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This post has been edited by aztechx: Mar 18 2012, 12:53 AM

Starting to see more camrys on the road..the looks was a bit harsh at first but seems to grow on you after awhile..wonder if this is a 'studied' kind of thing..but still it cant beat the elegance of the previous model..

Btw cybermaster98, do u work for an automotive company?it seems like your comments against toyota in most threads are at times constructive but at others seems almost 'unrealistic'..

Cybermaster98, what i means is how 'excessive' some of your negative comments are. Im not a big fan of the camry judging on how the bloodsucking umw Removed the VSC from the current gen camry and bUmping up the price, we all agree on that. but i notice that any threads containing the word 'camry', there will be posts from u that very harshly 'shoot' the owners of camry as well as the car itself.So out of curiosity i just wondered maybe u work for an automotive company or just passionately hate the company anD their products so much.

I have to agree with kepalapening on this. It has come to a point where remarks that seems to 'curse' toyota users surface everywhere. Even remarks like "why toyota buyers dont care about the safety of their family" or "if u buy camry because u dont care about safety then its ok". To me its an insult to those owners as who in the world wouldnt care about safety?

I do agree with the points that the camry doesnt seem like a good buy now but i have to admit that a camry is a camry. There do have some strengths and appeal to it that others dont. Point is,IF i had the luxury of buying one,I wont. but i wont go to the length of questioning and insulting those who actually bought the car for What i feel are very valid reasons.but then again thats just me.

This post has been edited by aztechx: Oct 15 2012, 11:13 AM

based on my post above, i think you can obviously see im not happy with the specs of the Camry offered here as well. But realistically, we all know due to the tax structure here, you cant expect to get 10 airbags etc. with that 180-190k price tag right?and my point was, yes the Camry is bad in the sense that it is under equipped and over-priced, BUT, i feel we all should respect those who decide to buy it for what i say are very valid reasons.

I have been reading through this thread every once in awhile and i have seen you repeating the same points over and over again regardless of what the content of the post is.

I do not blame the local distributors in this,why?they are doing business. and im referring to all the distributors here.Toyota is the non national market leader and they can afford to 'risk' taking out such features to reduce cost (increase profit) and see how the market reacts before implementing a countermeasure if it doesnt work. Other makes have to play catchup in order to survive and they choose the option of strategic pricing and specs such as airbags and other juicy features. Do you really think these companies 'care' about customers safety?i dont think so. Its all business in my opinion. Which is why i dont agree with "company A doesnt care about our safety" "company B doesnt value our lives" etc.For companies like Toyota, who like you said has enjoyed such good sales for so long,its all about getting the balnce between reducing cost and maximizing profits. And Toyota can bank on that due to their strong 'brand sentiment', reputation as well as history or making reliable cars (note the word history) and they are not making 'tin can' cars either,thus, i dont think its fair to question those who actually choose to get a 'safe' choice (pun intended) such as the camry. You see my point here?

About the Camy owners answer, i think theres already a fair share of them here. and since i dont own one, and dont think ill ever want to own one in the near future, im not in the right position to comment



i wasnt specifying you in the posts above. and yes i do read your posts and i have mentioned that some of them are very constructive and i do learn quite some things from those posts, at the moment i dont have the leisure to search back in the forum but im sure ive read many comments, not necessarily from you, in this thread and paultan which i feel is a bit overboard. But saying so, this is the internet, cant expect rules of respect to work here.

About the safety of the driver, The Camry might lack VSC and the 10 airbags but i do feel that it is still in the 'safe' category but perhaps, less safe compared to the likes of optima and Passat. Which why i feel is what the Camry buyers have in mind, because in other words, if you want a super safe car why not buy a volvo or a tank?i do believe that everyone has the right to choose and i dont think car buyers in malaysia are as stupid as what some forumers and paultan comments think they are. Maybe they like the looks of the cars which is subjective, the famous ride comfort and silentness of the car and of course, the most repeated word in this thread. Resale Value.

plus i think you and I know how those thumbs up and thumbs down on paultan dont really reflect the true situation most of the time due to 10 year olds now having access to internet.

About the Prius, i wonder where you had the idea that i own one, although i do wish i do. I honestly feel its generously spec-ed car and being an engineer, technology like this does wow me in an unexplain-able kind of way. ive always felt curious ever since my university days on electric vehicles and hybrids. Had the privilege to drive my neighbors prius a few months back, i have to say the amount of technology in it is fascinating. But i guess lets leave that in the Prius thread maybe?

This post has been edited by aztechx: Oct 15 2012, 05:04 PM

I guess the Debate was healthy and very informative up to the point where name callings and insults were thrown which is a typical trait of an internet debate.immaturity that ends all arguements.I dont regard myself so highly to the point of calling another person stupid.simply speaking, Everyone has their opinions and i respect yours.Congrats On your internet 'win' and ChEers

This post has been edited by aztechx: Oct 15 2012, 06:56 PM