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post Aug 25 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(sam_01 @ Aug 25 2014, 02:24 PM)
Dear Forumers,

Just wanna ask, I just got my house keys and was thinking about installing air-cond in the living room. Also, I'm planning to do a plaster ceiling in the living room. What should I do first, make concealed aircond piping first, then install plaster ceiling? Or aircond/piping can be done later?
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Distance between blower and the compressor unit must be as near as possible.
As far as possible, don't conceal too much, you may have problem later on.
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post Oct 22 2014, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 22 2014, 08:23 PM)
Bro, wat mean by the 4 wires & 5 wires. Different AC use different?
May I know wat different between the 4 & 5 wires?
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You no need to know this, unless you want to DIY.
Even if you want to DIY, you need to have the manual in place.
the number 4 or 5 is more on the controller wire.
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post Oct 23 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 23 2014, 12:06 PM)
Because all my air con is going conseal....and the conseal is done.
For the air con i use three different brand, i already let my main con the model and brand.
But the contractor no ask me which model/brand for which room de....so i worry the contractor set up wrong.
How to see which air con use 4 or 5 wired?
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Why need to go full conceal? You are looking for trouble later on, especially when you want to change brand.
Conceal a PVC pipe for wiring and air cond copper pipe are the best way, so you no need to worry.
If your renovation works not done, suggest to spend some extra money to redo this.
Basic type air cond only 3 wires, inverter are 4 or 5 wires. And air cond installation should be done by air con man, not your contractor do everything first.
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post Oct 23 2014, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 23 2014, 03:29 PM)
For the wires, can I put all 5 wires ready in case future need?

For the conceal part.....my house got a lot beam so need to turn here turn there, even hide inside PVP also hard to remove without hack.
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If this is the case, you shall not conceal and reroute the air cond pipes.
It may not look good in some sense, but when problem comes, you will know the pain of hacking, it will be very messy.
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post Oct 23 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 23 2014, 05:26 PM)
Bro mean dont conceal? just put casing cover up.....?
I also worry for future gas leaking, but for now i do my best like use inverter pipe(more thick) and I ask the contractor test the pipe before plaster back. Test with putting gas inside and set a gas meter at the pipe. Test around 1 week+.
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Nope, you need to install such that both the units are as near as possible. With this way you can hack the wall with a hole, put PVC pipe, conceal back that PVC pipe.
Then the pipe and wiring will be covered by both of the units.
Later I show you my house's photo on both of the installation method.

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post Oct 23 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 23 2014, 06:36 PM)
I not living in landed house like bro cry.gif
So the air con compressor cannot simple set one.....got special place to put de.
For some room and living is quite far...... rclxub.gif

Bro, wanna ask the NON inverter air con only use 3 wired only?
And the inverter air con use 4-5 wired?
Thanks
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Yup, non inverter only 3 wires while inverter 34 or 5, depending on brand.
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post Oct 24 2014, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(7up @ Oct 24 2014, 09:23 AM)
can I ask, I plan to install non-inverter air cond on my wall which already has a power point. I have gotten my contractor to conceal the water pipe and the copper pipe (with black rubber) to my outside wall.
I am yet to get them to install the unit itself. If in future i want to change brand or inverter type anything i can cater now?
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Attached Image Attached Image
This is my room's air cond setup.
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post Oct 25 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 25 2014, 10:58 AM)
This look nice and easy to change in future rclxms.gif
How about some of the room that not next to outside....some room next to kitchen
How bro cover up the small space between the pipe and the pvc hole? Plastering?
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On my first photo, that's my master bed room setup, you will see the white hose part, that's the water outlet while the black part is the connection point to the outdoor unit. Those are the parts which will be removed for servicing.
So you need to make sure this part can easily being access.
My PVC hole won't be covered by anything.
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post Oct 25 2014, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 25 2014, 05:26 PM)
The wall is face outside, right?
If the hole no cover up raining water will no go inside?
Bird/insert will not go inside? Even the air con block the hole but still got small gap there
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Outside, inside also the same.
Insect unlikely to enter since we already blocked it with paper.
As for rain water also unlikely since it is covered by roof, chances of getting rain water are quite low.
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post Oct 26 2014, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 26 2014, 12:31 AM)
Simple and flexible rclxms.gif
Maybe future got change get landed house can do this way
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Nothing to do with landed or not landed, you just need to plan properly.
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post Oct 26 2014, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 26 2014, 04:08 PM)
Condo management not allow simple hack and air con compressor got special place to put de.
So cannot just put next wall with indoor air con.
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You can use plaster ceiling sides to cover the piping.

QUOTE(ohman @ Oct 26 2014, 04:24 PM)
hi,

my house has this piping for aircon,

1. can we tell if this is for inverter?
2. Seems like there is a pipe for water outlet is missing/not available?

user posted image
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Looks like normal non inverter hmm.gif
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post Oct 26 2014, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(ohman @ Oct 26 2014, 04:37 PM)
i see, thank you.

then i would have to take a painful route to remove the pipe and replace with inverter one.
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Yup, but this time put a PVC pipe to it, seal it back and paint.
From next service onward, no more hacking works.
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post Oct 26 2014, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(silver88 @ Oct 26 2014, 05:41 PM)
Cover with plaster ceiling still need to hack the wall for go back down side because a lot of beam....cannot just straight go thought beam.
Not good for gas pipe to go up and down too much so i just do hack conseal in wall.
Just see the pic can know the pipe is inverter or not......  rclxub.gif
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Nope, the covered part should be the non removal part. Usually the connection point is the main concern on any air cond installation.
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post Oct 28 2014, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(smon80 @ Oct 28 2014, 08:25 PM)
Hi, I was quoted conceal paiping as below,

3 x 1.0 hp, 1 x 1.5 (R410) = 1k
1 x 2.0 hp = 300

The exact length not sure but is a lumpsum. Base on the site visit, the min conceal length is at least 6 ft per unit.

Aircon --> Daikin, installer Daikin authorized distributor
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Install a 1.5HP air cond only need rm150-200, including piping/wiring for the first 10ft.
2HP will be rm200-250, again for the first 10ft.
Above are including brackets.

 

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