Do I need to sit inside a van to know that it is not a car?

This post has been edited by kepalapening: Dec 12 2012, 08:17 AM

So now the Alphard is a van? So basically u dont know the difference between a van and a MPV now eh?

If u had to exit from the rear of the vehicle, then i would say you parked at a wrong place or your parking skill isnt good. Your doors couldnt open because it was possibly obstructed. Nothing to do with the vehicle itself. How long or wide is an Alphard anyway compared to say a Camry? The Alphard is only about 15mm longer and 10mm wider than a Camry. The biggest difference is in the height and wheelbase since the Alphard doesnt come with much of a boot. So why would it be any more difficult in parking? Except for the height and the possible blind spots, it would be almost the same. And i would think its a plus point for u since u cant exit from the boot if u were in a car.

Parking involves skill. You need more skill to park large MPV's but in no way impossible especially since most come equipped with front and rear cameras. I find it easier to reverse park my K5 compared to my Vios now despite the huge increase in length. Just need to adapt your driving style.

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Dec 12 2012, 09:47 AM

Alphard is still not a car whether it is a van or MPV.

maybe my parking skill gua

The most impressive thing with the new Camry is the size, even though its wheelbase actually isn't bigger than the K5, but interior space is still bigger (surprisingly)

Camry: 2775
K5: 2795
Teana: 2775
Mazda 6 2013: 2830
Mazda CX5: 2700
Peugeot 508: 2817
Passat: 2712

All dimensions in mm.

current's better

Seat configuration and inner panels make a difference as well.

Yes, and the rear doors shut pathetically too in the small Lexus... like a Myvi. Ok if it's a cheap Myvi, not ok if it's an expensive Lexus. But still, it's not that bad. Though I'd expect more from Lexus.

A Ranger... not exactly the most refined car in the world, is it? Not sure if it qualifies as an alternative to a D segment car, more of a workhorse that will go anywhere.

Maybe in the Camry they leave out crumple zones etc.?

If you want the ultimate in space, there is only one choice in this price range: Skoda Superb. Also it is only slightly behind a Merc E class in terms of refinement and ride quality.
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Btw. why exit from the boot? Alphard got sliding doors, right? There is no better type of doors for tight parking.

In Camry, no "bonggol" in the middle. A kid can sleep on the floor then .

Eh, if you want your kids to be able to sleep. You don't need to spend that much to buy a Camry. Just buy a Nissan Grand Livina or Serena. The latter being more comfortable but the Livina will easily just do the job as well, fold down the rear seats and they can sleep like a bed. I think the Honda Stream can fold down its rear seats too. Why would you let your kid sleep on the car floor???

HAHAHAHAHAHH! I really couldnt help laughing! I really wanna meet this guy la. The more he comments the more i laugh.

I lolled very hard upon reading this. Why would any parent bear asking their kids to sleep on car floor when the kids can sleep on the seats? Poor kids.

maybe he got lots of kids but refuse to get an MPV

still tight can't get out even open door

like less than 6" space.

The Passat rear seats will actually fold down to access the trunk when required, so basically if I really wanted to... I could buy a cheap mattress and have kids sleep in that manner... but erm, no. LOL

Does the Camry rear seats fold down to access the trunk or is it just a trunk through from the armrest?

I never ask my kid to sleep on the floor. But,my youngest one like to do that ever since I use a MPV.

Btw, this statement shows how spacious the camry is.

There is a small door if I fold the middle sit as an access to the trunk.

Grand livina is not a car. If I want a MPV it's better for me to keep my ex Naza Ria.

This post has been edited by kepalapening: Dec 13 2012, 01:23 PM

It just shows that there is no bump in the center. Which is a good thing of course, but not much of an issue to me.

@Iluvproton: you have to loose weight then

You can't fold the rear seats in the Camry? Really? The last time I have seen a car that can't do it was... Hm... I think never. All my cars had it, all the rental ones I drove too. Some you can also remove the rear bench or individual seats.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Dec 13 2012, 01:57 PM

Space was never an issue when it comes to the Camry, it's always famous for being one of the most spacious D-segment sedans available on the market today, so you haven't said anything that people don't already know.

Btw, I don't consider the Grand Livina or Honda Stream RSZ as MPV even though they are designed to have the same seating function of one. They drive more like a sedan than an MPV because of the way they were designed. I think it's the same case Mitsubishi Grandis. All of which, I believe are a far cry compared to the Naza RIA

Turn a corner and you feel the horrific body roll of an MPV