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post Jul 30 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jul 30 2011, 11:27 PM)
not sad meh?... i am in a 5 room hdb and i feel lonely at times... all alone  cry.gif
I said no housemates. Never said I don't have visitors staying over whom I do not collect rental from. It's a bachelor pad.

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post Jul 30 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Jul 30 2011, 11:33 PM)
female visitors?
I like people who help me clean up, not make it messier. That should answer your question tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Jul 30 2011, 11:44 PM)
why don't you buy a studio or 2BR? it's cheaper to pay the maintenance too.
I'll buy when I'm ready. I can wait.

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So are you introvert person?
Why am I introverted? I just don't like living with strangers. I have no need to.

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How if your neighbour play music loud?
He can do whatever he wants as long as it's within the law.

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Jul 31 2011, 12:55 AM)
I will share with beautiful single lady if I were you haha

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 02:45 PM)
Just checking, some of my friends have landlords in SG that
a) Don't let guests stay over
b) Girls only (no boys allowed)

Are such practices normal? I personally will want to be able to accommodate my friends / gf when they come over, so.. just wondering, other than asking up front and hoping they keep their promises, how do we get the house rules established / fixed so the houseowners dont simply change the terms.
Most landlords have this rule if they are also living in the house. Especially if their family is also staying there.

IMHO, it's understandable. If I were the landlord, I wouldn't want to have strangers (ie. non-tenants or best case, non-regular visitors) having a free run of my house, using my stuff, contaminating my fridge, washing machine, utensils etc. One week, it's this friend. Next week, it's that friend... for instance. And if something is broken or stolen/lost, who's going to blame whom?

I rented 3 rooms in one year when I was in college. 2 out of 3 were okay with me bringing back a gf and she stays over, but had to make sure she doesn't walk around in the middle of the night in her underwear or something (or nothing) etc. All were okay to have my parents stay a night or two if they visited. But none would let me bring back friends to hangout, definitely not overnight.

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 03:28 PM)
Yeah that does put things into perspective. I guess the best way to avoid the whole complication is to get an entire unit to yourself, eh?
Exactly. Some things are worth the 1K or so difference. Quality of life is so much better.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 04:08 PM)
THAT SAID, we're paying for a room there should be a certain degree of rights to which we are entitled, and singaporeans are undertaking to rent out (along with it, they should be aware of all the risks that comes attached with it), and yet wanting to retain control, that sounds to me like "wanting to eat the cake, and keep it too".
Mind you, renting a room doesn't mean that the landlord is 'handing over possession' of one of the rooms in their flat over to the tenant. It's more like the tenant is a boarder, to use the traditional English term. The law still deems the landlord as having full possession of the entire flat, indeed the law does not recognise sub-letting as a transfer of possession at all. The landlord is still accountable for everything that goes on under his roof, from breeding aedes mosquitos to the unlawful possession of contrabrand and the use of the room for prostitution.

IMHO, a room renter is entitled to board in the landlord's house (and have a reasonable amount of privacy), but is not entitled to treat the house (and therefore the room) as his own.

When you rent a unit however, there is a legal handover of possession (usually the keys), and from the point on, the tenant gains legal possession of the premises.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 04:34 PM)
Oh wow, I learned something today.
I wasn't aware there was a distinction between the rights of someone who rent an entire unit, and someone who rents a room. (I assumed the standard rights to be the same, regardless of the size and quantum of the property, unless specifically negotiated)
When you buy a seat on a plane, the captain still has the right to throw you off the flight or restrain you, no? Even if you misbehave in your seat only.

Or what's the difference between taking a taxi and renting a car?

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 04:54 PM)
Personally I'm under the impression that law should be scale-able, and there should not be a distinction between leasing a unit, and leasing a room. The landlord may want to disallow things when leasing a room, but it must be agreed upfront as a form of 'restrictive term'.
I reckon it's all about legal possession.

If you have legal possession of the premises, you can give or restrict access to those premises as you so desire.

Following that, my opinion is that you cannot gain possession (in its complete sense) of a room within a flat. IIRC, in cases of duplexes (ie. two separate living spaces within a single condo), the concept of whether possession of one living space within a larger unit is achievable, was based on whether entry/exit to the primary living areas were separated.

Lastly, if it's established that you cannot have legal possession of a room within a unit, then IMHO it's the room renter who should specifically INCLUDE into the room tenancy contract - those types of rights which are similar to those of someone who has legal possession of a unit. It should not be the other way around ie. assumed that those rights are already native to the room renter and only excluded if stated in the room tenancy contract.

So I reckon there's no need for the landlord to restrict rights which a room renter does not have. It's the room renter who has to seek to include additional rights into the tenancy agreement.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 05:31 PM)
Hmm, seems a bit draconian doesn't it!
Common law originated from Britain, where kings and lords owned all the land and their subjects lived on those lands as their property.
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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Aug 1 2011, 05:44 PM)
Hahaha, I figured Singapore has since moved out of the feudal ages (legally), but I guess not! XD
Singapore is practically a nation of home owners / (potential) landlords.


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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Aug 1 2011, 05:54 PM)
Think about it...a person who's income is SGD3k per month....is he/she gonna fork out 50% of his/her monthly income on it?
Everyone needs motivation, right?


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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Aug 1 2011, 05:59 PM)
Brought gf home but now u are still single? Are you th3 problem or your ex gf?
Maybe I want to continue bringing gfs home. Having a wife will sort of stop all that, isn't it?

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QUOTE(Materazzi @ Aug 1 2011, 07:07 PM)
Haha are you playboy? Btw, sean you told you have property in sg . Why do you still rent? You prefer malay or sg galz? Sg gal is difficult to approach if don't have money?
Enough with the 20 questions lah.

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QUOTE(rickysim84 @ Aug 1 2011, 09:00 PM)
Guys, how u feel on working in a company full of policies? Which mean u cannot do this, u cannot do that?

Recently i read bout big fish in small pond, and small fish in big pond. What if the small fish is in a big pond and only allowed to swim straight? Is this kinda company hard to work for?
I love a company with lots of policies because I'm generally someone who thrives when there are a lot of rules and procedures. Once you learn the system, you are also able to game it because every reaction to your actions becomes predictable. It's like playing a huge Koei's Romance of Three Kingdoms game and you control the outcomes because you know how to manipulate the programming logic.

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Aug 1 2011, 10:02 PM)
for me instead of % rather i go with the market rate for something acceptable to me... of course cannot be 100% of my pay
Doesn't matter if it's a percentage or fixed amount. As long as you budget and stick to it.
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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Aug 2 2011, 01:14 PM)
depend on which part of Malaysia, if KL i agree
if my hometown Ipoh , then is alrite..
I was able to live quite well in KL with a budget of 7K. Rented a 2 story terrace in Kelana Jaya, drove 2 cars (a 6km/L super petrol guzzling Proton Putra and a backup Datsun 120Y), ate pretty well, but due to the currency - probably had to think a bit longer to buy stuff like playstations, laptops and mobile phones etc.

Didn't feel like I was "damn suffer".

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QUOTE(ivanswk @ Aug 2 2011, 01:54 PM)
yes i also live comfortably, before i meet a KL gal who demand everyday fine dining, and collegues who like to go clubbing.  But the killer was when the mortgage kick in.

ipoh gal is just less demanding .. especially the chinese ed one
Aiya, that has nothing to do with the town. It's about you and the wife/gf you choose. If you like the type who contribute problems but don't contribute income, then you deal with it lor.

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 2 2011, 02:15 PM)
Not really, gals from small towns are less demanding than gals from Cities. Last time, when i was a fresh graduate that time, i worked near to Bukit Selambau and Kuala Ketil, small kampung where you see the kampung gals all wear simple simple, and they all have a simple ordinary life, but sekali i transferred back to KL, start seeing all the party gals, clubbing gals, branded-mind gals.... rclxub.gif
Up to you lor if you choose to lump everything into "due to being in KL".
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To follow up on my earlier question on paying income tax with GIRO, just received my GIRO instalment schedule from my company's payroll dept. I set up the GIRO payment using internet banking on Jul 19, and the schedule from IRAS is dated Jul 22. That's pretty fast, only 3 days to respond. However, my company's payroll people sat on it for 2 weeks!

Anyway, IRAS split up the amount into 8 instalments from Sept11 to Apr12. Something about full payment for each prior year must be made by April.
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Someone was looking for GIRO branch codes earlier. Just remembered I had bookmarked this page previously:

http://www.hsbc.com.sg/1/2/miscellaneous/p...anch-codes#bank
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Did anyone see the 8TV Ramadan PSA (Public Service Announcements) that created a firestorm online?

https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/8tvfb

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