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Conseal A/C piping cost pricing?, How much is the rate per ft.
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ozak
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Jul 2 2011, 09:58 AM
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jul 2 2011, 01:26 AM) inverter and non-inverter piping is different? Depend on the brand and the gas they use. It is not about the inverter. If that brand use normal gas r22 but inverter, the piping is normal only. While if that brand use r410 gas but inverter, than the pipe is bigger.
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ozak
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Jul 3 2011, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE(papaya2 @ Jul 2 2011, 11:07 PM) i did one 2hp (non-inverter) cost rm450 include well conseal job done by my contractor. total abt 15ft in my double terrace house, copper pipe start from living hall's wall till go up above plaster ceiling, then throught a drilled hole to above car porch ceiling and roof tile. include replace 1 pc of car porch ceiling w/o paint + pvc sealing for the roof tile. while the conseal water pipe go down along the living wall -> through a drilled hole of the front wall -> fencing wall -> drain. i think it is worth because a lot things need to do. Last time my inverter aircon con seal installation is about your price too. The work is same. I guess the price is reasonable.
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ozak
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Dec 18 2011, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 18 2011, 09:44 AM) This should not happen. Conceal will have no moisture unless is leaking water If you put your hand on the wall where the water pipe is, you can feel it cooler than others wall. That is how the wall get moisture. Specially if the conceal pipe is just at the wall surface. Not deep enough. I got to use primer paint to paint first. Than apply the actual paint. If not, the paint will fade away.
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ozak
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Dec 18 2011, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Dec 18 2011, 10:14 PM) Serious, that paint wil fade away? Yes. Very obvious. Cause at first I just use maxilite white as undercoat. Than ici pentalite ontop of it.
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ozak
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Dec 18 2011, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Jo_da48 @ Dec 18 2011, 10:32 PM) Ops...too later on this info now...less see what the outcome after use... No worry. This thing can be solve easily.
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ozak
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Dec 19 2011, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 19 2011, 10:04 AM) My master bedroom drain pipe was wrapped with the black thingy (ah, forgot what it called), same things it use for the copper. You can do that on the drain pipe. I only notice it last week. For the other area did not notice, but I don't feel cold on the wall with piping when we test the a/c for few hours. Maybe because it was conceal deep. It call insulation that prevent hot or cold from escape. My pvc drain pipe don't have this kind of wrap. I believe many didn't do that too. The aircon side short drain pipe should have this insulation.
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ozak
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Jan 13 2012, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(phoenix69 @ Jan 13 2012, 09:03 AM) I have installed 7 sets of concealed piping. Due to Budget not enuff, only getting 3 Air Cond. The balance air cond piping not used will have ugly piping and wires dangling from the wall. Any way or products that can cover these up ah??  Decorate it with some leaf and flower.
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ozak
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Apr 4 2012, 11:09 AM
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1 thing I don't understand is, for old practice, I see they separate the return hot gas copper pipe from the insulate cold gas copper pipe. For logic, it is correct way.
But nowaday, the hot and the cold copper pipe is insulate together. The hot gas pipe is insulate for what? It should disipate the heat out not to insulate the heat. I try to ask them, but can't give me the answer.
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ozak
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Nov 18 2012, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(Samyck @ Nov 18 2012, 11:07 AM) Hi, i have a few question here.. Anyone knows what the recommented distance of the aircon from the compressor unit to ensure its performance? Secondly, must the compressor unit placed in lower elevation than the aircon indoor unit? If not required, then im planning to run the piping close to my grd floor ceiling then cover int up by plaster ceiling.. Seeking for you guys opinion.. Cheers Each brand have it own spec. Check the manual. It sure got write the pipe distance and max height between indoor and outdoor unit.
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ozak
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Nov 26 2014, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Nov 25 2014, 06:32 PM) Please comment on my house conceal piping. [attachmentid=4232293] I'm so sad that the con broke my room/house beam. Is that serious, or just crack only? This is in the master bedroom and second floor. My house is DS intermediate. The crack layer is quite thick. If this beam is horizontal to your house, better check properly.
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ozak
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Nov 26 2014, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(smon80 @ Nov 26 2014, 10:50 AM) Hi , just done my conceal piping. But concern on the water leaking. They make hole on my concrete roof and lay the piping then cement it back. But not sure what cement they use but they said no worry no leaking. For the piping out from root top, can we use the silocon to seal the gap then apply the water proof on it? Why can't just hack the vertical wall and go through by the vertical wall ? 1 hole instead of 2 hole. You can just silicon seal the hole. But there is 1 problem. After some yrs, the insulation will start to crack due to expose to sun. (if that area is outside) And the leaking will start.
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ozak
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Nov 26 2014, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(smon80 @ Nov 26 2014, 01:46 PM) The ground floor ceiling height is similar as my car porch roof. So they cant go through vertical wall. silicon seal and plater with water proof? I haven go and check bcoz just done only. The black insulation that cover the pipe is a foam. It is soft and cannot stand to UV expose for many yrs. It will brittle and start to crack. The rain water is staying on the ground and not flowing fast away. If the pipe from the vertical wall, than the rain not easily sip in. You need to do additional thing to secure the water from leak in. Anyway the leak won't be that fast. Silicon + water proof paint can last longer. Very much depend on your skill. Actually for piping this way, there is a proper way to open the hole .
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ozak
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Nov 26 2014, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 26 2014, 09:04 PM) Silicon already cannot paint. Silicon and paint won't mix. Can la. Got some silicon that can paint. Brand bostead if not mistaken. Than paint it with PYE flexi seal. The whole insulation need to be paint also.
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ozak
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Nov 27 2014, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(weikee @ Nov 26 2014, 11:57 PM) If the black insulation is also in the concrete slab, good luck. That insulator over time will shrink and deform and will create opening for water to slip in. Definitely after some yrs.
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ozak
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Jan 17 2016, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Jan 17 2016, 10:56 AM) if next time any leaking or changes easy to repair compare to inside wall. correct? It depend how the installer run the piping and to where the outdoor unit place. You still need to conceal it after the piping comeout from the plaster ceiling. And terminate at the aircon. But piping inside the plaster ceiling don't need to be conceal. It is like no logic and cost you more to hide the piping inside the wall. While the piping can't be see inside the plaster ceiling. But 1 thing must be take note is the piping must be insulated properly without any pipe expose. Cause the condensation water will drip down to the plaster ceiling and spoil it. Later you can see some watermark on it.
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