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 ACCA V7, Global Body for Professional Accountants

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post Jul 13 2011, 11:00 PM

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sry for wrong info

the early bird discount will be only GBP81 after discount
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post Jul 15 2011, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(~Mew~ @ Jul 14 2011, 01:41 PM)
I saw you post asking the same questions in Mr Spencer's wall lol. Its PER talk right? Theres this talk about PER talk given in Sentral last year. This year in Evergreen huh.
Hows the registration going?
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blush.gif what's ur name on fb? tongue.gif

he did repeat my question in his P5 class

he asked people not to expect anything sweat.gif

free registration on 6pm in Evergreen
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post Jul 16 2011, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(~Mew~ @ Jul 15 2011, 07:21 PM)
J.... XD

Oh...swt. Maybe he is trying to emphasize on it again. Thats why. Oic.
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lol...they did prepare fried bee hoon singapore style, sandwiches and smtg else
which I did not eat at all
cos i ate b4 i went there doh.gif

by the way the PER thing is really complicated sweat.gif

p/s: so many J le...can more specific ah? blush.gif


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post Jul 21 2011, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(TendouSouji @ Jul 21 2011, 06:19 PM)
Oh mai god it took me 20 mins to figure out the correct answer for a T1 question... And i'm having T1 T2 exams this weekend.. Hope everything will be okay = =" Any last minute study material/technique to share?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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last minute technique - RELAX biggrin.gif
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post Jul 21 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Yanngel @ Jul 21 2011, 10:51 PM)
Facing dilemma on which 2 optional papers to choose and so hoping to get some precious suggestions from fellow seniors... =(

Actually Im planning to go into audit line after graduate.. So does it add value to my resume if im taking p7 - AAA?? Or actually it makes no difference on which paper im taking as long im able to pass them and get my ACCA qualifications??

And, is it not encouraged to take P4 - AFM if my F9 is not excellent?
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doesnt matter as long as u pass
if u take p7
u might get more understanding thou
and p4 is very very hard...canot compare to f9 totally

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post Jul 22 2011, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(Yanngel @ Jul 22 2011, 12:40 PM)
what you said did make sense.. Very helpful.. Thankyou..! =)

emm.. Another thing is regarding P5, which i heard that it is the easiest paper to pass, had u heard bout it??
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QUOTE(Xeniouz @ Jul 22 2011, 02:48 PM)
the reason P4 is often regarded as a killer paper is because of the previous examiner who sets the questions.. he is already retired by ACCA - i'm not sure when.. but i think in these few sittings it should be easier even though it is still difficult..

for P5, it is like  P3 + F5.. from December 2010 onwards it is a theory based paper instead of computational.. questions could be based on your previous papers' knowledge.. i read the examiner's report and he said we should be confident enough to apply P3 and F5 knowledge in P5.. at the moment not many past year questions which are relevant could be attempted - only June 2011 and December 2010 (i think).. i might be wrong though.. u have to check through the ACCA website to see the questions and suggested answers for yourself..
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for me i dun care
i just wan choose the paper easier to pass


QUOTE(rose91 @ Jul 22 2011, 05:44 PM)
Hi, i wanna ask,i'm currently studing cat in ptpl college in penang.
I want to further my studies in kl, which college did u guys recommend for me..........
I'm thinking of going to Sunway College,,, 

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why wan to go KL when u can finish in Penang?
if go sunway
u better prepare a load of money
just heard from Spencer that sunway OBU is around RM3k
now got pre OBU
but duno how much
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post Jul 22 2011, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(notmycupoftea @ Jul 22 2011, 10:35 PM)
like the cheapest i heard for Sunway OBU is around RM4k, sometimes up to RM5k.
KSA students already have to pay RM3k+ for the OBU.
College Bandar is the cheapest i've heard, around RM1.8k.
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really? Sentral here only need to pay RM650 laugh.gif
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post Jul 22 2011, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(notmycupoftea @ Jul 22 2011, 11:02 PM)
what???!!! mentor fees woh!!! RM650??!?!!
how can that be possible??!!

then what's the pass rate for the OBU in Sentral?
in KL u can hear the lecturers said "100% pass rate" for OBU sleep.gif
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i din take but it's RM650 as told by Spencer on wed night during P5 class smile.gif

p/s:correction...it's RM750 as im talking with Spencer right now via FB chat wink.gif

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post Jul 23 2011, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(Xeniouz @ Jul 23 2011, 12:59 AM)
no offence but a professional qualification is never like an ordinary business degree even if without P7.. there is a valid reason on why P7 is an optional paper..

the countries which require P7 to obtain ACCA practising certificate are UK, Republic of Ireland & Cyprus only.. and you have to take the specific variant of P7 for these countries.. for other countries, ACCA is silent on whether you should take P7 or not..

UK, ROI & Cyprus

Other parts of the world

nevertheless it is still advisable to take P7 if you intend to go for audit.. usually the recommended combination would be:
a. P6 & P7 - if you are sure that you want to enter audit/taxation field forever
b. P4 & P7 - you will have the choice of entering investment banking/ audit
c. P4 & P5 - if you do not wish enter audit at all (but some audit firms still do hire these candidates)
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how bout p5 & p7?
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post Jul 23 2011, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(Xeniouz @ Jul 23 2011, 01:56 AM)
i think p5 and p7 is still okay.. when ur cv have p7, at least the employer knows that u have some knowledge in auditing.. audit is always a well sought after skill.. for p5 i'm not sure what value it will add to your cv..

unlike p5 and p6 which is a very odd combination.. p6 subject to changes in taxation laws making it quite irrelevant if u do not keep up to date as often as possible..

but in the end, working experience counts the most.. after coming out for work, the skills that you have developed will be the most crucial factor for success..
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well...in my tuition provider
they dun provide p4

and i was exempted from F6
so i din take P6 because I don't have the basic sad.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(student2 @ Jul 23 2011, 02:19 AM)
FYI the ACCA qualification without OBU is just a certificate; I would say that a certificate is even more inferior than a diploma.

ACCA is an institute not a university; therefore they cannot confer degrees.

OBU was introduced due to this reason among others.

Alot of local accounting institutes are slowly derecognizing ACCA because ACCA graduates lack reputable degrees.

Most of those who have reputable degrees would op to take ICAEW. ICAEW have more MRA's compared to ACCA.

There are reputable business degrees which are superior compared to ACCA's certificate; some to the extent that it is immediately recognized by a local accounting institute (i.e. NUS and NTU business/accounting degrees recognized by the CPA SG).

ACCA qualification is a mixture of business knowledge and accounting knowledge. Accounting knowledge is also part of business knowledge.

Most business degrees have accounting as a core requirement but not Audit. To study for ACCA is to study for Audit. Without Audit it's just like any other business degree's syllabus without the status.

So make sure you study audit because ultimately that is what you are taking ACCA for; to have the extra edge to practise as an auditor. I have seen alot people who takes ACCA and think otherwise; ultimately they drop the ACCA qualification and get involved in a regular commercial role (i.e. sales).

P/s: Don't ask me to cite my information as most of it is available in the respective accounting institutes, the internet and some deduction based on tacit knowledge. Also, my info might not be accurate to the dot so don't take it as a gospel truth.
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i only have adv dip
and i dun have much interest in audit sweat.gif

1 of the reason why i took acca instead of degree
was because of family financial issue
I oso want to have fun in degree life
but situation does not permit me to
however, degree or watever is just a piece of paper
ur ability is the most important part

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post Jul 27 2011, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(rose91 @ Jul 26 2011, 07:38 PM)
tanks for the reply
but do we must take OBU to finish our ACCA?
for me i cant sit at home study tats why i keep failing my paper, tink if i stay at hostel can study harder.....
my few frens also studing at sunway... i'm really confused.... i want to study at sunway but the fees for ACCA is rm28000+
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no need
OBU is only if u want a degree
as insurance in case u dun pass ACCA

but not really accepted as compared to other degree
and u need gd marks to get into 1st class (67 marks and above if not mistaken)


for me, if u cant study at home
when u go to hostel
u make new frens there and will go out as well
just depend on ur attitude and determination
however it's up to u
even in KL
not really suggest sunway
I'd say go for different places for different papers

u might ask KL ppl
cos i can only advise bout penang ACCA tuition provider
as for fees for ACCA in penang
it should depends on your exemptions

and if u go sunway
they dun provide u textbooks like GTG, BPP, Kaplan
u need to buy urself
they only giv u textbook written by sunway top students and edited by sunway
(as told by Spencer)
not sure how true is that

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post Aug 2 2011, 03:30 AM

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heavy calculation : MY > global pass rate
heavy theory : global > MY pass rate

conclusion: MY student not gd in theory and often rely on calculation to make it through

my lecturer said so
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post Aug 10 2011, 12:50 AM

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every sem oso same result day for june and dec sitting 1 la
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post Aug 12 2011, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming18 @ Aug 11 2011, 11:57 PM)
does it mean that our results will not be released on 22nd aug?? if so, when it is???
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they mean previously.... it's always earlier...not 22nd

but i only registered for ACCA last year...so the time of result is always the same for june and dec sittings


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post Aug 15 2011, 03:34 PM

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7 days to go...all the best
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post Aug 15 2011, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(student2 @ Aug 15 2011, 09:14 PM)
Not valid reason. Payment always can be amended, it is only a double entry.
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in UK... class usually start Sep
after result release

and I dont think ACCA is that free to do that
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post Aug 16 2011, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(student2 @ Aug 15 2011, 11:45 PM)
I totally understand what you say but i don't think you get what i mean. Most likely their point of reasoning would be if you don't pass your fundamentals levels; you won't have enough knowledge, skills etc to do further papers.

BUT from students point of view; students would have wasted a reasonable amount of resources for ACCA's operating deficiencies and insensitive policies.

Also i could infer that ACCA is punishing you for your failures; it happens mostly IRL but come on we are students here; give us a break. Some mature students even have more profound constraints; so my point here is give us some flexibility.

If I were to fail here; i could always re-take it in a future semester? My question here is why insist in insensitive policies and waste student resources?
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still
u have to learn how to crawl before u can walk

u muz remember
after grad from ACCA, u will bear great responsibilities as professional accountant

ACCA will not take gamble and affect its reputation because the affiliates are not competent

there's an order to things..u cant just skip it
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QUOTE(student2 @ Aug 16 2011, 12:42 AM)
I do agree that some things have an order especially nature; but remember that policies are man made and man can also twist the order of things. For example; abortion and energy manipulation.  

Fallacious reasoning for competencies. If what you say is true then why ACCA grant exemptions? They are literally gambling on their reputation by awarding you with exemptions.

There are cases where there are practising accountants whom are not that academically inclined; are you suggesting them to be lesser accountants?

I will only reply if you have valid points. If not it ends here.
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they give you exemptions as they see fit that you already gained the knowledge in ur previous studies

and relating to the issue u talking about

how can one person see fit about you taking advanced level paper when you cant get at least 50% of the marks in

fundamental paper? furthermore, not everyone is given the same amount of exemption

it seems you're not willing to accept others explanation

as u think you're superior

so why don't you contact ACCA and tell them ur point instead of wasting ur precious time here? biggrin.gif

if not...you can establish your own accounting body next time

which you can set any rules and policies u wan? thumbup.gif

and as for the accountant issue

IAS and IFRS is going to be adopted in Msia soon

therefore it's better if you passed your ACCA paper accordingly

you will have advantage as those accountants will find it harder to adopt the standards

in b4 /k style u tak suka u keluar

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post Aug 16 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(notmycupoftea @ Aug 16 2011, 01:08 AM)
about the exemptions, i don't think ACCA is gambling on their reputation.
the maximum exemptions ACCA granted are only F1-F9, u still have to complete P1-P3, two from P4-P7.

some degree students who are F7 exempted, even have to take F7 class in order to cope with P2.
therefore, if the degree student is weak, surely he/she couldn't pass all professional papers.
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yes...somemore not all ppl get the same exemption

however if skipping is allowed

ACCA potentially might suffer reputation risk

it's different from skipping back then in primary school

ppl might question this

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