, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 14 2011, 08:20 PM)
Yannick so far is reliable for me at least tongue.gif. My D700 + MB-D10 bought from him. Saturday went to KLIMS10 with D90+85G, got pissed off. Monday morning called him up, ready stock terus deal for D700+MB-D10. Then my friend happen to be in KL de bring it back for me xD. Woots~ tongue.gif

If you need the 70-200mm range, of course this is suitable smile.gif
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Sometime I wonder how you guys manage to splash out a big amount of money just like that laugh.gif

Anyway, where and how much you got your 70-200 VRII?

QUOTE(ResQ @ Aug 14 2011, 09:57 PM)
yannick is one sold battgrip oso? i saw only filter thread from him, need to search again. kinda cheap compare to alorsetar. huhu
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He's selling quite a lot of stuff but didn't advertise all. Just give him a call and tell him what you need, see if he could work it out smile.gif
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post Aug 16 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 15 2011, 11:32 PM)
Mind posting a sample and exif? Sometimes, you got no choice but use the flash as main lighting. That way you will avoid the 'stronger spotlight / yellow light' thingy, or at least reduce it.
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How to execute the "use the flash as main lighting" method? huh.gif

Use the flash strong enough to cover the environment lighting?

QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 16 2011, 08:58 AM)
Deep sea diving trip to Japan anyone? biggrin.gif

The D700 replacement would definitely hurt the D3s replacement sales IMO. But oh well, the Nikon sales should know what they're doing I guess. Things is going to get interesting between Nikon and Canon when the next gen of bodies release.
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Yeah, after seeing the successful of D7000. It's more interesting to see how the next gen full frame will perform biggrin.gif

Anyway, my friend mentioned this month's Digital Camera magazine got review on D7000 and it's bad? Anyone came across it?

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post Aug 16 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 16 2011, 11:41 AM)
Your shutter speed, will affect your ambient. Adjust so that your ambient does not influence your subject. Meaning use faster shutter so your flash will be main lighting instead.
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I understand now. This is the reversal of lowering shutter speed to capture ambient light where increasing the shutter speed to relies only on flash light. Well, using this method can easily causing the environment especially the background dim else dark, isn't? In addition, this will requires the flash to pump more power and can easily reach overheating limit.
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post Aug 17 2011, 10:55 AM

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Morning guys. Anyone here today on holiday? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2011, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Aug 17 2011, 11:04 AM)
NO. cry.gif
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What with that kind of face? I'm supposedly on holiday today but stayed overnight at office to do work and now still in shakehead.gif

Anyone here attended those courses from Nikon or Nikonian Academy? How it is?

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Aug 17 2011, 12:13 PM)
Working sad.gif, meh I'm so on a holiday mood now~
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I'm working too although my state is in holiday. To be exact, I was here (office) since yesterday biggrin.gif

Anyway celciuz, again care to share your tips and guide on how to get proper skin tone? I still finds mine yellowish or dull. Probably underexpose... sad.gif

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