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post Jun 27 2011, 11:12 PM, updated 15y ago

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Hi guys, actually i have allocate some a budget for my renovation project however due to the fact that i do not knnow anything about renovation which now i learn much more in the forum i found out that my budget was slightly low than the things i wanna do.. it's like around 30% higher then my budget..

my friend told me to source for loan which there is reno loan by OCBC bank given blr -0%, i'm not sure if this is a wise move.. i'm in dilema of the below...


A. Cut out some part of the work that is not so necessary and also some thing to be postone like KC or porch reno (inclde the awrning, gate and bla bla bla) and do it in later days when is financial fit (6months or so ) shakehead.gif

B. Just go take a loan, 1 time kasi all habis and move in happily however borne my self to few years of struggling paying off house installment, car installament, cc easy payment for furniture and now the reno loan doh.gif

which mostly those done reno or have experience to advice if that would be a wise mmove to take a reno loan ? or does anyone really rely on reno loan ?? hmm.gif sweat.gif
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post Jun 28 2011, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(CHIP CN @ Jun 27 2011, 11:16 PM)
beli barang sendiri upah org pasang... jimat byk gak....
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banyak sudah beli sendiri lol, tiles, WC, Door, Window, Grill

QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 28 2011, 12:07 AM)
Work base on what you can afford. Don't be the bank employee for too long. Is it possible to stay and save, do the reno later?

Another method, if budget allow, do the structure work, piping and electrical. Furniture just get a bed and A/C enough lah. later only build or buy.
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Ya this is what i think also, actually i have excluded fittings means i will only buy bed and ac with a fridge that's all, my tv set, sofa and the rest come later but budget still escalating like mad cow cry.gif

QUOTE(Serofax @ Jun 28 2011, 01:56 AM)
agree with Wei Kee.

anything you wanna change for the sake of "looking NICE" can wait =D

do the things you NEED 1st then only move on to the things you LIKE.

unless you're comfortable paying the addition loan amount each month. But seeing you set your budget low, you may need to sweat abit paying off the addition loan right?

so at the end, if take loan, you get your dream house, but you probably will not be relaxing in your home with a clear mind, knowing you have to feed the bank more money come month end @_@

work within your means...i have been there, and having to pay off debts each month does put alot of stress on one's mind and body >_<
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my friend tell me, work so stress up d come back wanna c a nice and comfy house, if not come back see patching here and there lagi stress doh.gif

QUOTE(bhtan @ Jun 28 2011, 04:24 AM)
You should consider cutting out those are not urgently needed (eg. Auto gate, nice furniture, LED TV, etc) and see if you can fit into your budget.  If you estimate now that you are 30% over budget then you are going to be even worse after you start the work. It is not a good idea to incur debt for renovation.
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Ya maybe porch wanna turn a side first but if house reno nice nice but porch area doh.gif lagi the normal gate like want to drop like tat dunno can tahan long or not hahaha

QUOTE(zeese @ Jun 28 2011, 10:08 AM)
it you happen to desperately need fast cash, one of the easier way is to get cash from credit cards.. it's like personal loan also..  Well, i'm not recommending you this thing, but just keep it in mind as a backup plan B, or C..
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shocking.gif u sure take fast cash for CC ? i think that would be the worst doh.gif interest over 10%

QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Jun 28 2011, 10:09 AM)
Start to DIY on stuff that are "not too hard" to master.. for eg. painting.
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only painting can DIY, what else can DIY ? (not furniture) reno thing how to DIY ?

QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 28 2011, 10:37 AM)
Try to source more contractors and make more comparisons. Hard works really need if you want to get cheap and good stuffs and believe there are such things.
Indeed renovation is not that kind expensive as due to nowadays contractors hijack the price so high and cut throat the consumers. Try to get friends, relatives to introduce to you which you may get better price discount.
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yes i did source a lots of quotation, the ranging from highest to lowest is about 10k difference however i also afraid to take lowest cox scare quality problem later sweat.gif pening + mostly contractor terms i also dun understand then the pricing if itemized sure takde 1 is lowest for all, some is this higher but another thing lower then others

QUOTE(phythia79 @ Jun 28 2011, 10:45 AM)
just do what is needed/basic. then slowly do reno in stages.

Pls pls don't take the cash from credit card..as i think the interest is higher than other loans.
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yalo i also scare suddenly ask me withdraw cash from CC shakehead.gif

QUOTE(IvanLai @ Jun 28 2011, 10:46 AM)
as i know OCBC reno loans call "top-up",

Example,
i bought the house 300k, now market value 400k,
so i can borrow 100k as my reno loans.
i heard the blr is same as the normal housing loans ( -2.1% nowadays)

to avoid struggling in future.  rclxub.gif  not recommend to take extra loans. smile.gif
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Ya i know, however i take loan from allianz they dun have this loan, then source for OCBC Reno Loan which is BLR - 0%, if i borrow from them is different la

QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Jun 28 2011, 11:41 AM)
When I did my reno I list down which things are important, look at my budget and decide which can wait. I dont sacrifice quality for the sake of getting everything done. My car porch i only did it one year after I move in (cost me ~20k).
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Ya i plannign to postpone the car porch for worst situation, it would mostly save 10k + for porch (Gate, Auto Gate, Bell, Armour Cable, Porch tilling, Rebuild wall with mail box)

but 30% is more than 10k + doh.gif kitchen cabinet got idea can make later ? cox some advice me that if KC come later problem will occur as contractor dunno where to set up the point (M&E works) and the piping thing.. any idea is this ? this will further save close to 10k



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post Jun 28 2011, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 28 2011, 09:15 PM)
have you tried withdrawing your EPF?
under no circumstances should you use your credit card or borrow from your friendly ah long. the interest will kill you.
So, try to priorities your renovation work.
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ya will withdraw but actually was working only for 3 years and starting pay very suck so manage to withdraw 8k only doh.gif dunno can use for what purpose hahaha maybe buy aircond and fan finish d lol sweat.gif ah long for sure is a no no shakehead.gif credit card u mean easy pay or cash withdrawer ? for sure i wont use cash withdrawer but plan to use easy pay for my tv, sofa and the rest..

QUOTE(ezonemy @ Jun 28 2011, 09:48 PM)
can withdraw EPF for reno meh? i dont think so lo.
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can, once u borrow loan, ask ur lawyer to prepare u the document can last for 3 years meaning if i dun withdraw now and 3 years later only withdraw i can take more money still for other purpose as long as u tell them is to off set the bank loan they wont care d tongue.gif

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 28 2011, 10:15 PM)
don't have to say for reno.. can withdraw to reduce loan amount
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correct rclxms.gif

anyone care to share more advice ? if i wanna prioritize my job, then what can be delay other then the porch area ?? Kitchen cabinet can ma ?? hahaha
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post Jul 3 2011, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ Jul 1 2011, 05:41 PM)
got allocate some money to pay gangster for protection money? If your housing area is new area then most probably there will be gangster that will come over to collect renovation "fee". They usually ask for around 5k.
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What the... Seriously shakehead.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif 5k shocking.gif


Added on July 3, 2011, 10:34 pm
QUOTE(trinityz @ Jul 1 2011, 05:21 PM)
In chinese there is a saying "if you don't have big head, don't wear a big hat" or something like that lar. my translation sucks. anyway, you get my point. most of the item you are doing it for the sake of luxury and not necessity. don't have enough money? skip the alarm, auto-gate, kitchen cabinet (why are u in the kitchen btw) and stuff like that. Those stuff you can always add on the next time you have spare cash. looking at your above post, i can see that you even swap your card for furniture so basically it's all "hutang". You'll be the slave for the bank for the next 10 years or so.

You case reminds me of my friend, he bought a single storey terrace house and he doesn't have much spare cash to do renovation but he insist to go all the way to install customize shoe rack, tv cabinet, wardrobe, alarm, expensive furniture, 5 freaking aircond! (3 on the rooms, 1 at the hall, 1 at the kitchen) and etc. Ended up emptying his bank account and have to go to the extent borrowing from his mother, few times. Seriously, it's not worth doing

Moving in into a new should be fun and joyful. Not stress and sad
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talk to my uncle yesterday, he actually advice me to go for bank reno loan, take 10 years also nevermind as it could be pay up earlier if financialy capable that time, as per him he done his house reno, he experience doing things in stages as specially once he move in.. more hassle and unconfortable also according to him he end up paying more by doing stages renovation...

example he said he did not change all bathroom door, by times 1 years plus the wooden door bottom rosak d, then he change new plastic / alluminuim door i forget d.. but the wall surrounding the door is damage hence need to get ppl come touch up occur extra cost and then he do kitchen cabinet after a year.. so many habuk flying around the house sitted at the sofa and here there, come back everyday cough non stop, he did complete his car porch but he told me dun do car porch at later stages, as u move in when they do car porch, meaning u dun have a front door to secure your self as it make took weeks to complete hence ur door is wide open for theif and buglar sweat.gif doh.gif

as per this thread 90% advice me not into extra loan and cut item or do on later stage, but a few friend / family tell me go ahead some even say where got ppl reno use saving cash ? cox he said after purchase house D/p + lawyer fees where got extra cash for reno, he say nowdays mostly all go for bank reno loan, is this true ? sigh pening la this thing.. doh.gif

This post has been edited by Kelvin5717: Jul 3 2011, 10:34 PM
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post Jul 9 2011, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Serofax @ Jun 29 2011, 01:57 AM)
Kelvin,

coming back to a house with patches more stress, or paying off debts more stress? LOL normally, or mostly ppl would go for the latter.

anything to do with $$ = stress/worries. otherwise we all wouldnt be working our socks off to make more money to clear our debts haha.

but your call man. alot of suggestions given, follow whichever you feel comfortable with smile.gif
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HAHAHA i also dunno, so far car is cash therefore i seldom hutang ppl or bank dunno the stress level can go up to where but i did stay before at a low cost rented flat and the experience is disaster hahaha i move out after 1 month lol doh.gif

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jun 29 2011, 12:21 PM)
rent out those rooms that you are not using. Then can generate monthly income... later can proceed with your Phase 2, 3, 4.... biggrin.gif
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rent out can earn how much ? hahaha double story tak laku 1 la the most 1k per month, my condo rental is 800 lol after minus left 200 dunno save until when... doh.gif

QUOTE(escargo75 @ Jul 1 2011, 01:44 PM)
Right never never agreed to pay one lump sum payment. Start paying him small money like RM500-RM1000 then as you see him progress, pay him accordingly. Off -course he had to agreed with this kind of arrangement first before he start. Like my case he agreed for progressive payment, so play safe for me, if he screw up anything or not demanding advance payment, I can stop him anytime. At least I only pay whatever he had done and those not done can always get a new contractor to finish it up. Not all contractors willing to do that especially so for Indon worker.  thumbup.gif
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hmm i plan to tell contractor like this.. i pay them 1k as earnest payment, then i seperated things into few stages as below;

Kitchen: complete all extension and relocating of ground floor toilet with table top and all flooring tile = then pay as per quotation itemized
Living : complete all tiling and staircase work = then pay
plumbing & eletricity : all point done = then pay
plaster ceiling : all done then pay

izzit ok to suggest like this to the contractor ?

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 4 2011, 09:22 AM)
@ Kelvin5717,

Everyone here can just give advice basing what they perceive to be correct. It is only yourself that would know better. You would know your actual financial situation and thus should be in a better position to decide for yourself.

Hope you make the right decision.. biggrin.gif
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ya hahaha i rethink few days d i think i will go with NO-SLAVERY-FOR-BANK right now hahaha i will work within my budget and also got a soft loan from my brother for extra 10k, even thou my budget is escalate to 30k therefore i will cut 20k works.. need to work on my home works tongue.gif

QUOTE(gjohn @ Jul 4 2011, 09:50 AM)
wait can..but pricing of materials keep on rising..so how??
this year say cost of reno rm20K?so cut budget short..then wait 2-3 months time..prices go up...then delay again..huhu
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hahaha actually i think the same, but i think KC can wait kot hmm
QUOTE(weikee @ Jul 4 2011, 10:14 AM)
Spend all money till the max, up to the nose. Anything happen how?

Pay Cut, Need urgent money? Car need repair?

Like many advice you hear, spend what you can afford. Don't burn future money.
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my car battery just kaput last sunday.. extra 200 sigh

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 4 2011, 10:20 AM)
bottom line... Never be your financial slave
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post Jul 10 2011, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(shila83 @ Jul 9 2011, 11:05 PM)
Hi.
Im a i/d deco and specialist contractor. We can discuss some sort of way to suit your budget. Our price is cheaper than market price. Maybe i can help you out to achieve your dream house.Please call us for details. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Thank you.

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Added on July 9, 2011, 11:15 pmhi,
Im a i/d deco and specialist contractor. I noticed about your constraint budget . Maybe i can help you out to achive your dream house. coz our price is cheaper than market price. Please call us for details. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Thank you.

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ID = Interior Designer ? cost lagi banyak shocking.gif ?
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post Jul 11 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(lazzy_dogg @ Jul 11 2011, 12:16 AM)
for me.... all wetworks, electrical, plumbing, plaster must do first
then get carpentry, furnitures, appliances by importance
things like wallpaper, nice curtains.... can be later..... make ur home an ongoing project..... then at least you will always have something new in the house.... biggrin.gif
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ya but my wet works, electrical, plumbing, plaster, tile already exceed budget hahah that is my problem ~ now door also expensive shakehead.gif

need to change toilet door, bi-fold alu door = RM330.00 x 5 untis
Autogate = 6k
Autogate machine = 1.5k
Safety door front = 3.8k
Safety door back = 3.5k

i going crazy with this number rclxub.gif


QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 11 2011, 09:20 AM)
Actually there is no harm in getting them to give you a quote. I believe there is are no obligation on your part. Just make it clear from te outset.  smile.gif 
At least from your discussion and their quote, you will have a better idea and feel of the reno work that is suitable for your need and financial situation.
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hmm true will do, just that normal thinking when it involve ID it's usually 10% higher as per discusion with other lowyat members ^^
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post Jul 12 2011, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(Serofax @ Jul 12 2011, 01:01 AM)
back security door need 3.5k? thats abit exp isnt it?

anyone can recommend good place to get alu bi-fold doors with glass?
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ya it's Janus brand, saw 2 of their shop 1 at mahkota cheras and 1 at puchong both same price shakehead.gif

alu bi-fold not glass i got quot Rm330 each include installation, not sure if it's a good price or not hmm.gif
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post Jul 15 2011, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Jul 12 2011, 04:04 PM)
Is autogate really needed now? if not just lose it for now. Rather than buying the safety door might as well opt with normal door but install dead bolts plus security like ADT . If not you're bleeding everywhere man.
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Hmm, my original door is for a small door, if i dun change the auto gate i shall remain it the same (1 car entrances) but when the time i need to do the autogate then i need to break the pillar and make it wider, that time at least 3 - 1 week my house takde door ? macam mana shocking.gif

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 12 2011, 04:28 PM)
For the auto gate, can just lay the cables first. Later when have more budget after year end bonus/ strike lottery, can install. Not messy.
Better to KIV those items that can be added on later.
Otherwise, before you can really enjoy your house, you already bleeding like nobody business  smile.gif
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how bout pillar ? also 1 big problem shakehead.gif now already bleeding like monkey ~

QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 12 2011, 04:34 PM)
auto gate can install later... for me it wasn't compulsory items for a house and just a "display items" to outsider... tongue.gif perhaps invest it on security alarm system instead as it more "useful" compare to auto gate...
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Alarm system also cost 6k, 3k plus for 1 x dome + 2 IR, 3k plus for alarm system... by the way is this cctv require ? hmm.gif thought just give the normal alarm saja

QUOTE(kelvyn @ Jul 12 2011, 04:38 PM)
If budget not enough at the moment, could always just install the alarm wires first. Then install the alarm later. Installing the alarm later is also not messy. But, if your area is a new area, then may be better to install first. All depends on your budget.
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QUOTE(Erein_nic @ Jul 13 2011, 12:51 AM)
If really have no money to do basic stuff like plumbing, electrical etc etc, maybe you can consider taking loan, at least amount is not that much. But other "luxury" items, nice furniture, auto-gate etc etc, just do when you got budget la bro. New house, but covered in debt, very not syok.  blush.gif
For myself, I just did everything necessary when move in, forgo the nice TV cabinets, coffee table etc etc and upgrade them when my financial is more stable smile.gif And the best part is, is like every month got new stuffs to look at  biggrin.gif
But security IMO should always come first. New house, if get break in (touch wood), hancur habis dream house (own exp)  sweat.gif

Good luck!
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Chun ! i like the feeling of "every month got new stuffs to loo ak" hahhahaa i already forgo Kitchen Cabinet, Tv Cabinet, Build in wardrobe and featured wall... but still bleeding cry.gif

QUOTE(glamour @ Jul 13 2011, 06:05 PM)
ah long bukit beruntung..
keke
go to bank take personal loan..
easy...

bi fold...rm 280 to rm 300
you can get d..
since u got 5 unit
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mana boleh dapat Rm280.00 ? tak jumpa le ? got contact / address ??


 

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