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post Jul 16 2011, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 16 2011, 09:17 PM)
Let's just say the hardware already fix, nothing can be done, although we all hope it can get better hardware. True that as long as the OS well optimized, smooth, can handle multi-tasking well, etc. The hardware isn't important.... but something that is also important; Nowadays, it's about HD and Full HD capability, the N9 would most probably have trouble playing Full HD, by the time it's launch, especially next year, the requirements from people will go even higher due to the standards is changing and moving forward everyday, thus it is crucial not to delay too long. This device, I believe was suppose to launch early this year (if not last year), but there was lots of delay.
Look at the N900, it was delayed, even though it's still a good device and promising OS, but due to the hardware limitation, it causes many limitation to the OS for the community to improve it. As for end user, during the day it was launch, it was still OK, but now, YouTube supports 480p, 720p,... many videos are in HD quality, websites are more complicated than ever.

One thing tough, it's good to know that the N9 is generous with 1GB RAM. That's indeed a shocking, especially from Nokia.

Just stating that hardware is still important, at least as a feedback to Nokia for future devices; They may have provide a decent or good hardware spec, but by the time they launch it, it might be outdated as technology moves too fast.

Anyway, honestly speaking, whether it's the FIRST and/or LAST MeeGo device from Nokia, it's not really important, especially nowadays... How many people actually use the phone for like maybe 2 or 3 years. In the coming years, probably people will change phones is shorter interval, with phones getting cheaper, technology moving faster, and also telcos offering this and that plan. People would be tempted to change their phone.

So, I think as long as this N9 and it's MeeGo OS, can fullfill the requirements of the user during it's time, it's good enough. More important, how good it is compared to others, what it can do that others can't offer during it's time. Just like N900, when it's launch, there's so many things/features that it have that NO competitor has. It was UNIQUE and people who KNOW about these stuffs, sees your device, they will be amazed and wonder WHY their phone can't do it. This is what makes people interested, want to change. It's similar like iPhone, what is can do, it attracts people who want 'smoothness', 'simplicity'.
This N9 selling point is even better I would say, it has smoothness and simplicity, yet its very powerful and flexible; Something that, probably no other mobile OS currently can offer? (but can soon catch up; so the key is to not to delay too long)
Basically, Nokia is really looking forward to market the N9 and get more people interested; One reason I was told is they need to convince that Malaysia has a lot of interested owners so they can bring in this device or maybe more volume or something like that. Remember that N900 was originally not plan to be launch in Malaysia, but due to overwhelming demands, it was finally launch here; Then again, the sale response I think wasn't that good? I think, probably due to this, they need to convince the N9 market for Malaysia? No idea, just my speculations based on N900 response; After all, if they bring many units here and it didn't sell well, then they might as well market this device in those countries that really looking forward for this device (the N9 will not be launch in several country, plus, India and HK, I think the have many enthusiast/interested people, look at the response for N900 and their amazing launching for N900)
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Regarding the hardware of N9,Nokia can upgrade the hardware if they want because according to those who worked on hardware adaption of MeeGo they already covered TI chipsets.So it is possible to use TI OMAP 4xxx series processors if Nokia wants.But I think Nokia management probably prefers WP7 to have more glorious hardware.
Better hardware is always a welcome but as you say solid build OS is more important.
It think 1080p should be video standard for the time being(2-3 years).So as long as N9 can play 1080p videos it should be fine.Anyway I think further enhancement to the video playback is always possible.
Like N900 we can only play 320p video resolution but there is freemangordon's 720p video patch in kernel-power now.It still needs DSP codec but it's a good attempt to see whether N900 can 720p videos or not.Too bad we cannot use TI's Android DSP patch to be used in Maemo (it's not redistributable)

There is a talk that MeeGo Harmattan's swipe UI might be used in Symbian Belle.The UI alone won't make Symbian as good as MeeGo because being a linux OS MeeGo is much more capable OS than Symbian.

If Nokia Malaysia wants to talk about low sale of N900 in Malaysia I say they should blame themselves.How many of you ever seen N900 advertisment? How many of you seen N900 is (Ori set) in any phone shop?
There was lack of any kind of promotion for N900 in Malaysia.They might argue that N900 was released for specific kind of users only for me no matter kind of users it'll be you still need a good promotion.
I love the N900 release in India.It was some kind of linux festival laugh.gif

N9 have a lot of strong point that'll suit both advanced & regular users but the uncertainly over software support & developers support might make potential users to to think twice before buying the device.
I'm a N900 owner & long loved Maemo device but even I still thinking whether I should get N9 or not.

This post has been edited by super_evil_alien: Jul 16 2011, 10:25 PM
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post Jul 16 2011, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(doomx @ Jul 16 2011, 09:35 PM)
One of the reason why the N900 wasnt that celebrated here was also when the devices came here it was so damn late. Most people already bought their AP sets and the publicity was close to none. Then again i was kinda interested in the N900 for a long period till they say they will not be launching here and i moved on.
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True, when it was announce, I was searching up and down, and very disappointed to find out that there's no plans to be launch in APAC region. Someone email Nokia Europe and the final response was there was no plans to be launch in APAC. The India people was very disappointed as there's many linux geek, HK as well, so many request and so on. In early days, AP companies didn't bring in ths device, have to buy online or from people who imported it, some people were selling in LYN for more than RM3K (if I'm not wrong). I bought it immediately when the AP companies bring it in, get it direct from the AP Company. Really hard to get this phone that time, but very satisfying feeling when you got it and hands on, there was real device to test or even look; Only source is YouTube, many interesting/attractive video showcase in-depth reviews and features of the phone; The best is the unboxing, watching how the device first boot up, it's amazing, unique, totally different from the rest; Watching it really poisoning.

To market the N9, Nokia really need a good advertisement that truly showcase it's uniqueness, something that attracts people, when they want it, they will want to try it/check it out at Nokia Store (if not made up their mind to buy it without hands on). Honestly speaking, Nokia doesn't really have good advertisements or advertisement that truly showcase the device; Look at N900 "transformers" ads,... it's useless, it's "entertaining" to watch, but shows nothing about the device really; On the other hand, take a look at Apple iPhone ads, it showcase the smoothness and simplicity of the OS, attractive UI, etc. People who watch it will "WOW", I want one (or at least check it out), or look at their phone... they will compare and think about iOS smoothness and/or simplicity.

Btw, the N900 launching in Malaysia seems nothing interesting. I'm not sure, I didn't see anything great, but take a look at India and HK launching, it was amazing. There's one Linux Mag from India, there's 9 pages of in-depth review of the N900, and in the last page, it mentioned, it didn't even cover half of the device, but he have to stop there due to page limitation.


Added on July 16, 2011, 10:46 pm
QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jul 16 2011, 10:21 PM)
Regarding the hardware of N9,Nokia can upgrade the hardware if they want because according to those who worked on hardware adaption of MeeGo they already covered TI chipsets.So it is possible to use TI OMAP 4xxx series processors if Nokia wants.But I think Nokia management probably prefers WP7 to have more glorious hardware.
Better hardware is always a welcome but as you say solid build OS is more important.
It think 1080p should be video standard for the time being(2-3 years).So as long as N9 can play 1080p videos it should be fine.Anyway I think further enhancement to the video playback is always possible.
Like N900 we can only play 320p video resolution but there is freemangordon's 720p video patch in kernel-power now.It still needs DSP codec but it's a good attempt to see whether N900 can 720p videos or not.Too bad we cannot use TI's Android DSP patch to be used in Maemo (it's not redistributable)

There is a talk that MeeGo Harmattan's swipe UI might be used in Symbian Belle.The UI alone won't make Symbian as good as MeeGo because being a linux OS MeeGo is much more capable OS than Symbian.

If Nokia Malaysia wants to talk about low sale of N900 in Malaysia I say they should blame themselves.How many of you ever seen N900 advertisment? How many of you seen N900 is (Ori set) in any phone shop?
There was lack of any kind of promotion for N900 in Malaysia.They might argue that N900 was released for specific kind of users only for me no matter kind of users it'll be you still need a good promotion.
I love the N900 release in India.It was some kind of linux festival laugh.gif

N9 have a lot of strong point that'll suit both advanced & regular users but the uncertainly over software support & developers support might make potential users to to think twice before buying the device.
I'm a N900 owner & long loved Maemo device but even I still thinking whether I should get N9 or not.
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I think for now, it's impossible for upgrade as they might already produce the device? Maybe IF they plan to launch a N9i, hahaha. tongue.gif
But I would prefer a N900i tongue.gif
Seriously, I still prefer Maemo OS, but it's limited by the hardware, and also the full source code of the OS to the community; That'll be crazy, but bad for business tongue.gif

N900 "official" advertisement is... not interesting or truly show the device capability. As I mentioned in my previous post, they need ads that truly show the device uniqueness, etc. I think most of us also rather watch videos posted by reviewers or owners, it's far more interesting and makes you want to get one or touch one. Nokia needs this kind of advertisement, not those advertisement which doesn't really showcase anything useful about the device.

Initially, if I'm not wrong, there was promotion and ads, and also pushing on N900 when it was first launch; Nokia Shop have demo units, and ads, but most people don't know about it and the WORST PART, the sales-person knows nuts about it; This is where the biggest failure comes in, the sales person might only know about Symbian (actually, they might also not familiar with Symbian in depth despite they have the glorious chance to play it it everyday; like a car salesmen who have the opportunity to try the car, but they don't understand the car or in-depth on the car, imagine they have to refer to brochure and explains to customer? What's the point?).
Next, there's no proper support in their Nokia Shop, people who come for help, seems those people can't help them? E.G. USSD? Nokia Malaysia should help them pre-install some useful apps and also give some basic "traning" or "guidance" to those users how they can use the device and so on, but there's none. People who get this are helpless, unless they join the forum and get to know more about it finally utilizing it.


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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jul 16 2011, 10:21 PM)
Regarding the hardware of N9,Nokia can upgrade the hardware if they want because according to those who worked on hardware adaption of MeeGo they already covered TI chipsets.So it is possible to use TI OMAP 4xxx series processors if Nokia wants.But I think Nokia management probably prefers WP7 to have more glorious hardware.
Better hardware is always a welcome but as you say solid build OS is more important.
It think 1080p should be video standard for the time being(2-3 years).So as long as N9 can play 1080p videos it should be fine.Anyway I think further enhancement to the video playback is always possible.
Like N900 we can only play 320p video resolution but there is freemangordon's 720p video patch in kernel-power now.It still needs DSP codec but it's a good attempt to see whether N900 can 720p videos or not.Too bad we cannot use TI's Android DSP patch to be used in Maemo (it's not redistributable)

There is a talk that MeeGo Harmattan's swipe UI might be used in Symbian Belle.The UI alone won't make Symbian as good as MeeGo because being a linux OS MeeGo is much more capable OS than Symbian.

If Nokia Malaysia wants to talk about low sale of N900 in Malaysia I say they should blame themselves.How many of you ever seen N900 advertisment? How many of you seen N900 is (Ori set) in any phone shop?
There was lack of any kind of promotion for N900 in Malaysia.They might argue that N900 was released for specific kind of users only for me no matter kind of users it'll be you still need a good promotion.
I love the N900 release in India.It was some kind of linux festival laugh.gif

N9 have a lot of strong point that'll suit both advanced & regular users but the uncertainly over software support & developers support might make potential users to to think twice before buying the device.
I'm a N900 owner & long loved Maemo device but even I still thinking whether I should get N9 or not.
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the power vr 530?im not hoping it can do brilliant graphical job.720p is the maximum limitation for it.i wonder it can run rmvb smoothly o not.N8(all symbian) is a nightmare for me coz rmvb not supported.swipe ui will not using in symbian belle(referring to the nokia official symbian belle website).
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Elop is definitely the mastermind behind this. Obviously he doesn't want N9 to shadow the WP7 devices releasing soon.
For me, the only hold back for me not to buy N9 is the processor and the uncertainty of app availability. I'm speaking of true mainstream apps like the ones Android and iOS get, not community created. I know community created apps are capable and in fact there're some which are even way cooler than the apps in iOS and Android, like the awesome QtIrecco laugh.gif but official apps gives full functionality. One easy example. Nelisquare is an app for N900 giving functions to Foursquare but there's lack of functionality like adding new location and To-Dos can't even be accessed.


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Such as this? biggrin.gif


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Sifu Heng,

Tomorrow pay attention to N9seconds tweet... Will release clues...
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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 17 2011, 09:05 PM)
Sifu Heng,

Tomorrow pay attention to N9seconds tweet... Will release clues...
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Mr Andre,next month wait for email for n9 event.will receive gift.
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jul 17 2011, 09:16 PM)
Mr Andre,next month wait for email for n9 event.will receive gift.
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U optimist or its already confirmed? Keh3
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if they wanna sell it, then fine, but i hope for huge discount. (I dont expect it will be free since price tag must be >RM2k).
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QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jul 17 2011, 09:16 PM)
Mr Andre,next month wait for email for n9 event.will receive gift.
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Yeah, N9 spec sheet like E7 event... tongue.gif

If you receive email next month, the event will be on the next next month. Wouldn't it be better to try to win one and trade it with iPhone 5? Even if they had one for you now, what you going to do with it? Play Angry Birds everyday? Spam pictures?

Nokia is not going to waste anymore resources on it.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 18 2011, 12:09 AM)
if they wanna sell it, then fine, but i hope for huge discount. (I dont expect it will be free since price tag must be >RM2k).
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You will buy meh? Hehehe...

Android fag all pampered by telco subsidize kao kao.. No discount to offset data plan where got worth oh.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 18 2011, 12:09 AM)
if they wanna sell it, then fine, but i hope for huge discount. (I dont expect it will be free since price tag must be >RM2k).
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huge discount?RM100 per N9?

QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 18 2011, 12:27 AM)
Yeah, N9 spec sheet like E7 event...  tongue.gif

If you receive email next month, the event will be on the next next month. Wouldn't it be better to try to win one and trade it with iPhone 5? Even if they had one for you now, what you going to do with it? Play Angry Birds everyday? Spam pictures?

Nokia is not going to waste anymore resources on it.
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dun worry.will get free gift,u wait email nia.iphone 5?dun 1 la,cari miss call dan receive call pun susah.

QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 18 2011, 12:31 AM)
You will buy meh? Hehehe...

Android fag all pampered by telco subsidize kao kao.. No discount to offset data plan where got worth oh.
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pampered by telco subsidize?not agree.my iplan 88 free 3gb data plan(unlimited after quota),450 minutes call,400 sms...the sgs2 plan 3gb(no free after quota),RM80 per month if i not mistaken.BLOODY CRAZY EXPENSIVE.thats y that day u asked me y dun queue for 799,i feel simply too expensive.
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Does the rangers receive every single Nokia new phones?
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QUOTE(super_evil_alien @ Jul 18 2011, 12:47 PM)
Does the rangers receive every single Nokia new phones?
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No..

N8 last year, C7 this January, and now E6/X7..

Judging from the response I seen on the previous meeting, I think the possibility of getting a N9 is 0%.


Added on July 18, 2011, 1:26 pm
QUOTE(nicholasbeh @ Jul 18 2011, 12:14 PM)
pampered by telco subsidize?not agree.my iplan 88 free 3gb data plan(unlimited after quota),450 minutes call,400 sms...the sgs2 plan 3gb(no free after quota),RM80 per month if i not mistaken.BLOODY CRAZY EXPENSIVE.thats y that day u asked me y dun queue for 799,i feel simply too expensive.
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I think your calculator rosak...

Buy from Maxis @ 799

799 + 1,200 (24months postpaid) + 2,112 (24months 3gb) - 240 (24months RM10 rebate for data plan) = 3,871

Buy from you @ 2,060

2,060 + 1,200 (24months postpaid) = 3,260

600++ for 2years data expensive? Cost less than you paid for your dual core.

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 18 2011, 01:16 PM)
No..

N8 last year, C7 this January, and now E6/X7..

Judging from the response I seen on the previous meeting, I think the possibility of getting a N9 is 0%.


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I think your calculator rosak...

Buy from Maxis @ 799

799 + 1,200 (24months postpaid) + 2,112 (24months 3gb) - 240 (24months RM10 rebate for data plan) = 3,871

Buy from you @ 2,060

2,060 + 1,200 (24months postpaid) = 3,260

600++ for 2years data expensive? Cost less than you paid for your dual core.
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i think u misunderstood.im comparing iplan vf the sgs2 plan.88 iplan free data,450 minutes+400 sms..my data exceed quota still free.that maxis?my data plan every month exceed quota 1.u tengok leo punye statement u know what is bloody expensive d.1 month statement can buy 1 sgs2.

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Don't tether...
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Don't tether...
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whatever,maxis plan is forever expensive unless its unlimited.even compare plan to plan vf digi also expensive.digi broadband RM68 only.speed faster somemore.
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Another N9 down... GBNWAT... what the hell is that

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QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 18 2011, 06:13 PM)
Another N9 down... GBNWAT... what the hell is that
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mata sakit.xpe la.tunggu nokia email lagi best.
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mata sakit.xpe la.tunggu nokia email lagi best.
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Copied from those special one in Maemo forum who are able to UNDERSTAND what Nokia wanna deliver...

For us, keep dreaming... LOL

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I've learned so much information from following this thread and its predecessors silently for a while now, so I thought I'd chime in to satisfy people's curiosity. The solution to today's clue was GBNWAT -- the 9th letter in each of the YouTube video descriptions after the initial "http://swipe.nokia.com". For example, the beginning of the first video Swipe's description says "Move with grace.", and the ninth letter is G.

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Copied from those special one in Maemo forum who are able to UNDERSTAND what Nokia wanna deliver...

For us, keep dreaming... LOL
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lol.u will get it eventually wat.wat dreaming.

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