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 SAMSUNG GALAXY S II Official thread V7, The ultimate Android super smartphone ??

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Eiraku
post Jul 1 2011, 09:29 AM

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FINALLY SenQ is selling. For folks even MORE worried about warranty than I am, thst is lol.

Anyway, pre-testing of medium usage batt drain w/o too much crap installed + undervolting -> 1h30 min = 15% gone. Now this is more like it!
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post Jul 1 2011, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 1 2011, 10:18 AM)
I already said I undervolt 75mA across board ie all levels. simple way and works well
you can readup user test at xda . so many combo. and all say is good. just test yourself. do not undervolt too much or you face freeze issues.
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Same here, -75mA across the board CPU and GPU. IO Scheduler is default. Less heat and slightly better battery life. Very stable too.

Tried -100 accross and the phone quickly locked up lol.

And about the SenQ warranty I can bet it's 18 months SME and the rest is SenQ. Please do correct me later if I'm wrong - rough estimate maa.
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post Jul 1 2011, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(BuFung @ Jul 1 2011, 12:47 PM)
wuu.. metal backcase...  tongue.gif
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Can dent. Do not want.

Anyway, I'm going through 5 hours and 30 mins of medium use edi and I still have 20%. Mission accomplished! Must have been WidgetLocker eating up my CPU cycles before this.

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post Jul 1 2011, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(nicregi @ Jul 1 2011, 01:27 PM)
Requote mine to show you mine. I don't know how to say usage lo.

Surf web about...1 hour plus, download via wifi for 10 minutes, download via 3G / H for about 20 minutes. This morning play navigation about 5-10 minutes, FB, twitter, news auto update 1 hour each.

Sounds...macam a lot right?  shocking.gif
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Nah, that's medium-heavy usage IMHO, kinda like mine.

Heavy would be non-stop surfing on the net for a few hours, multiple tabs, with all syncing turned on (3-4 hours on the SGS2). Brutal would be heavy + music playing on headphones and full brightness (2 hours tops?).

(incidentally the iP4 can do Heavy for about half a day, Brutal for about 5-6 hours. The N900 on the other hand doh.gif ).

That's on Litening ROM ka?

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post Jul 1 2011, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Assclown @ Jul 1 2011, 01:44 PM)
So you uninstalled WidgetLocker?
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No, I reflashed to VillainPhat 1.4 (was using VillainLite before). Thankfully I have TB to save my ass from a LOT of app reconfigurations.

Oh and my SGP stuff is in KL... Yay! Now havta go back and get it (from Lipis).

Best JuiceDefender? SetCPU profiles lol.

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QUOTE(Assclown @ Jul 1 2011, 02:13 PM)
you mean to say that on VillainLite, WidgetLocker was screwing your processer's cycles but now its working fine on VillainPhat?
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No. I reflashed and started from scratch. Have reinstalled nearly everything EXCEPT WL and freezing everything I do not need (though I left some stock Samsung stuff I didn't have in VL before, like Game Hub and Apps), and battery live has improved tremendously.

It's still too vague for me to make a clear cut conclusion, but right now, I "kinda" think WL+Executive Assist widget was preventing my SGS2 from going into deep sleep, thereby pushing me into deep sheet (phone died completely after 3-4 hours lol).


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Ayooma, SetCPU is putting my SGS2 into Sleeping Beauty mode lol (kenot wake up). Uncle Benny how you setup your profiles?

Had to bump values for my bottom half (500mhz / 200mhz) up by 50/25mA in Tegrak, afraid I'm starving my phone to death again.

*Shudder at the thought of how he killed his N900*

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QUOTE(cablesguy @ Jul 1 2011, 03:05 PM)
Anyone found a standby widget yet, using Widget Locker and its v good but it only locks...anyone?
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Widgetlocker + Executive Assistant. All the data you ever need. Problem is, it sucks batt like no tomorrow.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Jul 1 2011, 04:12 PM)
Repeat again : for Tegrak I just undervolt CORE Voltage  75mV across all levels 200 Mhz to 1200 Mhz. Don't touch/change any of the Internal voltage figures

Setcpu : I set minimum 500 Mhz ; DON'T set it at 200 Mhz - phone might not wake up.
For all profiles this is what I set : Highest , Lowest, % priority
Battery < 30 % : 800, 500, 95
Display off : 800, 500, 90
Temp > 45 degree : 800, 500, 100
Charging : 800, 500, 80
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No wonderla my phone died. Will it still enter deep sleep with those settings though?

On the other hand, I'm skeptical G+ can be more than just another Orkut, but you never know. Send me an invite someone? eirakkun[at]gmail[dot]com.

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post Jul 2 2011, 12:11 AM

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With some judicious hacking, controlled use and some luck. I've finally gotten somewhere.

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3h 33m and I'm only down by 21% battery. On 3G, all notifications on, medium use. Awesome.
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QUOTE(sparrowed @ Jul 2 2011, 12:36 AM)
= =" since version6 of this thread you still bringing this battery issue here, i think you need to check with Samsung and get an RMA. By the way, apart from phone usage, your location also plays a role in draining your battery, thats esp true when your area have weaker 3G/2G signal.
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Lol, yeah. I guess. But if things remain like this sure no need to RMA - its practically a nonissue now. I guess I just needed to tweak things abit and change the way I work with the device.

I mean, with all the crap I run on the thing, I'm pleasently surprised it can do even 10 hours on standby.

And yes, this is on VillainRom 1.4, but with KE4 modem vs my old KF2 one. I need to test more, but calls seem a tad less clear on KE4 tho.
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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Jul 2 2011, 04:31 AM)
Anyway to disable push mail while on data connection but at the sometime enable push mail when on wifi?
Didn't see this posted on front page.

What I mean is: switch on wifi-mail is pushed in.
Switch to 3G, no mail is pushed into the inbox-have to manually fetch.

I just got hammered 3 hours ago when I enabled 3G to check something online only to be bombarded with 2 emails, deducting rm3 from my credit within seconds! sweat.gif doh.gif


Added on July 2, 2011, 4:33 am
I had a similiar issue.
Went in to watch transformers with a 95% charge, came out of the cinema and the battery was TOTALLY FLAT! wtf!?
Wifi was off,phone was in silent mode...dunno how that happened
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Cinemas are now blocking signals somehow? Either that or the construction of the cinema block signal and as we all know, low signal is a battery killer.
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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Jul 2 2011, 09:35 AM)
and that's the reason we are getting smartphone for. as long as it can last the period we need it the most which is from morning till evening, i reli dun mind how many percent it drops. wat's the point for getting a SGSII, den scared of charging everyday then off wifi, off 3g, lowest brightness lvl, off gps etc, den y dun u get a budget phone dat can last u for one month instead? cool2.gif
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LOL, so very true. Here the great idiot (or messiah, depending on your allegience) Jobs got the right idea by forcefully limiting stuff on the idiotphone. YES, we can do much less stuff on it, but on the other hand we can do it longer.

Android manufacturers on the other hand, is currently engaged in a war of specs, with little regard for battery life. It's like the Palm Winmo Symbian war all over again.

What they need to do is optimize. Optimize the OS for the hardware, the hardware to the OS. Problem is for us, right now its up to US to optimize everything, which is NOT the ideal situation. We should be TWEAKING, not OPTIMIZING all the time.

But with everyone locked in rat race for survival these days due to new Android phones popping up every day, I don't think any manufacturer has the time to. Or they might just be lazy or afraid to front the losses of increased R&D. OR they're busy focusing on other areas, like looks (the SGS2 could have been 2x thicker with a much huger battery and I would have still bought it).

AND Google need to put slightly more stringent conditions for an app to be accepted in the market. Apps that crap out your battery need to at least be labeled as such, and badly coded apps should just be booted out. Not Apple style dictatorship, just more control.

In the end, the greatest thing holding back the green robot platform rite now, IMHO, is NOT fragmentation (which is, contrary to what I was told to think prior to this is very much a non issue), and it's not even the Market situation (it's really not THAT bad, it's no App Store but it's more than enough).

It's optimization and balance.
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QUOTE(venicelim @ Jul 2 2011, 09:42 AM)
I wana buy the OTG cable.
But just wana confirm, by connecting to thumbdrive, will my pone kena virus?
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UNLESS you have been collecting Android viruses from other computers - which is impossible - no.

The os is different. You CAN get autoload resident viruses if you use the SGS2 as a mass memory device, even then it would only affect other Windows computers you plug into - the phone wont be affected in any way.
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QUOTE(manx @ Jul 2 2011, 10:58 AM)
i use titanium backup to wipe & uninstall the maps and streep view. currently trying to move the file using super manager, es file explorer & android file manager all failed sad.gif

how to make the directory RW permission?
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Use ROOT explorer. There's a button to toggle mount r/w up near the notti bar.
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So, quick reviews are in order.

S-Line Grey Translucent - Cheap. Fit is okay and cutouts are acceptable. Side patterns are a great plus, as they add oodles of grip. The semi matte back means that it's not really a fingerprint magnet, and there's just enough transparent bits to show off the back of your SGS2. Buttons are stiff and hard to press though. Material likely to yellow over time. USB port a bit cramped, did not fit my USB-OTG wire without some adjustments.

Epikcase Jet Black - Cheap and generally similar to the above, except that it's glossy black and attracts fingerprints like moths to an open flame. The plain black feels and looks a tad boring. Has the the cramped USB issue too.

SGP Ultra Capsule - Except for two glaring faults and the fact that it's a fingerprint magnet, this is a work of art. Cutouts are examplary and the glittery finish feels exclusive. Buttons are super easy to use too. The USB port cutout is roomy and can fit everything.

Now, for the bad part - the thing is loose. Not so loose that your SGS2 will fall off, but if you're a like me, the looseness can be felt clearly and it WILL drive you nuts. Secondly, the lanyard hole is tiny and a hassle to use (I had to mutilate mine). Also, the corner hole is a disaster waiting to happen.

BUT, keep in mind we ARE technically using cases for the wrong phone as far as SGP is concerned. I'll be eagerly waiting for the world spec SGS2 cases from SGP.

SGP Ultra Optics - This is a WONDERFUL SP. It's even better then my old PowerSupport Matte on my old i4. It's darned clear and you never really see fingerprints on your screen. It's also matte enough to not reflect your own face while you're typing.

BUT, keep in mind that if you're the type of person to type while looking REALLY close at your screen (or just the particular type), the ultra optics have a very, very fine grid pattern to it, which is probably the microlense array itself.

On our not so retina screens, it's not really THAT noticeable however.

Samsung Battery and Charger - Samsung original korean spec batteries, with near field communications written on the back - and no it doesn't magically enable NFC lol. The battery charger also doubles as a stand, nice. I got from exportprive.com.
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QUOTE(Fallenangelz @ Jul 2 2011, 08:20 PM)
checked the website, n found dat the price there is damn cheap!!! btw bro how much is the delivery charges?
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About rm20 ish IINM. Buy a lotta stuff sure worth it.
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QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Jul 2 2011, 08:44 PM)
with enabling setcpu while screen off ... didnt put my sgs2 in deep sleep ... & cannot wake up.

to see ur cpu behavior ... pls use CPU Spy ---> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.bvalosek.cpuspy

BTW a tip to forumers if u find ur android dev hangs or cannot wake up ... to reboot just press Power + Vol Up till it reboot itself.

Since there is no LED indication ... use NoLED apps -->https://market.android.com/details?id=com.led.notify
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Just don't set your bottom end to 200mhz, set it to 500mhz, it will still deep sleep.

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QUOTE(ian913 @ Jul 3 2011, 01:18 AM)
i just ordered one sgp ultra capsule from ebay... heard u say it is loose i a bit worried sweat.gif
coz i m perfectionist as well....
mind to post video or pic to show how loose is it? thanks
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It doesn't LOOK loose, it just FEELS loose. Get an Epikcase and you'll understand what I mean. Thankfully I have a lot of old Gelaskins sitting around, pasted some on the insides and it feels better.

The S-Line case might feel better but it looks cheap compared to the Ultra Cap.

I can confirm that the SGS2 gets hot while on wifi though, try touching the right side under the cam or the entire upper left side near the front cam.

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