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taaron
post Sep 18 2011, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 18 2011, 08:55 PM)
Quite satisfied with the front end already, now just the lower notes need fixing LOL laugh.gif

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taaron
post Sep 19 2011, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 19 2011, 10:22 PM)
wav is terribad for size/quality ratio, but its still supposed to be a 100% copy of the cd, but its not sad.gif
part of the fault is to be blamed on the software used for ripping WAV, the settings, the CD/DVD/BD player used in the ripping process..a few times I tried ripping WAV from the exact same CD audio, at times I could hear difference such as jitter exist, had to redo the rip again for perfect rip..
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post Sep 20 2011, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 20 2011, 12:20 AM)
at the end of the day, you STILL have to buy the original disc, nuff said LOL laugh.gif

mmmm... just bought Norah Jones and Black Eyed Peas, imported version laugh.gif
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well, i bought ori discs too, just that i want to backup softcopies of it on my computer so that I could listen it in my room..the ori discs are kept inside the car all the time, too disturbing if move around a lot..


Added on September 20, 2011, 5:21 pm
QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 20 2011, 11:29 AM)
FLACs do have better error correction and mainly is the way how the audio samples are ripped and proceed within the flac container file. If there are errors from ripping, it can help amend it to a certain extent, not perfect, but its better than nothing and most faults/degrade created from this error correction is not noticeable to most except the most sensitive of ears (sorry i dont have said golden earsĀ  whistling.gif )

WAV in a nutshell is a RAW data dump with almost zero processing (size aside, this also means no error correction/fault tolerance) and if your WAV ripping is bad, you have no choice but to rip again

all that said, the above error correction/fault tolerance is ALSO dependant on the CD ripping software that utilizes the encoder/codec of FLAC (or WAV)

there are many enhancements/updates for FLACs no doubt, however for WAV, it is very limited as it is:
- a very "ancient" codec
- data container size too huge
- not feasible as an archive medium even in today's HDD capabilities. We also have much better processors which would utilize the processing requirement of FLACs

also, people who are generally "fond" of WAVs are "analog people", aka the less hipster dudes which, you'd think they would provide updates/enhancements to the ripping/encoding of the codec unlike FLAC? tongue.gif

in all honesty they'd much rather just original CD it than go through the hassle to rip -> WAV -> burn CD (additional point of failure here, seeing the pattern?)
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i still find that the FLACs are still converted from a temporary WAV file (automatically created by software) when I've used the software to direct rip the CD Audio to FLAC format..the WAV will be automatically deleted by the software after successfully converting to FLAC, in simple words CD Audio>>WAV (temporary)>>FLAC...maybe it's just my software rip things differently, i'm not sure..

the software that I've used is Exact Audio Copy, how about you all?? any other better softwares?

This post has been edited by taaron: Sep 20 2011, 05:25 PM
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post Sep 20 2011, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 20 2011, 05:51 PM)
no it doesn't work that way. there is no temporary WAV file and WAV is totally not involved at all, it's a direct source -> FLAC encode. feel free to wiki/google info on FLACs smile.gif

if your software has a WAV process, id say your software got issues lol. and to be honest, the WAV would be another point of failure, because if the ripping got issues, WAV won't correct it and what your WAV has, will be carried over to FLAC.

not to say its wrong, its just additional hassle and wasting time, not efficient at all. and computers are supposed to make your life easier (more efficient smile.gif )


Added on September 20, 2011, 6:01 pm

im using fre:AC (used to be called bonk audio encoder) smile.gif
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downloading right now..will try out to see if it rips my CD Audio properly or not..thx for software smile.gif
taaron
post Sep 20 2011, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 20 2011, 07:41 PM)
actually, are you sure exact audio copy does a temp WAV before FLAC encode? initially i wanted to use that, but its full of bugs, program crashes it self and even occasionally crashing my windows.

in the end i gave up on it and sought out an alternative and thats what im using now ever since for many years already.
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yes, EAC does a temp WAV during the CD ripping process..once ripping done, the temp WAV is converted to FLAC in a split second, then done..

i'm using the latest version of EAC, you could try it and see how it behaves this time compared to many years ago..

 

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