If you are very interested in the field of your research, then by all means do proceed. I don't think research fellow would have a high salary compare to industrial job.

Alternatively, last time when I'm completed my master, I went to work in Intel, they accept fresh graduate even for M.Sc and Ph.D. Thing is, you'll need to go for multinational company if you want to be paid based on your master level. Some of the local company would not pay the supposedly amount for M.Sc graduate.

By the way, congratulations on your 1st publication and I wish you good luck for your both journal and your viva presentation in the near future.

rm3.5k for M.Sc fresh graduate. Currently I'm doing Ph.D.

^ No worries bro... its normal
Part and parcel of getting the final piece of art~

hey guys. since most of you have or had experience with master or phd.

could you tell me briefly what is it really like?

somehow when i hear this 2 words master and phd. I just feel intimidated.

is it really hard like what people say? some people take master and phd for the wrong reasons.

Actually I've never been exposed to researching before so I won't know whether is it my cup of tea or not.  So what happens after you've done your research? You get to patent your findings? If the research meets a dead end what then? Will I be able to graduate?

Are you sure you will be doing your own research? Based on other post here, most of them seem to be stuck in stage 2 (grad student) . Just saying

currently in my degree now. 1st sem only hahahhaa. long way more to go.

doing pharmacy.

Just had a talk with my lecturer about masters and phd. He said I can do a attachment once my 1st sem ends. hmm sounds interesting

just to get an exposure to what is researching really about.

btw ... you took master/phd?

gratz

Dunno if I belong here. M.Eng in EEIT, majoring Communication, although now working in the Automation sector.

Completed my undergrad studies in an university of applied science (UAS) in Germany right in the middle of an economy recession. Since the same university also offers Master of Engineering (M.Eng) through coursework (UAS in Germany is more geared towards practical, Universities are more theoretical), I took that chance.

I have 0 publications, I did my master thesis at Bosch HQ, where I programmed a Two-Port NWA using their HWs (I don't design the hardware).

Right now, I am thinking about going into the academic world and do my Ph.D and teach, but I like the job I am in. So maybe, if I get the chance, I like to do Industrial Ph.D.

PS: To those looking to do a doctorate in Germany, I would suggest doing Industrial Ph.D (doing it at the company, attached to a local university). Fraunhofer Institute is the most widespread research institute throughout Germany.

You can also do it the traditional way and be a RO at a university while doing research on a topic. I am not sure if you have to teach at this stage.

Not so sure, to be honest. When I was doing my master thesis though, almost all of the guys in the dept have the "Dr." title, and two are actually working towards their doctorate degree.

Yeah, I thought so too. But isn't there lecturer whose focus is solely on teaching and not researching? (Other than applying new knowledge, that is)

Well, most of the time people who do research will tend to find facts that support their theory/ objectives... everybody just loves positive results, don't they? 
A proper research should take into account all the positive/negative points of a particular topic/technology etc. prior to initiation of a project, which is why the planning and designing of a project is very important..

As for those biased thesis/papers focusing only on the positive side of the topic/technology etc., most of the time they won't get passed the reviewers (who are a whole lot more experienced in the field), especially for international papers 

True that
Its not easy though haha~
I've seen some older reviewers who are rather "closed-minded" and insisted that their methods are "correct" and unwilling to accept other ppl's work 

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Added on April 4, 2012, 10:28 am

Yeap, which is why we don't conduct studies on similar issues in the 1st place?

Some they are the editor of the same journal, but i would think that the paper will be reviewed by the assoc editors

On a related note, anyone here is a reviewer? i think one should get involve in peer-review as well.