QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 25 2011, 03:01 AM)
The 159 2.2 only have 184bhp and 230Nm of torque.. after boosted we can easily tapau him once the boost kicks in.. XD.. Persona more to family car i guess.. Rather than the Gen2 and Neo where youngsters all driving it and they always have the need for speed.
U also..
maybe after boost kick in still same speed unless going for higher boost. i asked b4. he said turbo is not necessary about power. for the low torque car with lag like campro if low boost say 0.3can help to get even better fc than normal one. he told me when i asked about the fc increase. hahahaha~~he also said that i will be able to maintain the same fc with increase in power.
i holiday lor. so no sleep. going for part time job 2moro edi.
QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 25 2011, 08:46 AM)
Zen already mentioned Sylphy performing at maximum band (meaning at it raise it speed, it will push the torque to the maximum allowable for that speed without over revving to save FC. Thats one of the main reason its famous for FC saving and infamous for feeling no power.
Its not the lack of power, its the lack of feel of staying in low end of a gear ratio and push the car to max for that range of ratio...means more power but staying at lower end for power while car increasing speed, will sure makan more minyak than if the gear ratio follows upward with the speed (less power ala CVT). Thats auto for you.
Max band at all range, thats CVT at work....the difference, although cannot feel power especially when increasing speed comparing with auto tranny, as you go higher and higher and higher, you realise one thing, power keep increasing as if it just don't run out of breath. Thats the reason I mentioned before I might lose out from start to cars like VIOS and NHC but when you hit 130, 140, 150, 160, those newers cars, you will feel its starting to take toll and breathing hard, for CVT drive, it keeps increasing like its not even breathing hard, and keep increasing upwards.
Try the CVTs of Audi or at the least, try the high speed drive of Lancer. You will realise at high speed increment, powers keep on coming non-stop as if there is no limit until it hit the top speed....(engine still limit mah...)
btw...CVT tranny sounds so mystical that some might be wondering, how it maintain hundred of ratios, if you've seen the inner part of CVT gear box, you will understand why. There's a metal belt links like caterpillar with all the legs and side and there is a clamp that clamp the link, as gear ratio changes, the clamp to move to next link, and next continuously at high speed. Thus feeling of no gear changes when in fact, its tens of changes vs each gear changes at auto tranny, so no pulling back feel (no rev feel lor)...maintain optimal torque at each band/speed/gear ratio thus no wasted fuel...
hmm...nice one.
QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Jul 25 2011, 09:35 AM)
how about inspira?inspira oso use CVT lo..for me,the CVT was lack in pick up..and for the high speed,the speed increase quite fast lo
Added on July 25, 2011, 9:36 amour auto transmission cant tahan it if our car HP is 210hp above..asked b4 ady..but stage 1 enough for us ady..170ho is more than enough lo
oh...the auto cannot tahan ahh...so if really wan to go for stage2 need to change trans??
hmm...stage 1 is good enough for now being. when u get used to the power, u will want more.
QUOTE(khtee @ Jul 25 2011, 09:26 AM)
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i wonder after warantty period.. can i ask proton to change my AT to CVT haha really like the idea how CVT works..haha
btw i think proton is using punch powertrain cvt... so not too sure whether is this CVT comparable to those in audi....honda or even mitsubishi
take a look at this document by punch powertrain
http://www.punchpowertrain.com/files/Docs/...VT2_CVT2010.pdf look at page 15 ..hehe
i imagined the price will be expensive.
QUOTE(tkyong1 @ Jul 25 2011, 10:24 AM)
hi guys,
Bought my persona SE in Mar 2009.
Now, 2 years 3 months, 48000 km, got extended warranty by Proton to 5 years / 175,000 km.
Keep perfect service record, every 5,000 km at Proton SC.
Incident:
21 July 2011:
while driving on NKVE, my SE suddenly losing power, shaking badly, park at road side, tried start, engine die off immediately after start with rattling sound in engine bay.
what made me very angry was, i called Proton i-care, the line was not available, it keeps saying the number that i dail was not available. End up called Proton SC at SS14, they arrange tow truck immediately. Proton i-care...listen carefully..you suck...when i need you, you were not there...useless.
call tow car, sent to Proton SC at SS14. Service Manager checked, found:-
- no compression in cylinder #1;
- open engine found one of the valve was broken;
- need to replace the whole cylinder head;
- if "bayar sendiri" cost = RM4k - 5k;
- of course claim extended warranty lah...still waiting for approval......
My View:
this is the first time, driving numerous cars for the past 20 years, encountered such serious problem, broken valve, got to replace the cylinder head. The most sad thing is this is a brand new car. I keep perfect service records, no one notice the problem in every service, i wonder why?
any of you have the similar problem?
i am concern after repairing will have continuous problems...really headache....losing confident on my persona already...
so one of ur piston got problem lor. seriously i will say this. normally this things wont just spoil like that. i assume that there will be symptoms. the problem lies at whether ur mechanic at the SC identified it for you. My SC always checked for the piston, piston ring and other. this is bcoz i am always late for my service for minimum 2k. Still they checked it for me. because it is common that a car breaks down. even mercedes burnt down on the highway. i saw one. new c-class somemore. and that person is standing metres away looking at the fire eating his car up. btw besides this u have any other problem with ur car?? dun lose confident lah. persona still nice to drive mah.
Jul 25 2011, 02:55 AM
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Why so long have to take 2 weeks to get number?
hehe...just kidding only... 
True.. That's why.. Save the money, put it aside first if u really wanna mod.. Don't go gatal gatal see the stuffs n poison urself..
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