Nice looking but if the engine is shitty like the previous Sonata, then no doubt the resale value will drop. I still remember how underpowered the engine is when go Genting, kena tapao by city

So now I'm looking into a decent car, Camry or Passat. No more korean cars please.

normal la korean
passat is a smart buy

Yes no doubt the if the leaked images are real, the Camry will at least looks better than the Passat.



It looks like a typical Chinese car to me.

U should try Theta II. The engine is different from previous Sonata. Go test drive.

Having driven the old Sonata I did not really want to commit into a Sonata again despite a new engine that offers better efficiency with little power gain. If you asked me, yes I test drove it. To me, power delivery at straight roads are okay, acceptable but the problem comes in when you're going uphill. It just acts like a fat boy who does not want to move.

I know it's not fair to compare with a new one but lets put you into my shoe for a while that you committed on a Sonata before with bad fuel, low power and accessories stop working. How would you feel, even more, especially when a 123k that you plunged drops to less than the price of a second Myvi today?

Surely, I know you know how it feels.

Plus, the new Sonata is so "new". We just have to wait for few more years to ensure it's a problem free. (Major problem free).

This post has been edited by Icehart: Aug 12 2011, 10:52 PM

My father got the new Sorento which is using Theta II 2.4. Hill roads no prob. got punch. Even more powerful than CR-V & even the Fortuner 2.7....

Really? Then maybe the test car has problems. I will rent one unit of Sonata and go Genting this weekend.

Im a Toyota supporter for the past 8 yrs. But the Sonata surely isnt ugly. You must either be blind or have really poor taste.

Resale value is dependent on demand. Right now, Sonata sales are quite ok. Much better sales than previous models. So the resale value will be much better. Of course the Camry is doing much better as expected. So surely its resale value will be better than the Sonata.

But the issue is, can Toyota maintain their sales record with when they launch the crappy new Camry? I doubt. The Camry will still sell but its sales figures will not be as good as the current model.

waiting for the new passat 2012....

How would you know? Judging by design?
I remember last time when Lancer was launched a lot of people mock it being ugly and all and look where it is today?

I'm not a fanboy of Toyota but I think we should not judge a book by its cover.

This post has been edited by Icehart: Aug 14 2011, 11:32 AM

Yes tested it with a Fortuner & CRV on the way to Terengganu from Penang. On straight & even corners, Sorento tapao them.... It is also a very stable car.

I'm not Korean car fags. At home oso got '09 Accord... This is good for spirited driving....

What's true I will state it...

Well i havent heard of comments that the Lancer was ugly. But the Lancer surely isnt ugly if u ask me. And its sales isnt all that great in Malaysia anyway so your point is?

which old sonata have u owned? the merz headlamp+jaguar tail version? or the generation after that?

its pity that the previous gen sonata with CRDi engine wasnt introduced in malaysia.. they are being used as cabbies in SG, and these cabbies are the mat rempit in SG streets... they are real sprinters..

if its being used widely as cabbies in SG, reliability must've been good..

Well my point is that it is too early to judge a car when it has not been announced officially and there's no reliable reviews to conclude the pros and cons of it. We're not even sure what engines is coming with new Camry but I'm hoping they bring in the 2.4 Litre Hybrid engine.


Yes, the Merz headlamp but my uncle owns the generation after that. The NF Sonata with the 2.4 offers better fuel efficiency but is not spared from reliability problems as well.

Unfortunately, as you said, the CRDi engine was not introduced and so is GDI in the new Sonata. It scored pretty well in reviews at overseas am I am eager to try it out but it is sad when our Sonata comes with Theta options only. They're not willing to risk it on our low quality fuel.

Well they surely arent bringing in any hybrid versions for the Camry anytime soon at least.

http://paultan.org/2011/08/12/new-toyota-c...n-buyers-guide/



will this be the malaysia version of camry 2012....gosh it look so ugly to me

looks like a beefed up altis.

Japan domestic interior quite nice...


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Yes thats what many ppl think as well. Toyota has really gone backward with this. Total disappointment!

IMHO its nicer that current uncle version camry