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> Please do not blame Proton, Blame the supplier.

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C-Fu
post Nov 22 2011, 09:55 AM

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I remembered a story by a supplier. This supplier managed to successfully won a contract to supply air-cond parts for Potong.

Then the "haggling" began. Potong wants it to be cheaper. So the supplier said no problem, but had to cut cost a bit also la. Potong said fine. Then wants it to be cheaper still. And again and again. The supplier worried, told Potong if like this then susah to maintain the quality. Later if one side is colder than the other how? If leaking how? Potong said no problem, just do it. So the supplier did it, for the first and last time. Dowanna supply anymore to Potong.

FYI supplier generally supplies parts according to specs agreed with the buyer. How can blame supplier? doh.gif

ps. the supplier is my relative, not a story I read on the net biggrin.gif





QUOTE(hakimnen @ Nov 21 2011, 02:06 PM)
2) What kind of quality we are talking about? which parts? the manufacture for the dashboard, plastic part for Myvi and Saga is from a similar factory, the Hicom Teck See Sdn bhd. My friend work there. Does this make perodua more quality from proton?Nope absolutely
If you really have to ask, a lot of products of different ranges and prices are made at a same factory. Foxcon makes mobile phones for Apple, Sony phones, CSL and those china-mali brands. Does this mean that CSL phones are the same quality as iPhone? Are you stupid? doh.gif Even our local Mercedes factory also assembles another brand (which you can do yourself a favour and find out)!!! Go learn up some more on brand differentiation and costing before making stupid assumptions like that.

I repeat: THE FACTORY CAN BE THE SAME. BUT THE PRODUCTS CAN BE DIFFERENT DUE TO THE COSTS THAT THE CLIENT IS WILLING TO PAY.

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6) Car have many parts and intended for mass production and proton who construct the metal body only, it's hard to check of all individual parts unless u buy a Ferrari, McLaren etc. If u study manufacturing engineering or statistic u'll understand how the difficulty it is.
No it's not. If you study QA or Automotive or hell even QS for construction industry you will understand that every single due process is already there, just a matter of wanting to spend resources to apply it or not.

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7) Toyota called off some of their model (Lexus i think) in America because of the acceleration pedal failure. Why they called off?because some people died because of that failure! And no people in Malaysia think it is suck and shame. Have u heard proton part failure lead to death? nope until now and yet Malaysian people think proton suck because of the power window.
Stop the "people above proton MD" and I believe proton could improve well....
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Most asians don't care about the pedal problem because OUR TOYOTA CARS ARE MADE IN A DIFFERENT FACTORY WHICH DOES NOT PRODUCE NOR ASSEMBLE THE SAID PEDAL.

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Please go and study more boy. You're not making any sense. whistling.gif

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Nov 22 2011, 10:11 AM
C-Fu
post Nov 23 2011, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(hakimnen @ Nov 22 2011, 12:57 PM)
Does the Iphone is have similiar market segment as the CSL? No right? In my statement I compare myvi and saga BLM, almost similar price. How do you know Iphone quality is good than CSL just because CSL is cheaper. Show me the failure statistic between these comparable model before making that stupid statement. GO LEARN UP STATISTIC EVALUATION BEFORE MAKE ANY CLAIM!!!!!
don't talk kok la kiddo. I mentioned foxcon also making sony phones which are in the same segment as iphones. wanna talk kok about that? you start first! doh.gif


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Man, you're the one nonsense and should go study including learn to respect people OPINION!!
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Please don't go look in the mirror and call your baseless arguments and asking for "statistic evaluation" in a frickin forum as a real opinion. opinions are interpretation of facts, which you have none. that stupid tactic to validate this "opinion" of yours might work for kids of your level, but not me. sorry! smile.gif


If you call the many many pictures online of the devastating nature of accidents involving Potong cars as "annoying", that really shows your level of "opinion" there whistling.gif


Oh and why they wanna make it cheaper? Really? Of everything that I posted, that is your reply? doh.gif jangan jadi bodoh la beb. There is a basic spec standard for many many things in manufacturing, and they wanna go lower than the recommended spec, and all you have to say is did I ask why? If you really mean that, then you are a joke. shocking.gif

why don't you tell us if you think the CEO's comment were of genius in nature, or just plain stupid (follow your definition of stupid smile.gif)

This post has been edited by C-Fu: Nov 23 2011, 12:09 AM

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