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 2011 Kia Optima, when will launch in Malaysia?

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post Jan 22 2012, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 22 2012, 01:50 AM)
Eh Bangla,

140,000 x 60.72% = RM85,008
110,000 x 77.27% = RM84,997

Better go back and let your lenses "absorb" light lol...
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Dude. Percentage is important. Of course when you buy cheaper car, your actual lose will be minimal. Like if you buy current Viva, the max you'll lose is probably around RM30k-40k only.

And did you really confident current Optima which have been priced for around RM143,000 will have same resale value with current Honda Accord after 5 years? Know one can expect the future but base on history, people will assume Honda will have more resale value than Kia.
How Kia want change it, i don't know. People that really concern about resale value will just going to play safe.
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post Jan 23 2012, 03:36 AM

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QUOTE(xVince @ Jan 22 2012, 02:45 PM)
Irrelevant in what way? Both cars are D-Segment and produced in the same year. Mid class D-Segment sedan (T/H/Hyundai/Nissan/Mazda etc.) is one of the famous comparison here. One of the fact is many people said they rather pay more for the overpriced Japanese brand because of resale value and now you want to compare these cars at the same price?

Don't bother to talk about your Santa Fe/Sorento to Murano comparison. You just give out a comparison that noone makes before/often. Is like comparing a Camry to an E-Class just because they are on the same segment.

Seriously, what does the percentage help you? When you sell your car, you think those percentage figure can convert into something solid? In the end you only see how much you get back and calculate the lost. Who cares whether is 60% or 80% depreciation if both cars loses the same amount of value in the same period of time.
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QUOTE(gregy @ Jan 23 2012, 03:19 AM)
First of all, Happy CNY...

I think the automotive landscape has changed since the days of total Jap domination of certain segments in the market. People are now beginning to look beyond the obvious safe choices and make informed decisions against the grain sometimes.

All I can say is, if you plan to change cars every 2-3 years, then a Korean marque may not be a good choice. Then again, judging from the used prices of the latest Sonata YF and Forte, I daresay they have managed to maintain their prices quite alright, you can thank the 5-yr fully transferable warranty (300,000km for Hyundai and unlimited mileage for Kia) for that. Of course, both Sonata and Forte can't compare to City, Vios and Myvi for resale value.

Anyway, let's take a look at another comparo:

Sonata NF 2.0A 2006 vs Camry XV30 2.0 2006:

Sonata NF 2.0 2006 New Price: RM116,000 w/out insurance etc
Camry XV30 2.0 2006 New Price: RM131,000 w/out insurance etc

Sonata NF 2.0 2006 Current Price: RM54,000 w/out insurance etc
Camry XV30 2.0 2006 Current Price: RM74,000 w/out insurance etc

Sonata NF depreciation: RM62,000
Camry XV40 depreciation: RM57,000

So the savings for driving a Jap over a Korean over a 6 yr period amounts to RM5,000. IMO that is not a lot of money lost for wanting something other than what every other uncle is driving.
The difference between a Korean and a Jap is not much actually, nothing like comparing a Jap to say an Alfa, Audi, Citroen, Peugeot, Saab, Volvo, Renault or Skoda.
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Reliability, prestige and most importantly, peace of mind.
Those are the reason why people bought Camry 2006 at that time. Korean car before the launch of Forte is just sucks anyway.
Which is why the car isn't popular even Hyundai price it at cheap price.
And now for current Optima, the price is just nearly same with other T/H/N segment D car.
So people will always refer past percentage depreciation value as their guide in forecast the future resale value when buying a car.
If Korean car still have same resale value like a past, people will lose more and more than before by buying current Korean car.

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