You can test the car. But they arent gonna offer it to just anybody. U gotta be a serious buyer. Ive already tested the Optima about 5 or 6 times in KL and Ipoh. So if u want a test then look serious and push them for a test drive.

The best discount currently is RM11K which is being offered in the Klang Valley. But seems like all remaining stock has finished.

Heard that the brochure for the new Camry is out and its confirmed that the 2.0E and 2.0G will use the old engine and old 4 speed transmission. 2.5V with new engine and 6 speed transmission + 4 airbags.

Im interested to see how this Camry will sell in comparision with its predecessors and with all the competition around it.

Can u provide some actual comparisons between the sale price and the resale value together with the links? Will make it easier for reference later on for others. Thanks. But yes i agree that the K5 beats the Camry flat.

Since when do Toyota salesmen need to come to Lowyat?? Must be getting desperate eh?

U never drove the previous Camry and neither do u know bout the 508 and Passat as well. Its clear enough. Only an ignorant person will say the new Camry is really good compared to the 508 and Passat. What car do u drive now anyway and do u know the meaning of value for money? Guess not eh.

Whats wrong in comparing the K5 to the Camry? Both are D segments and thus are apple to apple comparisons. Apple to orange is when ppl compare the Camry with a Forte. So the Camry can be compared to the K5 and its perfectly alright.

No ure not driving an Accord. Its kinda obvious actually. Guys who actually drive D segments will know something about cars. In your case, u dont know anything bout cars. Ure just another wannabe cuz only those who are ignorant will say that a Camry is very good compared to the Passat.

And yes im quite happy with the K5. Its not the best and it has its cons but it surely is very much value for money and its safety standards are far better than the new Camry. Besides resale value and after sales service, the Camry doesnt have much else going for it. Both of which can be matched by the Koreans in about 5 years judging by the way the Koreans are improving.

Maybe u didnt even book a Camry. That could be another story as well. Continue living in yer fantasy world kiddo. Come back here when ure ready to discuss maturedly yea? Cheers!

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Added on June 9, 2012, 11:13 pmBravo...spoken like a true kid. Keep it up. The more u talk the more im convinced that ure just a nobody whos trying to be somebody by bragging. We've had a few cases like u here in LYN.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 9 2012, 11:13 PM

I too was targetting the new Camry from 2011 after getting 9 yrs of excellent service from my Vios. But when it was launched in the US, i backed off when i saw the design. But i still had some hope that the Asian design would be better and i was hoping for a much improved engine and transmission from a new generation model. But when i saw the Asian design and read the specs, i was 100% convinced i wasnt gonna blow up 150-180K on a dinosour and allow Toyota to rip me off.

Thats when i started looking at other makes and i realised how much Toyota had been taking us all for a ride in Asia giving us inferior specs while still charging us high premiums. Even the 2.5V model can't match the specs on the 2.0L Optima despite its RM37K extra price tag. And mind you we're talking about the top of the line flagship model from Toyota while the Optima we have in Malaysia is not the top of the line (thr's the 2.0 Turbo and 2.4L GDI which we cant get here due to the inferior fuel quality). On top of that, Toyota decided to remove the Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) system found on the previous gen Camry. Even the Proton Preve has stability control.

The 2.0G Camry is the real dinosour with its 10 yr old 4 speed auto gearbox and not even the Dual VVTI engine. Not to mention only 2 airbags (just like the 2003 Vios 1.5G) with just basic ABS, EBD and BA which even the Myvi has.

When the new Camry 2.5V was tested by the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration), it got only a 4 star rating for frontal and rollover impact assessments despite the higher safety specs found in US models e.g knee airbags, side airbags, VSC, traction control, etc. I dread to think how our Malaysian Camry would fare with only its inferior safety specs. The Optima K5 obtained 5 star ratings in all 3 frontal, side and rollover impact assessments.

But overall, Toyota needs to improve its vehicle designs and start providing better specs for its models if it intends to stay ahead of the Koreans for many years to come. In Malaysia, the Koreans are already improving their after sales service and resale values are increasing in tandem with much improved sales. The Kia Forte is a clear indication of this improvement in resale value.

Lets see how the Camry fares in the face of tougher competition. It will still be a best seller but i dont see Toyota enjoying the margins it used to have in the past.

I thought there was a test drive report on Paultan already? Wasnt that good i think. Camry is made for comfort only so dont expect performance.

The new Camry has the same platform as the previous model if im not mistaken. Same wheelbase also. Length 4,825mm and wheelbase 2,775mm.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 10 2012, 10:27 AM

ACIS refers to Acoustic Control Induction Engine which uses a single intake air control valve to optimise power and torque to improve fuel efficiency. Not really a new technology.

Just had the chance to check out the new Camry 2.0G. I must say that Toyota has really cut some corners. The interior is very cheapo looking especially the dashboard. Side door panels also look cheapo. Quite similar to the Vios in terms of interior quality. Exterior looks made worse by the outdated body kits. Internal legroom quite similar to the outgoing model. Dont really feel the extra 1 inch claimed by Toyota.

But from what ive seen today, im glad i didnt wait for the Camry. It surely is a disappointment. for almost RM 158K. There were only 2 other couples at the TTDI outlet and both kept commenting on the lack of specs, old tech and the expensive price tag. I remember seeing much better response for the Toyota Altis when the facelift was launched.

Lets see how the Camry fares in actual sales.

Dual intakes have been used by other manufacturers as well. Even the Kia Optima K5 uses dual intake valves.

Many of those who opt for the Camry probably wont even bother to test other cars. How many of them will actually test drive the Optima, VW Passat or the Peugeot 508 before considering the Camry? They wont cuz in their minds Toyota is the best and most value for money. Yes they might have better after sales service than other brands but when u look at the car itself its a real fluke. Old platform, crappy design, old gearbox, old engine, poor interior finish and limited specs. Imagine having only a 4 speed auto on a flagship 2.0 high spec 2012 model!

Only the 2.5V has the new tech and better specs but i wont pay RM181K for such an old fashioned car with only 4 airbags and no stability control. For that price i would rather put in 60K more and get the new Audi 1.8 Turbo TFSI with 170HP, 320Nm torque, 8 speed multitronic auto, better specs & design.

Even the 2.0L Optima K5 is much more value for money compared to the 2.0G Camry. Yes it may not get as good resale value compared to the Camry in 7 yrs time but what's there to complain when ure getting a much better looking car (inside and outside), equal internal legroom, top class specs, more powerful engine, new auto transmission, better ride handling, higher safety standards, 5 years unlimited mileage manufacturers warranty and a price tag thats cheaper by RM 15K.

Reliability is only 1 factor to be considered. With the high prices if cars in Malaysia, value for money is equally if not more important. Its pointless buying an expensive car if ure not getting what u deserve from it. The Camry is not just a point to point car. Its the flagship car of Toyota and its buyers have certain specific requirements the same as other D segment car buyers. Reliability, class, design, comfort, interior space, safety, specs are all important factors for buyers in this segment. Many of those who opt for D segment cars are in the middle to upper management professional bracket earning 5 figure salaries and have good investments elsewhere. They dont just want a point to point car. Resale value is often not a concern as it is with B and C segment cars.



This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jun 11 2012, 06:57 PM

Camry does have good resale value compared to other D segment cars. But u cant compare with B or C segment cars. Most ppl make the mistake of assuming Camry resale value is as good as Vios or Altis but its far from that.

But nobody knows what will happen in 5 years time. I dont expect the current Camry to enjoy the kind of resale value the older model enjoyed especially with all the competition around it. Its already quite common to see cars with 6 speed auto now with more safety features. In 5 years time, when ppl start selling the current Camry's, who would actually want to get a 4 speed gb with a 15 yr old engine and 2 airbags and a old design? Thats when i expect the resale value to take a big hit. The 2.5V wont have good resale value simply because of limited demand for high capacity engines. The trend now is going turbo with higher powered lower capacity engines. In 5 yrs time, maybe even the 2.0L normal petrol engines may not be in demand.

I think most ppl who drive alot on highways will easily cruise at 150-160kmph. Nowadays with the kind of tech we're getting in cars, reaching such speeds is as easy as hitting 80kmph on 2nd gear.

I agree. Germany has implemented mandatory Vehicle Stability Control systems on all new cars from 2012 onwards. If it wasnt an important feature, would they make it mandatory just like airbags? Hence, why i think our new 2.0G Camry will not get that good a resale value in about 5-7 yrs time if Malaysia follow in Germany's footsteps. I see that happening because even the new Proton Preve has VSC.

Then tell me why has Germany made it compulsory for all new cars to have VSC or similar systems from 2012 onwards? Are the Germans wrong? They are the same ones who made airbags and seatbelts compulsory before many other countries followed in their footsteps.