Yeah I'm curious too. Has anyone tried both the Cricri+ and the E17?
And no, E17 gives much stronger output than the thin-sounding E7. I've tried both. E7 is really bad in comparison.

Erm, if ipod classic?

As mentioned before, you don't need the E7 or E17 if it is solely for your iPod. E11 will do good.

Hmmm, then may I know e7 and e10 is good for what?

Taking digital signal out of a computer via USB.

If you're planning to use it with ipod only, then get the e11.
If you're using it with your comp only, get the e10.

If you want to use it with both, get the e7 (although I don't recommend it). Better still, just get the e17 and solve the dilemma once and for all

E17?
Hmmm, read some reviews bout it, I think i will stick to e11 first la since e17's price is doubled than that of e11
No money wei.. I will start funding and at the same time, go Jaben to audition them.
Oh yea, e11 and hippo box+, which one is better? Or they are good at different things?

Aww you can go Jaben to audition.
Hope local here can import the E17 and Cri Cri+ so I can choose which one I can go with...

Simple, DAC = Sound card.

E11, hands down. unless you find them too powerful for your IEMs even on low gain output.

Go audition both at Jaben, and tell me if you decide on the Hippobox+. Give you special discount lol

This post has been edited by hebe0330: Jun 27 2012, 01:05 PM

how about govibe martini hoho

now just to add, get a decent LOD (line out dock) and then connect it tru the amp would give u a cleaner sound than from your 3.5mm build in jack.

if u already know this and have one then disregard my statement

That's at a different price range altogether

So it means e11 is much better than hippo box in your opinion? Sorry, i am not really sure what u r talking

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Added on June 27, 2012, 11:51 pmAnd may I know whats the difference between t-muso and cmoy?

This post has been edited by em0kia: Jun 27 2012, 11:51 PM

to me. YES. Fiio E11 is the one to go.

The e11 packs a lot of power, u can never go full volume with these because just by turning the knob little by little can get really high volume.

Also, the EQ settings are simple to tweak with, if you basshead, u will definitely love it.

Fiio e11 to me is darn powerful, drives my headphones and IEMs to become real bass monsters. battery life also not bad. can always last from 10-12 hours la. sometimes even more.

From all your posts to date, it really looks like you can't tell the difference of a DAC from an Amp Do make an effort to Google for the relevant definitions and applications.

T-Muso is a DAC while the CMoy is an Amp

I read reread reread a few times adi andmy understanding towards DAC and Amp still so-so oni Can the t-muso became a portable DAc? it has the big big usb connector input at one side.. Cmoy will be just nice

DAC produces pure audio signal while amp amplies the amplitude of audio signal, making the volume of the song larger.

What is your definition of portable or small enough to carry around with your lappy or with in-built battery power to work with your DAPs

Without a good understanding how DAP, DAC and Amp works individually as well as a chain, you can be here posting for the next couple of months and get no where.



This post has been edited by E1 - AKG: Jun 28 2012, 02:28 PM

what do you understand so far for a DAC and an amp? i'll try to help

Correct for the Amp, but not for the DAC.

DAC stands for digital to analogue converter. so it pretty much does what it's named for. converting digital signals to analogue signals. a dac is required for converting data (files, cd signals) into analogue (audible audio) signals.

a digital file in your hdd needs to be processed via a DAC before the signal can be amplified by an amplifier.

sound cards actually consist of both a DAC and an amp.

Yeah fiio e11 is better unless you find it too big/strong compared to the hippobox. And you should concentrate on amps only. Forget the DAC part for now as you're only playing from your ipod

all sound card is DAC...but not all DAC is sound card...right?