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 New Toyota Camry 2012, is Really coming now!

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jchong
post Sep 11 2012, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:41 AM)
I also noticed something about the cruise control. If u set the cruise at 110kmph, your FC is ok. But if u set at around 140kmph above, then your fuel consumption is really increases as the car will try to maintain the speed by frequently downshifting to 5th gear. So if you wanna maintain high speed, best would be to not use the cruise. Is it the same with your cars as well?
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You're referring to your K5 right?
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post Sep 11 2012, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:41 AM)
I also noticed something about the cruise control. If u set the cruise at 110kmph, your FC is ok. But if u set at around 140kmph above, then your fuel consumption is really increases as the car will try to maintain the speed by frequently downshifting to 5th gear. So if you wanna maintain high speed, best would be to not use the cruise. Is it the same with your cars as well?
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No such issues with my car, it's constant 7th gear all the way. The rev counter rises when going uphill though, but that's to be expected. Consumption will also surely increase with higher speed but that's also expected.

Maybe Koreans have some odd programming logic with their gears.
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post Sep 11 2012, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Sep 11 2012, 12:00 PM)
No such issues with my car, it's constant 7th gear all the way. The rev counter rises when going uphill though, but that's to be expected. Consumption will also surely increase with higher speed but that's also expected.

Maybe Koreans have some odd programming logic with their gears.
Increase yes. But what im saying is that the FC at a particular speed e.g 150kmph while using cruise is higher than when ure not using cruise.

In the Optima, the 6th gear is a cruising gear meant to lower FC at a certain speed. But once u depress the accelerator a bit, the gear automatically drops to 5th momentarily to provide the additional acceleration. But if im in Eco mode, then the car maintains 6th gear but the acceleration is very gradual. I dont think this differs much from other cars.


Added on September 11, 2012, 12:08 pm
QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 11 2012, 11:49 AM)
You're referring to your K5 right?
Yes

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post Sep 11 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Sep 11 2012, 12:00 PM)
No such issues with my car, it's constant 7th gear all the way. The rev counter rises when going uphill though, but that's to be expected.

If your rev counter rises when going uphill isn't that a sign of gear downshifting?

Your car can only maintain 7th gear all the way if it has enough power to do so. If it doesn't have enough power to maintain going uphill on 7th then the gearbox will downshift.
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post Sep 11 2012, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 11 2012, 11:41 AM)
I also noticed something about the cruise control. If u set the cruise at 110kmph, your FC is ok. But if u set at around 140kmph above, then your fuel consumption is really increases as the car will try to maintain the speed by frequently downshifting to 5th gear. So if you wanna maintain high speed, best would be to not use the cruise. Is it the same with your cars as well?
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Probably means your car cannot sustain 140kph on 6th gear all the way. When going uphill or incline it has to drop to 5th to maintain 140kph. This is quite normal behaviour.


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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 11 2012, 12:07 PM)
Increase yes. But what im saying is that the FC at a particular speed e.g 150kmph while using cruise is higher than when ure not using cruise.

Doesn't make sense. 150kph on cruise or on foot should be similar in FC.

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In the Optima, the 6th gear is a cruising gear meant to lower FC at a certain speed. But once u depress the accelerator a bit, the gear automatically drops to 5th momentarily to provide the additional acceleration. But if im in Eco mode, then the car maintains 6th gear but the acceleration is very gradual. I dont think this differs much from other cars.

Again seems to be normal behaviour.

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post Sep 11 2012, 08:26 PM

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I think he may be more adaptive, as in it is ok when the speed drops slightly below 140, or he may accelerate a bit when downhill, so when going uphill the car already has a surplus of speed and can thus climb easier.

Anyway, 140 in 6th shouldn't be much of a problem...? Unless you are going up Genting... How high are the revs at that speed? Could be an issue with the programming of the gearbox. Maybe next time when that happens you can do a manual override and force the engine to stay in 6th, then see if it can maintain the speed, if you have to use full throttle (think that also consumes more, so the gearbox is actually smart to downshift? Not sure...). Also compare the current fuel consumption between going up in 5th and going up in 6th, at the same speed.

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post Sep 11 2012, 09:25 PM

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just to keep you guys informed that the pedal lock for all new camry is already available

* not to mention door visor too of course

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post Sep 12 2012, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 11 2012, 12:21 PM)
Doesn't make sense. 150kph on cruise or on foot should be similar in FC.
Not really. When ure in cruise, the car will try and maintain the set speed. But while the cruise is off, you may slow down on uphill climbs or go faster on downhill and use momentum to take you. Thus u get varied FC readings.

On a flat road of course both cruise and without cruise will give you almost identical readings. Im refering to uphill climbs.

But on hindsight, i think i face this more often when im at 160kmph and above. Not 140kmph.


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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 11 2012, 08:26 PM)
I think he may be more adaptive, as in it is ok when the speed drops slightly below 140, or he may accelerate a bit when downhill, so when going uphill the car already has a surplus of speed and can thus climb easier.

Anyway, 140 in 6th shouldn't be much of a problem...? Unless you are going up Genting... How high are the revs at that speed? Could be an issue with the programming of the gearbox. Maybe next time when that happens you can do a manual override and force the engine to stay in 6th, then see if it can maintain the speed, if you have to use full throttle (think that also consumes more, so the gearbox is actually smart to downshift? Not sure...). Also compare the current fuel consumption between going up in 5th and going up in 6th, at the same speed.
Sorry its actually 160kmph. I dont recall facing this at 140kmph. At 160kmph, my revs are at 3250 RPM. The car will easily stay in 6th gear even going slightly uphill if i engage manual or even the Eco mode. Only the acceleration is gradual.

In the K5, the moment the RPM redlines, it will upshift automatically. You dont have a choice really. Redline is around 6500 RPM i think.

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post Sep 12 2012, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Sep 12 2012, 08:17 AM)
Not really. When ure in cruise, the car will try and maintain the set speed. But while the cruise is off, you may slow down on uphill climbs or go faster on downhill and use momentum to take you. Thus u get varied FC readings.

On a flat road of course both cruise and without cruise will give you almost identical readings. Im refering to uphill climbs.

In that case it's not an apples to apples comparison. On cruise you're maintaining constant speed (even when going uphill), whereas on manual as you said you might slow when going uphill and go faster downhill. Different acceleration profile so definitely different FC reading.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 11 2012, 12:17 PM)
If your rev counter rises when going uphill isn't that a sign of gear downshifting?

Your car can only maintain 7th gear all the way if it has enough power to do so. If it doesn't have enough power to maintain going uphill on 7th then the gearbox will downshift.
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Yes, but I haven't driven on that steep a hill at such high speeds to know whether it will downshift or not. It probably will but so far I've not seen my car downshift a gear while maintaining speeds of 130km/hr or higher.
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Sep 4 2012, 11:03 AM)
Anyone know the 0-100 time of the Camry 2.5?
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I remember a magazine claimed its 0-100 is 8.xs.
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(ferrari38 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:49 PM)
I remember a magazine claimed its 0-100 is 8.xs.
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It's possible but I doubt it.
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post Sep 13 2012, 12:27 PM

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anyone here own the latest camry? how long is the service interval? 10k km? tq.
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post Sep 13 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Sep 13 2012, 12:27 PM)
anyone here own the latest camry? how long is the service interval? 10k km? tq.
Its been 10,000km for fully synthetic oil since before 2003 i think.
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QUOTE(theanswer @ Sep 13 2012, 12:27 PM)
anyone here own the latest camry? how long is the service interval? 10k km? tq.
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1K, 5K, every 10K
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post Sep 13 2012, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Sep 13 2012, 07:56 AM)



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The listed time for 0 to 100 is 8.7s to 9s. Not bad, I actually expected it to do it in 10.5s or so
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Sep 13 2012, 02:29 PM)
The listed time for 0 to 100 is 8.7s to 9s. Not bad, I actually expected it to do it in 10.5s or so
10.5 secs for a 2.5L engine would be really bad i would think. Even the 2.0L K5 (which is considered underpowered) does the sprint in about 10.9 secs.
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QUOTE(kepalapening @ Sep 13 2012, 01:20 PM)
1K, 5K, every 10K
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ok tq. need to know few info regarding new camry. my dad been looking for a new car to replace his old rusty leaking perdana. icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 14 2012, 08:40 AM

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Thread seems dead. Gotta jump start it again i guess. biggrin.gif

New 2013 Ford Focus launched yesterday. I would say the Titanium Plus (Sedan) is a real bargain for just RM128,888 (OTR):

1) ABS, EBD, TCS, ESP
2) 6 airbags
3) Keyless Entry & Push Start
4) Dual Zone auto aircon
5) SYNC audio system with voice command
6) 9 speakers
7) Leather seats
8) Power driver seat
9) Active Grille Shutter system
10) Torque Vectoring Control (TVC)
11) Active Park Assist (auto parking)
12) Active City Stop (auto braking)
13) Blind Spot Info System (BLIS)
14) Additional curtain airbags
15) Automatic Bi - Xenon HID lights
16) Cruise control
17) Rain sensing auto wipers
18) Power sunroof

Not to mention the powerful 2.0L TI-VCT GDI engine with 168Hp & 202Nm torque. Plus Ford's new 5 year / 200,000km warranty. And we all know that Ford's driving dynamics and ride handling is really good.

With this, the Ford Focus has raised the bar again in terms of specs on offer. Beats even the more expensive K5, Peugeot 508 and even the Japanese D segments. rclxms.gif



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