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gagak_84
post Jul 13 2011, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(joefbi @ Jul 13 2011, 06:39 PM)
rarely now hear 1.3 to 1.8...only 1.5 or 1.6 to 1.8...but not 2.0 for sure...
yes, surat kawal selia if over 25% and not pg10...my mistake, i guess surat kawal selia is the same thing as pg10..hehehe...my bad.

gagak, in this case we are talk about upgrade others than proton bro...
we all know wira cannot endorse to 2.0 anymore...but not for others model...
like this case, daihatsu...so, stick to the point...hehehe
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Hehehe. Ok

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post Jul 14 2011, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 13 2011, 06:01 PM)
Are u mean that wira 1.5 to evo 2.0 can be endorsed?  Are u sure man? I give u one wira with evo + 1000 can u endorsed it? If yes, i will send my housemate car to you. If fail u need to pay double amount. Wanna bet?

Better u check 1st lor. Many2 years ago can lor. Even 1.3 can Used 2.0 engine many2 years ago.

If u can, there are plenty of wira evo come to u for sure!
Nowadays only 1.8 putra, satria,wira  or perdana can endorsed to 2.0, that is y there are plenty wira user sell their car and buy perdana and transplant + endorsed.
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didnt you read my post properly? I just said it's written in black and white that it's not allowed.


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:43 am
QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 13 2011, 05:00 PM)
putting an evo in a wira cant endorse is definitely not bullshit because it's written in black and white on the JPJ site that its not allowed to do so. It is also written that you can go beyond 30% for endorsement on non proton wira/satria/waja cars. Again, people saying not being able to do so is pure bullshit. I would appreciate if someone actually tried and failed and come tell me in the face. lol

Conclusion? They just listen to rubbish people telling rubbish stories before going to te jpj portal and read themselves
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Added on July 14, 2011, 2:46 am
QUOTE(joefbi @ Jul 13 2011, 06:39 PM)
rarely now hear 1.3 to 1.8...only 1.5 or 1.6 to 1.8...but not 2.0 for sure...
yes, surat kawal selia if over 25% and not pg10...my mistake, i guess surat kawal selia is the same thing as pg10..hehehe...my bad.

gagak, in this case we are talk about upgrade others than proton bro...
we all know wira cannot endorse to 2.0 anymore...but not for others model...
like this case, daihatsu...so, stick to the point...hehehe
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Hi mate,

Surat Kawal Selia is not known as PG10. It is now known as Surat Kelulusan... which you will have to bring this to puspakom. As for mods above 30%(yes, not 25%), the PG10 is compulsory, whereas PG10 can be obtained upon visual inspection by jpj officers on your car BEFORE sending to puspakom. No PG10, no kawal selia... or was it no kawal selia, no PG10, I cant remember which one comes first. rclxub.gif


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:49 am
QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 13 2011, 06:01 PM)
Are u mean that wira 1.5 to evo 2.0 can be endorsed?  Are u sure man? I give u one wira with evo + 1000 can u endorsed it? If yes, i will send my housemate car to you. If fail u need to pay double amount. Wanna bet?

Better u check 1st lor. Many2 years ago can lor. Even 1.3 can Used 2.0 engine many2 years ago.

If u can, there are plenty of wira evo come to u for sure!
Nowadays only 1.8 putra, satria,wira  or perdana can endorsed to 2.0, that is y there are plenty wira user sell their car and buy perdana and transplant + endorsed.
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get your facts right.


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post Jul 14 2011, 09:24 AM

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there are way can get a wila to pass 4g63 block and pass jpj roadblock easily
just how many moalah u willing to spend brows.gif
the price is to get it done 1k is far beyond enuff sufficent whistling.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jul 14 2011, 09:24 AM)
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there are way can get a wila to pass 4g63 block and pass jpj roadblock easily
just how many moalah u willing to spend  brows.gif
the price is to get it done 1k is far beyond enuff sufficent  whistling.gif
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better buy custom form for 4g67 and stamping at evo block.


Added on July 14, 2011, 9:30 am
QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 14 2011, 02:42 AM)
didnt you read my post properly? I just said it's written in black and white that it's not allowed.


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:43 am


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:46 am
Hi mate,

Surat Kawal Selia is not known as PG10. It is now known as Surat Kelulusan... which you will have to bring this to puspakom. As for mods above 30%(yes, not 25%), the PG10 is compulsory, whereas PG10 can be obtained upon visual inspection by jpj officers on your car BEFORE sending to puspakom. No PG10, no kawal selia... or was it no kawal selia, no PG10, I cant remember which one comes first. rclxub.gif


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:49 am
get your facts right.
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we are talking endorsed more than 25%. ,which is why i said wira 1.5 cannot endorsed to 2.0 anymore.. even you have 4000 cash in your hand... this what we are discussed in here.. same thing like charade espri to detomaso.. (1000cc - 1600cc)...but charade espri can be endorsed.. because my officemate and friends already do that... but u need to make sure to convert rear disc brake and grip during emergency braking...

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post Jul 14 2011, 09:30 AM

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hahaha indeed my post is being ignored after someone knew he was acting all up and stuff
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post Jul 14 2011, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 14 2011, 09:30 AM)
hahaha indeed my post is being ignored after someone knew he was acting all up and stuff
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u should know if u already being in this line. many times go to JPJ and puspakom will help u.

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post Jul 14 2011, 11:28 AM

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i still dont understand what are you trying to say or relate by beating around the bush lol.
People from A already reach to Z, you from A reach to N, and jumped back to A again.


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:32 amagain i say. being 25% and 30% incease are two different things. if it's 25-29% its just surat kelulusan aka kawal selia. If it's more than 30% it's PG10. Did i not make myself clear or you were just too blind to read and start contradicting yourself? Your exuberant verbosity intoxicates my mental capacity. moron. Nobody will understand you if you try to beat around the bush and go around in circles when people already go straight to the point. Do a favour by not making an idiot out of yourself. The very moment when I saw you biasing the oils that I sell, I've been watching your posts closely.

You look like a total idiot to me, and the other forumers.









I'm outta here


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:35 amAnd if you wanna talk about things that people already know, eg. an Espri converting to a deto engine without any hassles and issues, tell you what. I own a f***ing charade and I was the one that tried to make the whole f***ing charade forum realise that a 1.0 can go up to 1.6 without any hassles and issues when all or most of them says "Oh canot, more than 25-30%, die also cannot". And when I proved them wrong, they all kept quiet.

So, stfu c*nt

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post Jul 14 2011, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 14 2011, 11:28 AM)
i still dont understand what are you trying to say or relate by beating around the bush lol.
People from A already reach to Z, you from A reach to N, and jumped back to A again.


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:32 amagain i say. being 25% and 30% incease are two different things. if it's 25-29% its just surat kelulusan aka kawal selia. If it's more than 30% it's PG10. Did i not make myself clear or you were just too blind to read and start contradicting yourself? Your exuberant verbosity intoxicates my mental capacity. moron. Nobody will understand you if you try to beat around the bush and go around in circles when people already go straight to the point. Do a favour by not making an idiot out of yourself. The very moment when I saw you biasing the oils that I sell, I've been watching your posts closely.

You look like a total idiot to me, and the other forumers.
I'm outta here


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:35 amAnd if you wanna talk about things that people already know, eg. an Espri converting to a deto engine without any hassles and issues, tell you what. I own a f***ing charade and I was the one that tried to make the whole f***ing charade forum realise that a 1.0 can go up to 1.6 without any hassles and issues when all or most of them says "Oh canot, more than 25-30%, die also cannot". And when I proved them wrong, they all kept quiet.

So, stfu c*nt
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i was waiting for this post.. since i know thundergod owns an espri and he already changed his engine. so i knew that he was talking from experience as a proud owner...

haha.
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post Jul 14 2011, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 14 2011, 11:28 AM)
i still dont understand what are you trying to say or relate by beating around the bush lol.
People from A already reach to Z, you from A reach to N, and jumped back to A again.


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:32 amagain i say. being 25% and 30% incease are two different things. if it's 25-29% its just surat kelulusan aka kawal selia. If it's more than 30% it's PG10. Did i not make myself clear or you were just too blind to read and start contradicting yourself? Your exuberant verbosity intoxicates my mental capacity. moron. Nobody will understand you if you try to beat around the bush and go around in circles when people already go straight to the point. Do a favour by not making an idiot out of yourself. The very moment when I saw you biasing the oils that I sell, I've been watching your posts closely.

You look like a total idiot to me, and the other forumers.
I'm outta here


Added on July 14, 2011, 11:35 amAnd if you wanna talk about things that people already know, eg. an Espri converting to a deto engine without any hassles and issues, tell you what. I own a f***ing charade and I was the one that tried to make the whole f***ing charade forum realise that a 1.0 can go up to 1.6 without any hassles and issues when all or most of them says "Oh canot, more than 25-30%, die also cannot". And when I proved them wrong, they all kept quiet.

So, stfu c*nt
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Relax... we are not reaching to Z yet.. when most reaching z.. u come back to A!
if u have charade espri u should KNOW but saying without any hassle? it can be done but without any hassle? dont joke around man!

3 times i help my friends endorsed charade espri to DETO.. (3 car)

need to PG10 and etc..
failed bracking.. many times in and out from JPJ/Puspakom..

when i saying to convert 25% more for wira.. (wira 1.5 - 2.0) u said can be done..but suddenly u point to wira 1.8.. we are talking about >25% cc man.. i have many friend wira evo..all of them not endorsed! they are not willing to mati katak.. most of them willing to pay up to 3k to endorsed but cannot endorsed!

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local jpj not co strict on engine conversion other than proton and perodua

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post Jul 14 2011, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(sinister_sid @ Jul 14 2011, 12:38 PM)
local jpj not co strict on engine conversion other than proton and perodua
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why ar? government want us to buy a new car i believed..
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post Jul 14 2011, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 14 2011, 12:38 PM)
Relax... we are not reaching to Z yet.. when most reaching z.. u come back to A!
if u have charade espri u should KNOW but saying without any hassle? it can be done but without any hassle? dont joke around man!

3 times i help my friends endorsed charade espri to DETO.. (3 car)

need to PG10 and etc..
failed bracking.. many times in and out from JPJ/Puspakom..

when i saying to convert 25% more for wira.. (wira 1.5 - 2.0) u said can be done..but suddenly u point to wira 1.8.. we are talking about >25% cc man..  i have many friend wira evo..all of them not endorsed! they are not willing to mati katak.. most of them willing to pay up to 3k to endorsed but cannot endorsed!
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memang simple wad. If fail just upgrade or put a damn booster or service the brakes and skim the damn disc, or else just put a freaking twin pot behind la. Whats the hassle?

Never I have mentioned that a WIRA 1.5 can go to a 2.0. Go do a search and highlight/bold if you can find it. 1.3 to 1.8 isnt a problem. I already said numerous times that it's impossible to endorse a 2.0 in a wira as per jpj portal website.

are you dumb or blind or what?


Added on July 14, 2011, 12:47 pmand for your info, my 1.0 to 30% increase? I GOT THE SURAT KAWAL SELIA, PG10, B2, AND ENDORSEMENT MYSELF. No, f***ing, hassle


Added on July 14, 2011, 12:48 pmmaybe you should put some 'E' oil in that puny half kilo brain of yours and see if it loosens and lubricates sense out If cannot then I'll offer you a one time solution, pour a bottle of Ceratec to seal up all the imperfections, and to seal off all the holes so that no more useless sense can come out from that puny brain of yours. you want?


Added on July 14, 2011, 12:51 pmOn top of that, I'd ,make sure the brain is all wired up with a set of Qmax ground cables so that it shorts itself further as a self destruct method. I'd also pour a bottle of Lambda Primer to flush out all the sense.

Then you'll need a voltmeter from Drift Performance to monitor the level of your stupidity in voltage. If you're overheating, if my Peregrine Coolant cant help in cooling the puny brains down, you should shut your brains out with some Autofoam.

No tools to do all that? I sell 122bit toolboxes as well.


LOL


Added on July 14, 2011, 12:52 pmthe threebond's reputation is too good to be used on that head of yours. Sorry

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post Jul 14 2011, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 14 2011, 12:46 PM)
memang simple wad. If fail just upgrade or put a damn booster or service the brakes and skim the damn disc, or else just put a freaking twin pot behind la. Whats the hassle?

Never I have mentioned that a WIRA 1.5 can go to a 2.0. Go do a search and highlight/bold if you can find it. 1.3 to 1.8 isnt a problem. I already said numerous times that it's impossible to endorse a 2.0 in a wira as per jpj portal website.

are you dumb or blind or what?


Added on July 14, 2011, 12:47 pmand for your info, my 1.0 to 30% increase? I GOT THE SURAT KAWAL SELIA, PG10, B2, AND ENDORSEMENT MYSELF. No, f***ing, hassle
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no f***ing hassle when u apply for surat kawal selia and PG10?
+ single port or twin port.servo check.steering not steer left and right during emergency brake is not and hassle..
for ur case is a luck man..

im saying about wira 1.5 - evo after that u reply wira ?

after that u just check at the website.. oh already know :

I havent been to the portal lately. Was it stated that proton 1.3 cant go to 1.8 already? (means that 25% endorsed cannot anymore)

okla..

no need to fight anymore.. im sorry if i bring any havoc.. maybe some misunderstanding.

conclusion :
1) charade espri - detomaso can be done 100% but many thing to do and recheck
2) proton cannot endorsed more than 25%
3) i heard on more thing from my friend , who failed endorsed GTI - EVO , before this can endorsed... Putra,Satria,Wira 1.8 also cannot used EVO engine... - please double check.. maybe joefbi aka rocketier can double check.


Added on July 14, 2011, 1:01 pmmaybe u want torco additives on ur brain.. or some cap ayam greese.. better used tongue and lick it.

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post Jul 14 2011, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 14 2011, 12:59 PM)
no f***ing hassle when u apply for surat kawal selia and PG10?
+ single port or twin port.servo check.steering not steer left and right during emergency brake is not and hassle..
for ur case is a luck man..

im saying about wira 1.5 - evo after that u reply wira ?

after that u just check at the website.. oh already know :

I havent been to the portal lately. Was it stated that proton 1.3 cant go to 1.8 already? (means that 25% endorsed cannot anymore)

okla..

no need to fight anymore.. im sorry if i bring any havoc.. maybe some misunderstanding.

conclusion :
1) charade espri - detomaso can be done 100% but many thing to do and recheck
2) proton cannot endorsed more than 25%
3) i heard on more thing from my friend , who failed endorsed GTI - EVO , before this can endorsed... Putra,Satria,Wira 1.8 also cannot used EVO engine... - please double check.. maybe joefbi aka rocketier can double check.
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No hassle if you get the brakes set-up right, no? The steering left and right during emergency braking siatuation is avoidable if your brakes is working fine.


As for your conclusion :
1) Correct
2) You're being dumb again. Is a 1.3 to a 1.8gsr not more than 25%? Are you still blind? I never talked about an evo beforehand as I know it with my eyes closed that you cant endorse an evo in a 1.5wira. Someone was telling me that a 1.3 cant go up to a 1.8 and I didnt believe so as I never knew the existence of this rule. And i double checked at the portal and viola! 1.3 to 1.8proton no issues. So yes, you're dumb and blind.
3)Of course cannot wad. You were the one dumb enough saying that it can be done, and then saying cannot. You were contradicting yourself. dont have to ask for confirmation. It's just like asking the person next to you "is it raining?" when you're all wet under the current rain.


Added on July 14, 2011, 1:11 pm
QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 13 2011, 05:00 PM)
putting an evo in a wira cant endorse is definitely not bullshit because it's written in black and white on the JPJ site that its not allowed to do so. It is also written that you can go beyond 30% for endorsement on non proton wira/satria/waja cars. Again, people saying not being able to do so is pure bullshit. I would appreciate if someone actually tried and failed and come tell me in the face. lol

Conclusion? They just listen to rubbish people telling rubbish stories before going to te jpj portal and read themselves
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Added on July 14, 2011, 1:13 pmTony Tang doesnt sell torco additives for brains you prick


Added on July 14, 2011, 1:18 pmlol, you're seriously dumb about saying a proton cannot go more than 25%. Already stated black and white that it's possible I wonder how to people endorse their 1.3chassis to a 1.8gsr these days? LOL. And yes, this rule is exceptional for protons(excluding perdana) upgrading to Evo engine, which is not applicable at all circumstances.

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post Jul 14 2011, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 14 2011, 01:05 PM)
No hassle if you get the brakes set-up right, no? The steering left and right during emergency braking siatuation is avoidable if your brakes is working fine.
As for your conclusion :
1) Correct
2) You're being dumb again. Is a 1.3 to a 1.8gsr not more than 25%? Are you still blind? I never talked about an evo beforehand as I know it with my eyes closed that you cant endorse an evo in a 1.5wira. Someone was telling me that a 1.3 cant go up to a 1.8 and I didnt believe so as I never knew the existence of this rule. And i double checked at the portal and viola! 1.3 to 1.8proton no issues. So yes, you're dumb and blind.
3)Of course cannot wad. You were the one dumb enough saying that it can be done, and then saying cannot. You were contradicting yourself. dont have to ask for confirmation. It's just like asking the person next to you "is it raining?" when you're all wet under the current rain.


Added on July 14, 2011, 1:11 pm


Added on July 14, 2011, 1:13 pmTony Tang doesnt sell torco additives for brains you prick


Added on July 14, 2011, 1:18 pmlol, you're seriously dumb about saying a proton cannot go more than 25%. Already stated black and white that it's possible I wonder how to people endorse their 1.3chassis to a 1.8gsr these days? LOL. And yes, this rule is exceptional for protons(excluding perdana) upgrading to Evo engine, which is not applicable at all circumstances.
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thats is the problem.. before this proton 1.3 can go up to 1.8 but need to exactly like what charade espri do when want to endorsed to 1.6! before this... u should go to JPJ.. maybe u already long time not going there that is y u not up to date.. fyi.. a long long time ago.. 1.3 also can go to 2.0...

u used why statement back as below: haha funny..
when im saying for satria GTI 1.8 cannot endorsed EVO u said can right? u just follow my flow man!

What i am saying.. u are not up to date.. RNR for JPJ already strict!
cannot rasuah somemore.. have CCTV during inspection!
before this apply surat need to go to putrajaya.. right now no need anymore.. u endorsed detomaso what year? maybe a long2 time ago because u go to putrajaya to apply..



ok la better i dont reply here.. because waste of my time ! and i dont want getting banned!
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QUOTE(gagak_84 @ Jul 14 2011, 01:37 PM)
thats is the problem.. before this proton 1.3 can go up to 1.8 but need to exactly like what charade espri do when want to endorsed to 1.6! before this... u should go to JPJ.. maybe u already long time not going there that is y u not up to date.. fyi.. a long long time ago.. 1.3 also can go to 2.0...

u used why statement back as below: haha funny..
when im saying for satria GTI 1.8 cannot endorsed EVO u said can right? u just follow my flow man!

What i am saying.. u are not up to date.. RNR for JPJ already strict!
cannot rasuah somemore.. have CCTV during inspection!
before this apply surat need to go to putrajaya.. right now no need anymore.. u endorsed detomaso what year? maybe a long2 time ago because u go to putrajaya to apply..
ok la better i dont reply here.. because waste of my time ! and i dont want getting banned!
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lol. you're going around in circles again. So before this proton 1.3 can go up to 1.8, why now cannot? LOL

I reposted my statement because you were too blind to go back up and read.

And when you said satria GTI cannot endorse to Evo, did i say can? Please scroll up and read, and PASTE TO ME IF I DID. Don't you put f***ing words in my mouth.

I think I also stated CLEARLY that you no longer need to go to putrajaya to get the approval letter you cockhead.

Yes, keep your mouth shut before you start to mislead others


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:28 pm
QUOTE(ThunderGod_Cid @ Jul 13 2011, 06:02 PM)
I havent been to the portal lately. Was it stated that proton 1.3 cant go to 1.8 already? sad.gif


Added on July 13, 2011, 6:09 pmjust checked. didnt state so smile.gif.
btw,
if 25% - 29% you do not need PG10. Only if above 30% u need. If 25% - 29% u need surat kelulusan aka kawal selia. There is also no longer a need to go all the way to Putrajaya to get this anymore
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Since you were too blind to see or too lazy of an a55 to scroll up, I re-quote my statement and BOLD it up.


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:30 pmand no, I'm not stupid nor oblivious. Don't tell me things I already know and twist and turn facts around trying to put wrong information in other people's minds


Added on July 14, 2011, 2:37 pmmany, many, many times you tried to put words in my mouth. And when I ask you to prove it to the readers here that I said whatever you put in my mouth by quoting and bolding the words, you just can't seem to do so.

Now get the hell out of here before you mislead people further.
0w30 thinner than 10w30 in malaysia... balls

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Woah, take it easy bros. Dont need to be too heated up discussing thumbup.gif
I appreciate every single advice and feedback you guys have input so far.
Btw, Thunder, how much does it cost you and how long to change from the stock 1.0 engine to a dematoso 1.6 engine?

What about a starlet engine? which is better for long run? Cause a mechanic here told me that Daihatsu parts are hard to come by, and toyota are easier.

Thanks again.

Cheers bros! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif biggrin.gif
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im using the 4e. As for the deto in the long run u get better maintenance(only that parts are hard to find) and also its good for top speed as it's a bigger displacement, n/a.

As for the 4e, it'll cost quite abit more and you have to find the right people to do it. Over the next 1-2years you'll face minor problems like wiring issues, noises here n there.. but it may be all worth it for the power.

1.0 - 1.6deto duration about 1week
1.0 - 1.3 4e prolly 2weeks-1month depends

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Wat a hot topic here hahahahaha....

Thats why im willing to spend 20k on my Waja mod rather than converting to something else which dosent fit 100%

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