Thanks. I think the big problem is that the D segment Camry is compared to other D segment cars in Malaysia, and compared to those it does feel a bit lacking. What makes it worse is that we know that Toyota has all the tech, but simply doesn't offer it, or even removes it from previous generations. If (when) Toyota fixes that it'll be a decent car again, but until then I can't recommend it, and I hope people just stop buying it, and tell the SA why.

In other countries the Camry/Avensis can be sold at a competitive enough price, with all the same specs the competitors have. In Malaysia the price is the same, but all the specs are missing, especially the ones that are important, and that are, IMHO, to be expected in the D segment. If I pay this much I want safety. I want to be protected as good as possible, I don't want to be on the same level as a Myvi. Think that is a reasonable thing to expect.

sorry, the keyless just example. Just I can't really tell why for a car more than 100k getting a plain plastic which might cost only 50 cents extra for better casing? Packing are 1 of the selling point. Right?

prius got HUD, auto sensor, Electrical handbrake, and so. cost 145k vs Altis 1.8G = 126k = 10k diff and you get a hybrid + alot new stuff. I cant say it was good, but for me to choose toyota again. only worth to buy was prius / C or hilux.

4 x 4 hilux = really I reccomended since I been using 2 generation hilux. the lastest I haven't got it. But if you compare other 4 x 4 = price wise very same, but durability compare previous ranger, navara, D-max, triton = It quite reliable. Navara lack of power when comes to hill climb, D-max got few times electronic failure. Triton is good but not as comfort / silence as hilux