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fazco85
post Mar 22 2013, 03:14 PM

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bebawak insaf kawan2. your sexual orientation problem is a test for you to correct things. use your god (if u believe in one) given brain smile.gif

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fazco85
post Mar 22 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(peter_pj @ Mar 22 2013, 03:43 PM)
Yea, and use your god given brain (if you have one) to learn about compassion, understanding and acceptance which is written all over your god given book (if you believe in one).
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yes, we accept u guys....as humans, can differentiate between right or wrong, can see the world, observe the nature to judge whether the things you are doing now are right or wrong. sexual orientation is something that should be discussed in private, not paraded shamelessly. if u have problem seek help. not embrace the problem like, "ohh...god have destined for me to become like this". try to change. its not easy but once you're successful it'll worth the trouble.
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post Mar 22 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(peter_pj @ Mar 22 2013, 04:58 PM)
I don't think anyone is parading anything shamelessly. Its just that you (and people like you) need to learn to have an open mind.
Every person on this Earth is unique, not only when it comes to sexual orientation but also their respective culture, religious beliefs. I suggest that you go watch shows like "Taboo" on National Geographic to see just a small spotlight on the different acceptance by various cultures throughout the world which is normal to them and not normal to you and I.

Oh, and before you continue to make further disparaging comments which also highlight your closed mind, please remember that I am not only open about my orientation to my friends and anonymous people on the Internet, but also my family (and yes, that means both my parents who both also love my partner very much) and also my colleagues and employer. And if all these people are able to grow-up and accept, you really should take a step back and evaluate yourself.
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if your family, your friends, your colleague...even the whole country can accept what you're doing, doesnt mean its ok. doesnt mean its the right thing to do. labels like 'liberals', 'closed minds', 'homophobic', 'backwards thinking' etc. are just invented to justify their means. look around you. observe nature. is it right to do this? is this the natural path of evolution, if you even believe the theory? is this the path that mankind should take? to submit to their LUST rather than submitting to things that makes sense/logical to our thinking?
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post Mar 23 2013, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Mar 23 2013, 12:34 AM)
Whether it's ok or not, it's not for you or anyone to judge. If you are not comfortable with PLUs then just don't come in the thread. As far as I know, I don't see any parading around the forum.
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im not judging. im just concerned with PLUs as a whole because we are the same, human beings.

to answer your question about parading, when people see u post frequently in this thread (People Like Us thread), organizing meetings and reunions, talk about your lifestyles etc....what do u think their perception of u are?

let me guess. "Must be one of the LGBT guys/gals"

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post Mar 23 2013, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Kevmeister @ Mar 22 2013, 11:28 PM)
Kalau tak suka thread ini, tak yah la masuk and reply.

What you're doing fazco is basically spreading hate on people. If you believe in your faith so much, then you should know that God is the only one that judges us for who we are. Who are you to judge us?

Also, a common fact; gays, lesbians and any homosexuals are born the way they are. We don't just one day wake up and go "Hmm, today I feel like being straight and shagging some chick/guy out".
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next time quote me if u want my reply.

refer my post above about judging.

"born the way they are" - are u sure its not the upbringing? unbalanced hormones? what our fathers and mothers has been eating (such as hormon-accelerating chickens)? and have u ever thought about why, oh why we are given the ability to think? to differentiate between right or wrong?
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post Mar 23 2013, 01:00 AM

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QUOTE(Amy09 @ Mar 23 2013, 12:59 AM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

hahahhaahaahhhaha biggest funny ever....................bet u never join any of their gathering before...
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yes i never joined one. see how outsiders think now?
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post Mar 23 2013, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Amy09 @ Mar 23 2013, 01:01 AM)
kesian......... sad.gif  sad.gif  never get to understand PLU's

actually their are just normal human being, eat as human, work as human got family also human...everything is very normal
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good to hear.
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post Mar 23 2013, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(peter_pj @ Mar 22 2013, 06:11 PM)
haha, I find your statement on submitting to LUST hilarious when all around us you find plenty of straight couples getting caught for khalwat.

Oh, and on your comments to "natural path", refer to wonderful examples in nature:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anima...sexual_behavior

And I find it interesting that you suddenly bring up "evolution" when you were talking about God a few lines above. Better watch out before you start contradicting yourself.
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bro/sis, if other people who claimed that they are better than u sinned doesn't mean that u can commit sin too.

that wiki link. notice its animals. with brains, but cant differentiate between whats right or wrong, surviving by following their natural instincts. if got eaten/ caught by humans its not their fault. humans are better than them. better in utilizing their ability to think, adapt, and ensure their survival in this world.

bro/sis, who says evolution cant come together with religion? see what they have done to us. to our ability to think. separate everything. science and religion. cannot mix. secular and non-secular.

think about the creation of the world. once we believed that atom was the smallest object. now its not true anymore. how can u say people are born this way? not because of what happened before? refer my previous post.

all im asking is please take a moment and observe the universe. and think smile.gif

my job is done here. i didnt wish to incite hatred, if any of u want to discuss about this, want to have good debate, can always PM me.
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post Mar 23 2013, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Mar 23 2013, 01:31 AM)
Yes we are the same, human beings. When we post in this thread it is fine because it's meant for people like us. When meetings are being organize, it is usually meant for PLU but of course if there are straight friends who would like to join us, we will not say no to them. During the meetings we don't go parade around. We would usually have a meal and just update each other on our lives.

It's not easy being a PLU. Honestly, if I have a choice, I would want to lead a straight life. Who would want to live a life that is not accepted by society. But I have to be true to myself and live the way I want to. This is just my opinion.
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dont say that. you do have a choice.

believe.

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post Mar 23 2013, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(Amy09 @ Mar 23 2013, 01:32 AM)
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif well only if they are willing to open mind and try to understand and attend the gathering they might only understand

oh god i am tirred...of explaining things to other ppl who do not research ........... yawn.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 02:34 AM

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missed this one. thnks 4 reminding

QUOTE(Amy09 @ Mar 22 2013, 11:39 PM)
to me only those we are closed minded and not willing to understand those ppl no matter what you say...they only believe their own understanding.....no need bother to talk to that kind of ppl....coz they dont know what is it like to be born in this way and they never will.......their mind is closed soo tight
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u get my point reading my previous posts. i believe everything happens for a reason. yes i dont have the experience on being a LGBT person but i've been 'tested' with other kind of 'test' in life (i have schizo since i was 15, and im nearing 30 now, a frequent patient at mental ward, and had twice been handcuffed and dragged to hospital)

i believe every experience that we have in life will make us better.

i dont share your views but still, i think its against the order of life.

and i dont think i have a closed mind. see what happened to me opening my mind trying to think about every single thing in life. Is life cruel, are we born to be bad?, yada yada all that kind of stuff.

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post Mar 24 2013, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(realnumber @ Mar 23 2013, 09:44 PM)
i hope u'll recover...
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