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tailtwist
post Aug 3 2011, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Aug 3 2011, 05:43 PM)
Did anyone see the 8TV Ramadan PSA (Public Service Announcements) that created a firestorm online?

https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/8tvfb
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yes...but the actual PSA advert has been brought down from youtube already!!
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post Aug 3 2011, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Aug 3 2011, 05:45 PM)
yes...but the actual PSA advert has been brought down from youtube already!!
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http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=...660130&comments
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Aug 3 2011, 06:06 PM)
yeah...lol
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QUOTE(seantang @ Aug 3 2011, 05:43 PM)
Did anyone see the 8TV Ramadan PSA (Public Service Announcements) that created a firestorm online?

https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/8tvfb
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Bunch of racist, if this ad is created and aired in SG...

Bye-bye, 100% kena ISA in Changi Prison.
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post Aug 3 2011, 06:25 PM

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i wonder who is the chinese Gal in the advert ?
We are famous, even BBC also carry the article. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14385624

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post Aug 3 2011, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Aug 3 2011, 05:36 PM)
Later can get refund if subsequent year still working in singapore.
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Seriously? How many % and when?
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:14 PM

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Any idea if I want to apply for PR but do not want to contribute CPF?
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Aug 3 2011, 08:14 PM)
Any idea if I want to apply for PR but do not want to contribute CPF?
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NOT POSSIBLE
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Aug 3 2011, 08:14 PM)
Any idea if I want to apply for PR but do not want to contribute CPF?
You don't have to contribute anything when you apply. But once its approved, you have to contribute.
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(MPIK @ Aug 3 2011, 08:14 PM)
Any idea if I want to apply for PR but do not want to contribute CPF?
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do note also that if u do apply for PR...and your PR is given..BUT if you don't go to ICA to become a Singapore PR..mind u there's a window of period from the date of approval letter....u might not have a good time here anymore
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:31 PM

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Guys, my story may seems long, but pls read. I really need advice

my case:
end of June - Got the job offer at end of June. Ask for offer letter, the HR just send me a notification in email, like the salary, and other terms. Asked for an official formal offer letter again, but no update. Wondering WTH so difficult to come out with offer letter for me?!

11/7 - the HR finally helped me to apply for TEP.

12/7 - immediately saw the application rejected. Emailed the HR, no reply. Called her (the HR in charge of my case is a malay lady, with title senior HR executive), no one pick up call.

14/7 - HR lady called me back, said MOM told that should submit my SPM cert and university internship placement verification letter together with appeal. Emailed the documents for HR and wait for her to help me appeal.

18/ 7 - HR emailed me and said she has helped me to appeal and waiting for MOM approval.

29/7 - Two weeks passed and no news, emailed HR to ask for update. HR replied me, said my TEP application is rejected. Reason is a common one :"The reason – The prospective employee does not meet their criteria for approval.".She said will call MOM on monday to ask for info. But the weird side is, I checked the application status on MOM EPonline website, the application status still remained at 11/7, which is my first application. It seems that my appeal on 18/7 has no status update yet. So weird.

1/8 - on 29/7, HR said will call MOM and let me know the update. But no update from HR is received.

3/8 - Called the HR many times, managed to get the the HR at the end. The HR said, "can you go and apply the permit yourself?" I said no, I cant. I am in KL. Then I asked, the EPonline website, i checked and the status still remained at 11/7, not 18/7 of appeal. I asked whether she miss-looked the date and told me rejected as the previous first application. But she said confirmed is rejected. Cz she can see 18/7 is rejected. Again, very weird why I cant see the 18/7 status on EPonline. She somemore told me that has been calling MOM for the pass few days but cant get to them, so duno the reason why my appeal is rejected. Then she said will help me to call again and HOPEFULLY can update me by this week.

Is there problem with the hr personnel or is that I have been thinking too much?

WT*!!! I am frustrated. Do you guys think that the HR did not help me to appeal at all? Cz it is not convincing that
1) she said she can see that 18/7 appeal is rejected while I cant see the status in EPOnline.
2) she said called but cant get to the MOM, so cant ask why my appeal is rejected.

I am thinking of calling up the company receptionist, and ask to transfer line to HR MANAGER and complain everything to the manager? Or call to the hiring manager and ask for help from hiring manager? Or call the HR and scold her all over again?
Which method is more rational to do and is probably helpful in my case?

And Guys, the company is not a small chinaman nor SME company. It is an international company, wit office and subsidiaries all over 40 countries in the world, with headquarter at Germany.

So I am wondering what should I do next?
Should I call up and look for the HR manager and tell everything and ask for attention?


This post has been edited by venicelim: Aug 3 2011, 08:40 PM
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 3 2011, 08:31 PM)
Guys, my story may seems long, but pls read. I really need advice

my case:
end of June - Got the job offer at end of June. Ask for offer letter, the HR just send me a notification in email, like the salary, and other terms. Asked for an official formal offer letter again, but no update. Wondering WTH so difficult to come out with offer letter for me?!

11/7 - the HR finally helped me to apply for TEP.

12/7 - immediately saw the application rejected. Emailed the HR, no reply. Called her (the HR in charge of my case is a malay lady, with title senior HR executive), no one pick up call.

14/7 - HR lady called me back, said MOM told that should submit my SPM cert and university internship placement verification letter together with appeal. Emailed the documents for HR and wait for her to help me appeal.

18/ 7 - HR emailed me and said she has helped me to appeal and waiting for MOM approval.

29/7 - Two weeks passed and no news, emailed HR to ask for update. HR replied me, said my TEP application is rejected. Reason is a common one :"The reason – The prospective employee does not meet their criteria for approval.".She said will call MOM on monday to ask for info.  But the weird side is, I checked the application status on MOM EPonline website, the application status still remained at 11/7, which is my first application. It seems that my appeal on 18/7 has no status update yet. So weird.

1/8 - on 29/7, HR said will call MOM and let me know the update. But no update from HR is received.

3/8 - Called the HR many times, managed to get the the HR at the end. The HR said, "can you go and apply the permit yourself?" I said no, I cant. I am in KL. Then I asked, the EPonline website, i checked and the status still remained at 11/7, not 18/7 of appeal. I asked whether she miss-looked the date and told me rejected as the previous first application. But she said confirmed is rejected. Cz she can see 18/7 is rejected. Again, very weird why I cant see the 18/7 status on EPonline. She somemore told me that has been calling MOM for the pass few days but cant get to them, so duno the reason why my appeal is rejected. Then she said will help me to call again and HOPEFULLY can update me by this week.

Is there problem with the hr personnel or is that I have been thinking too much?

WT*!!! I am frustrated. Do you guys think that the HR did not help me to appeal at all? Cz it is not convincing that
1) she said she can see that 18/7 appeal is rejected while I cant see the status in EPOnline.
2) she said called but cant get to the MOM, so cant ask why my appeal is rejected.

I am thinking of calling up the company receptionist, and ask to transfer line to HR MANAGER and complain everything to the manager? Or call to the hiring manager and ask for help from hiring manager? Or call the HR and scold her all over again?
Which method is more rational to do and is probably helpful in my case?

And Guys, the company is not a small chinaman nor SME company. It is an international company, wit office and subsidiaries all over 40 countries in the world, with headquarter at Germany.

So I am wondering what should I do next?
Should I call up and look for the HR manager and tell everything and ask for attention?
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Why don't you personally call up MOM and ask about its status again?I mean just to double confirm..because you said u can't see your status on the EPOnline...how hard can that be?

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post Aug 3 2011, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Aug 3 2011, 08:36 PM)
Why don't you personally call up MOM and ask about its status again?I mean just to double confirm..because you said u can't see your status on the EPOnline...how hard can that be?
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I tried to call MOM.
But the automated reply of press 1) bla bla bla, press 2) bla bla bla....
I dont know which is to get to officer to chat.
I did tried many selection and most of it asked for FIN number or employer whatever number like that.
I cant get to MOM to check.
Pls, if you know which option I should pressed in the automated telephone guide, pls enlighten me.
I have difficulties in that. icon_question.gif
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post Aug 3 2011, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 3 2011, 08:43 PM)
I tried to call MOM.
But the automated reply of press 1) bla bla bla, press 2) bla bla bla....
I dont know which is to get to officer to chat.
I did tried many selection and most of it asked for FIN number or employer whatever number like that.
I cant get to MOM to check.
Pls, if you know which option I should pressed in the automated telephone guide, pls enlighten me.
I have difficulties in that. icon_question.gif
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I forgot which number but am sure there is 1 number direct to the officer inquiries.(As I had tried it and get to talk with them~) Try listen carefully, enter the FIN number and choose the option to talk to the officer.
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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 3 2011, 08:31 PM)
So I am wondering what should I do next?
Call the hiring manager and speak to him/her directly. Ask for help, don't complain. If he really wants to hire you, he will push his HR dept and even call MOM directly. If he's not keen on hiring you, what's the point of you pushing from your side?

You could also call the HR manager but again, don't complain. Ask for help.

I hope I read wrongly that you have already scolded the HR lady. That's the wrong move. If you're not happy with her, talk to someone else. But if you scold her, you can be 100% sure that she will not pursue MOM (for you (if the hiring manager or HR manager are not pushing her). And if she complains about you to the managers, there's a 50/50 chance that they might dislike your behaviour (ie. the way you deal with difficulties) and change their minds about hiring you.

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Aug 2 2011, 08:23 PM)
a lot people here seems don't know about www.jobstreet.com or www.jobsdb.com

Am wondering is the recruitment website sucks in advertising or fellow forummer just used to being spoonfeed all their life.
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just wanna ask fellow malaysians regarding on the ease on looking for a job and any tips to share around.
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post Aug 3 2011, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Aug 3 2011, 08:59 PM)
Call the hiring manager and speak to him/her directly. Ask for help, don't complain. If he really wants to hire you, he will push his HR dept and even call MOM directly. If he's not keen on hiring you, what's the point of you pushing from your side?

You could also call the HR manager but again, don't complain. Ask for help.

I hope I read wrongly that you have already scolded the HR lady. That's the wrong move. If you're not happy with her, talk to someone else. But if you scold her, you can be 100% sure that she will not pursue MOM (for you (if the hiring manager or HR manager are not pushing her). And if she complains about you to the managers, there's a 50/50 chance that they might dislike your behaviour (ie. the way you deal with difficulties) and change their minds about hiring you.
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Nope. I didnt scold her.
Today in the phone call, i verified with her whether it is true or not that the appeal is rejected.
And then she asked me whether i can apply permit myself, i told her nicely that i cant.
And at the end of the call, she said that she will help me to call up MOM again and hopefully can update me by this week.
I am absolutely very frustrated but i didnt scold her. Somemore i said thank you to her at the end.
I am thinking of wana called up the HR manager or hiring manager to draw their attention.
Btw, i am also wondering is it possible the HR tipu me that she has appealed while she didnt help me to appeal?
cz she said rejected but i cant see in EPonline.

This post has been edited by venicelim: Aug 3 2011, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE(ashland @ Aug 3 2011, 04:15 PM)
That's what I want to confirm becoz I've read few post before mentioning that we do not require to pay tax if we work less than 183 days + total income for that period <SGD20K, which I do hope so  laugh.gif
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yes, less than SGD20k for that particular year u dun have to pay tax.
For example u join in 1 Dec 2010 and ur monthly salary is SGD19k, you would not need to pay tax. (i assume u have no other income from SG)
Butto beter confirm u just call IRAS to check.
U check with ur HR oso, cos ur company mayhave done filling for ur salary.
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QUOTE(venicelim @ Aug 3 2011, 09:11 PM)
Nope. I didnt scold her.
Today in the phone call, i verified with her whether it is true or not that the appeal is rejected.
And then she asked me whether i can apply permit myself, i told her nicely that i cant.
And at the end of the call, she said that she will help me to call up MOM again and hopefully can update me by this week.
I am absolutely very frustrated but i didnt scold her. Somemore i said thank you to her at the end.
I am thinking of wana called up the HR manager or hiring manager to draw their attention.
Byw, i am also wondering that is the HR tipu me that she has appealed while she didnt help me to appeal?
cz she said rejected but i cant see in EPonline.
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maybe EPOnline gets updates slower?idk......
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QUOTE(tailtwist @ Aug 3 2011, 09:12 PM)
maybe EPOnline gets updates slower?idk......
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but the system used by employer to check our status is also EPonline isnt it?
Or they have separate system for employer?

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