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post Aug 24 2019, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(shinzan @ Aug 24 2019, 03:41 PM)
Ya la...upgrade from 45w to 65w charger, add up RM4  doh.gif
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Ya cannot tahan, I don’t get Lenovo financial planing.
Since nobody wanted to get with 45w they die die gonna to products as much.
Actually like 45w and 65w charger size more or less are the same just the overall weight are lighter from 45w.
Still don’t get the consumer needs, for us who’s dislike faster to completely charging in the short during time.
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post Aug 25 2019, 09:53 AM

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ThinkPad X395 is superb laptop size and weight, price not as Super high sky like Intel models.
I love this AMD Rzyen Pro 3500U very quiet unlike Intel always fan kick in.
The keyboard are awesome, key traveller very soft touch and without any pressure for typing any words.
Seem like battery life pretty good, no issue for 5 hours.
Display 300nits not as bad , seem like better than my expectations, colors very nice.
Body chassis are made with Polyform with carbon, feel like a plastics.
The overall build quality are excellent, I will rate this X395 : 9/10.

Unboxing video
https://imgur.com/a/xhbiwRA

Welcome to the world
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Right is P1 Gen 2
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Internal look like and ram onboard.
Storage was Samsung PM981A
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SSD speed
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AMD software not bad
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My conclusion is don’t think the Intel cpu in the midrange anymore, cause as usual facts on heating issue.
Anyway should try in different cpu.
AMD worry for money and make life easy 😍😍

Add on for battery life.
I don’t think can able to hit up 14 hours per changed.
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SUSXnet
post Aug 25 2019, 10:13 AM

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I saw your SFF - what are the specs?

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post Aug 25 2019, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Aug 25 2019, 10:13 AM)
I saw your SFF - what are the specs?
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Almost full specs :
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SUSXnet
post Aug 25 2019, 11:06 AM

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In what case?
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post Aug 25 2019, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Aug 25 2019, 11:06 AM)
In what case?
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What does you mean?
The specs has shown here.

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post Aug 25 2019, 11:08 AM

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The Small Form Factor PC I noticed in the video
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post Aug 25 2019, 11:10 AM

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Don’t understand.. what u wanna know?
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post Aug 25 2019, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Aug 25 2019, 11:08 AM)
The Small Form Factor PC I noticed in the video
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Are you referring to 2nd video?
That one is eGPU.

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post Aug 25 2019, 11:19 AM

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Yes this
I thought it was a SFF PC
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post Aug 25 2019, 03:19 PM

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Benefon, the Thinkpad lover. smile.gif

I presume, one is for work, and one is for personal use?
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QUOTE(Savor_Savvy @ Aug 25 2019, 03:19 PM)
Benefon, the Thinkpad lover. smile.gif

I presume, one is for work, and one is for personal use?
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Yup one for work , one for Entertainment.
Both for personal laptops 😇😅
I love ThinkPad since X1 Carbon 5th gen, once I kena thinkpad keyboard virus , like no others can replace with ThinkPad anymore.

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X395 price is very tempting, but for Linux users like myself;

1. Lenovo have been very poor with LVFS support for their AMD based ThinkPads in the past. BIOS/UEFI and embedded controller updates for their AMD models are only provided on the Windows side, which makes it a no-go for me since the first thing I'll do with any laptop is completely wipe Windows.
2. AMD themselves are very slow in providing open source drivers for the Linux kernel, and show no signs of improving. Their desktop and server CPU support has improved a lot recently, but for the mobile APUs it's still quite flaky, especially with regards to the graphics (Vega) and KVM (Kernel-based Virtual Machine) drivers/modules.
3. Advanced power management on Linux is still quite poor on the AMD side. With Intel, I can easily equal or exceed Windows on most good laptops nowadays, but for AMD APUs things remain a bit of a lottery.

Shame, because I would have liked to save a bit of $$ by going AMD. Looks like I'll need to play safe and stick with Intel this time around and pay more for the X390 instead, especially since I require virtualization on a daily basis.

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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 25 2019, 08:48 PM)
X395 price is very tempting, but for Linux users like myself;

1. Lenovo have been very poor with LVFS support for their AMD based ThinkPads in the past.
2. AMD themselves are very slow in providing open source drivers for the Linux kernel, and show no signs of improving. Their desktop and server CPU support has improved a lot recently, but for the mobile APUs it's still quite flaky.

Shame, because I would have liked to save a bit of $$ by going AMD. Looks like I'll need to play safe and stick with Intel this time around and pay more for the X390 instead. sad.gif
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Any reason to buy ThinkPad and work with Linux OS?
To me AMD or Intel windows platform are better, at least my engineering software all are supported.
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QUOTE(Benefon @ Aug 25 2019, 08:56 PM)
Any reason to buy ThinkPad and work with Linux OS?
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Because I consider Windows an insult to human dignity. tongue.gif

Joking aside, I do a lot of virtualization (edited my previous post) and container work. For virtualization, nothing beats Linux's native QEMU-KVM for performance. For containers, Docker was made for Linux and runs better on it compared to other operating systems.

I don't do gaming or use Office or AutoCad (I have access to Macs in the office for photo/graphic work if required), so don't really have any need for Windows. Also don't need to worry about security so much.

If possible, I'd get a dedicated Linux laptop from boutique manufacturers overseas, but then I'll need to deal with the SIRIM approval nonsense when it arrives in Malaysia. So the next best bet are ThinkPads, since they're also used by the majority of Linux and BSD developers. Don't want to spend too much since this will be a personal machine for pet projects, so don't want any "flagship" level ThinkPad like the X1 Carbon or whatnot.

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Question:
I noticed Lenovo has an Education Store on their site. Do they offer education discounts on ThinkPads, and is there any paperwork required to prove you're an educator?

I know for Apple Macs and iPads in Malaysia you can buy from the their Education K-12 site without any paperwork or questions being asked (you can't claim from company or get income tax deduction though) even if you don't work in the education sector.

For Lenovo, I'm unsure. Thinking of registering with a throwaway email account to find out, but just asking here first in case anyone has experience.
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QUOTE(G-17 @ Aug 26 2019, 01:48 PM)
Question:
I noticed Lenovo has an Education Store on their site. Do they offer education discounts on ThinkPads, and is there any paperwork required to prove you're an educator?

I know for Apple Macs and iPads in Malaysia you can buy from the their Education K-12 site without any paperwork or questions being asked (you can't claim from company or get income tax deduction though) even if you don't work in the education sector.

For Lenovo, I'm unsure. Thinking of registering with a throwaway email account to find out, but just asking here first in case anyone has experience.
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For Education Store there will be a 15% discount, which is quite good but there are other better codes to be use ie. After 9pm you may apply code "NIGHT" for better discount, around 25% for ThinkPad T495 (not sure bout the exact discount).

For paperwork I'm not too sure but if not mistaken it's needed for verification such as student card ID.
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post Aug 26 2019, 04:46 PM

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Discount from RRP or discount after discount?
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QUOTE(zz287963 @ Aug 26 2019, 03:53 PM)
For Education Store there will be a 15% discount, which is quite good but there are other better codes to be use ie. After 9pm you may apply code "NIGHT" for better discount, around 25% for ThinkPad T495 (not sure bout the exact discount).

For paperwork I'm not too sure but if not mistaken it's needed for verification such as student card ID.
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You mean the coupon codes under the price tab are better than education discounts? I've never seen "NIGHT" before, but over the last couple of days I've seen a lot of "SCHOOL" and "WEEKEND" codes.

The Lenovo store site is damn weird. Sometimes, right below the price section you can see small options you can tick (before you enter the customize page) that offer upgraded warranty or backpack for extra RM$1. The strange thing is that it can change whenever. Sometimes I can simply Ctrl-R refresh the page and suddenly more/different options will appear.

Is there some special technique/timing for best pricing?
Feels like those games where you enter cheat codes. I wonder if got God Mode or not. laugh.gif

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post Aug 26 2019, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Aug 25 2019, 08:56 PM)
Any reason to buy ThinkPad and work with Linux OS?
To me AMD or Intel windows platform are better, at least my engineering software all are supported.
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Before being sold to Lenovo, IBM Thinkpad provided one of the best (if not the best) Linux support. But nowadays I think that title is being held by Dell with their Project Sputnik.

Why Linux on laptop? For me:
1) APT and YUM beats any windows-based application manager
2) Terminal
3) SSH

I think even Microsoft (begrudgingly) acknowledges that. Hence why the strong move from their side for Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)

For work that requires lots of precision fast typing (coding and SSH)... Thinkpad keyboards are match made in heaven.

Currently I'm using Dell. If one day kaya... will definitely be checking out Thinkpad again.

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