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TSJacky988
post Jul 9 2011, 09:52 PM, updated 15y ago

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I am interested in getting a property in TTDI Alam Impian for own stay for at least 5 years.

Recently TTDI launched Aquina phase with the following range:
Intermediate terrace: RM650k to RM750k
Corner: RM1m to RM1.5m (4k+ BU)

They will launch semi-D in Aug/Sep, I heard the price range might start from RM1.3m for semi-D. If I compare a corner unit worth RM1.1m, how will the potential capital appreciation fare against the semi-D in 5 years time, with the following guess:
Corner: RM1.1m, 4000sqft, 3500 build up
Semi-D: RM1.5m, 5000sqft, 4000 build up (just guesstimate)




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post Jul 9 2011, 10:00 PM

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Hi Bro,

From my experience conner lot normally appreciates best, fastest & easiest to sell since there is a lot of mid-class people, but I did a recent q & a with a few of my friends and most of us believe that the property bubble is about to burst. Most of us target Q4 2012 or early 2013. If you are planning to purchase to stay then it should be no problem, but investment... I suggest you seek a relative or a good friend that works in the property line and ask about their estimate on when would be the bubble burst for property.
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post Jul 9 2011, 10:05 PM

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semi-d should the price psf doesnt exceed 20% over its dsl corner counterpart........ wink.gif

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post Jul 9 2011, 10:10 PM

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Pai, psf of land area or psf of build up?

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post Jul 9 2011, 11:21 PM

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Go for Semi-D!!!
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post Jul 9 2011, 11:30 PM

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I have sold these two types of property before, so I can comment a little:

Semi-D:
-tend to appreciate faster generally
-usually able to match valuation price
-some ppl have perception semi-d is higher class than corner despite smaller land size (And your neighbourhood is semi-D
-smaller empty land size then corner usually, unless you are getting semi-d corner with extra big land.

Corner:
-very rare usually, so people upgrading from same taman intermediate to corner usually don't mind paying crazy price (100k above valuation in my experience)
- Some ppl like to buy corner due to it';s cheaper price, tear down the whole house and build whatever they want, so the demand is there as well.
- Some ppl just like corner, to get complete sunlight from one side (fengshui thing)
- usually larger land size for bigger scale of gardening. some people like it.

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post Jul 10 2011, 07:31 AM

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This is in the same township, will the Semi-D appreciation also bring up the price of corner/terrace there?
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post Jul 10 2011, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(klangboy83 @ Jul 10 2011, 07:31 AM)
This is in the same township, will the Semi-D appreciation also bring up the price of corner/terrace there?
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Yes in someway... ppl tend to set the asking price somewhat proportionate to the market price of the area based on psf pricing.
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post Jul 10 2011, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Jacky988 @ Jul 9 2011, 10:10 PM)
Pai, psf of land area or psf of build up?
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psf of land area.... smile.gif

No hard n fast rules on this..... if it makes sense to u then can apply.....else just buy whatever u like n can afford if its own stay......
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post Jul 10 2011, 04:43 PM

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Depending on the land size. Is the corner larger than a typical semi-D?

Many ppl (especially chinese) would prefer corner with larger land, due to cheaper assessment & quit rent. Also, the extra land can cater to those who like massive renovation.

The above 2 types, are the potential buyer who would pay huge premium over market price to secure a corner unit.

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post Jul 10 2011, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(surf-it @ Jul 9 2011, 11:30 PM)
Semi-D:
-tend to appreciate faster generally
-usually able to match valuation price
-some ppl have perception semi-d is higher class than corner despite smaller land size (And your neighbourhood is semi-D
-smaller empty land size then corner usually, unless you are getting semi-d corner with extra big land.

agree.
areas for smds are also lower in density in terms of units or households or inhabitants per acre.
that is actually where much of the value is derived from, imo.
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post Jul 11 2011, 01:54 PM

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Most people prefer to stay in semi-d, that's why semi-d can appreciate faster than terrace or corners...

So conclusion, always buy semi-d instead of corner if can afford semi-d?

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post Jul 12 2011, 12:03 AM

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semi-D goes up faster.
subsale or under-con wise.
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post Jul 12 2011, 12:01 PM

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Does that mean bungalow will go up faster then semi-d?
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post Jul 13 2011, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(ebayer @ Jul 12 2011, 12:01 PM)
Does that mean bungalow will go up faster then semi-d?
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Don't think so... historically majority of bungalow doesn't seems to appreciate faster than semi-d mainly because bungalow buyers' market is relatively niche compared to others and typical bungalow buyer are for own stay hence less being transacted.
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post Jul 13 2011, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(ebayer @ Jul 12 2011, 12:01 PM)
Does that mean bungalow will go up faster then semi-d?
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Normally its a tandem movement smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 07:20 PM

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semi d versus corner, i bet on semi d.
semi d versus bungalow in same vicinity, i also bet on semi d.
intermediate versus corner, bet on corner.
intermediate versus end lot, bet on end lot.
end lot versus corner, tough bet. don't bet at all. smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 13 2011, 07:20 PM)
semi d versus corner, i bet on semi d.
semi d versus bungalow in same vicinity, i also bet on semi d.
intermediate versus corner, bet on corner.
intermediate versus end lot, bet on end lot.
end lot versus corner, tough bet. don't bet at all. smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 13 2011, 07:20 PM)
semi d versus corner, i bet on semi d.
semi d versus bungalow in same vicinity, i also bet on semi d.
intermediate versus corner, bet on corner.
intermediate versus end lot, bet on end lot.
end lot versus corner, tough bet. don't bet at all. smile.gif
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post Jul 13 2011, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Jul 13 2011, 07:20 PM)
semi d versus corner, i bet on semi d.
semi d versus bungalow in same vicinity, i also bet on semi d.
intermediate versus corner, bet on corner.
intermediate versus end lot, bet on end lot.
end lot versus corner, tough bet. don't bet at all. smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 10:08 AM

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But what is the premium one should pay psf of land for a bungalow compared to a semi-d?
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QUOTE(allin @ Jul 13 2011, 11:58 PM)
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In term of "Fong Sheu", semi-detached is better than corner. As for corner, no right or left "helper".
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post Jul 14 2011, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jul 14 2011, 10:09 AM)
In term of "Fong Sheu",  semi-detached is better than corner. As for corner, no right or left "helper".
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For own stay I will choose Semi D rather than corner terrace la if financially possible. Logically neighbourhood would be cleaner and less chap since assuming semi D owner more wealthy and educated. No offence here k. I am happing staying in terrace house though.
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post Jul 14 2011, 10:17 AM

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Semi d la
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post Jul 14 2011, 10:50 AM

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I always liked semi-D but can never afford ............. looks like destined to stay in apartments forever........... sad.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(Pai @ Jul 14 2011, 10:50 AM)
I always liked semi-D but can never afford ............. looks like destined to stay in apartments forever........... sad.gif
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Pai, u are millionaire already, bungalow also can affort! smile.gif
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post Jul 14 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jul 14 2011, 11:32 AM)
Pai, u are millionaire already, bungalow also can affort! smile.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 02:52 AM

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QUOTE(Jacky988 @ Jul 9 2011, 09:52 PM)
I am interested in getting a property in TTDI Alam Impian for own stay for at least 5 years.

Recently TTDI launched Aquina phase with the following range:
   Intermediate terrace: RM650k to RM750k
   Corner: RM1m to RM1.5m (4k+ BU)

They will launch semi-D in Aug/Sep, I heard the price range might start from RM1.3m for semi-D. If I compare a corner unit worth RM1.1m, how will the potential capital appreciation fare against the semi-D in 5 years time, with the following guess:
   Corner: RM1.1m, 4000sqft, 3500 build up
   Semi-D: RM1.5m, 5000sqft, 4000 build up (just guesstimate)
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Based on the above scenario, Semi-D is better..
if however the Semi-D is a standard 40'x80' land size (price let say RM1.35 mil), then I pick the corner with bigger land smile.gif

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post Jul 15 2011, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Jul 15 2011, 02:52 AM)
Based on the above scenario, Semi-D is better..
if however the Semi-D is a standard 40'x80' land size (price let say RM1.35 mil), then I pick the corner with bigger land  smile.gif
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I will sacrifice bigger land and go for Semi-D(though the land is smaller).
Semi-D gives an impression that the property is of "higher class" than Corner.
In another angle, if u look from front view, Semi-D gives a better look, Corner look like a long house and look "not balance" in nature.

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jul 15 2011, 08:04 AM)
I will sacrifice  bigger land and go for Semi-D(though the land is smaller).
Semi-D gives an impression that the property is of "higher class" than Corner.
In another angle, if u look from front view, Semi-D gives a better look, Corner look like a long house and look "not balance" in nature.
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I agree as well. The word 'Semi-D' already sounds higher class. Example will be the cluster semi-d's @ Setia Alam, land size 30X70, Built Up only 1700++ with extra 10 ft land on one side. My current 22*75 BU 1599, the cluster semi-d last transacted RM 650k. smile.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jul 15 2011, 08:04 AM)
I will sacrifice  bigger land and go for Semi-D(though the land is smaller).
Semi-D gives an impression that the property is of "higher class" than Corner.
In another angle, if u look from front view, Semi-D gives a better look, Corner look like a long house and look "not balance" in nature.
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Corner lots in TTDI AI are quite different from corner lots in other housing.. Their designs and BU are quite different, much much larger than equivalent intermediate units. That's why TS got confused with what to choose..smile.gif

The exclusiveness and elitism associated with semi-D are quite tempting for people but the question in here is that will you be willing to pay 20-30% more for that if everything else seems to be the same?
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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jul 14 2011, 11:32 AM)
Pai, u are millionaire already, bungalow also can affort! smile.gif
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eh how u know Im millionaire leh? hmm.gif

no lah am a small ciku only.......currently stay in a small 2 bedroom apartment only.......... really no money to upgrade to even DS.....let alone semi-D or bungalow.....

 

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