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post Jul 6 2011, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(onijoseph @ Jul 6 2011, 01:03 AM)
datsun 130y = drive by my father.
nissan sunny= my mother.
and still driving now.
old is gold.
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yup...hard like gold too...never never hit an old old car....damn hard even it is not volvo~~


Added on July 6, 2011, 1:09 am
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 6 2011, 01:08 AM)
Impossible lah. Something is wrong with ur car.. Do u keep ur car always idling all the time?
even with my max rev track mode driving style 1 tank also can go at least 300km lah..
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agree...me too...maybe car too new, some setting also run edi??

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post Jul 6 2011, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 6 2011, 01:11 AM)
my car also new...now is 7.6L/100km
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7.6 is super low lor...our car had a 40 liter capacity. if u say is 7.6 u can run 520km edi on a 40 liter tank which is RM76 fuel. dun look at the car calculation. calculate it urself. new car normally need more fuel. ur car should have better fc
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post Jul 6 2011, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 6 2011, 01:13 AM)
Yea, serious. RM 423k. But 135i got 3.0 306WHP. smile.gif But that's about it. Seriously, with that kind of money i rather go for a recond GTR.
I can be the evidence, witness & victim to this. My previous myvi, before transplant to K3VET full tank only around 340KM. Teruk sia..
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my friend modded her myvi, with cai, 4-1 full exhaust system an extreme revver minimum rev is always 3500rpm can get 400+ edi...
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post Jul 6 2011, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 6 2011, 01:16 AM)
Our full tank 50L.
M3 ftw thumbup.gif I support this statement with my heart & balls... laugh.gif
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i dont think so leh. i think the manual write wrongly. i tried before when fuel warning then go for around 20km(dont dare to go more) then pump full until super full only 37 liter.
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post Jul 6 2011, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 6 2011, 01:16 AM)
i always calculate myself...
when i use up the RM50 = 26.xxx L of petrol i will recalculate again...
for now is 2.2k-3.1k rpm driving... wif average speed of 90-100kmh like tat
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hahahaha~~then no complain~~ur fc is edi going best.


Added on July 6, 2011, 1:23 am
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 6 2011, 01:19 AM)
Yeah.. hahaha.. M3 can get anything  for u and ur bro.. hahah..
Yeah if u average on 80-100 u really can get 7.6L/100km one... Me as long as i drive below 80kmh i get 7.5L/100km..
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ur car is modded wor~~

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post Jul 6 2011, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 6 2011, 01:24 AM)
Really 50L lah.. Tested and proven.. U keep 3L of petrol in 2 bottles and keep in ur boot.. Drive till the engine choke and die.. Then u fill the 3L in and u pump full tank.. confirm will pump 47L.
haha.. No worries lah.. Just trash it.. anything happen change engine again..  thumbup.gif
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lol...hahaha~~ok ok~~but tat will damage fuel pump as the news is going around. hahahaha~~
pumping 47 litres...wow...sure feel like i am driving a different car.
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post Jul 6 2011, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jul 6 2011, 11:25 AM)
Don't remember siham got rattling sound.  hmm.gif  Only squishing sound.  biggrin.gif
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some siham maybe got boost sound XD


Added on July 6, 2011, 12:58 pm
QUOTE(muslayer @ Jul 6 2011, 11:04 AM)
You can try this

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I use doubleside tape stick. This is how i diy my Persona Rattling sound from the vent
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nice...maybe can solve my vent problem...wat bout the dashboard?? i dunno where the sound come from actually..

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post Jul 8 2011, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 8 2011, 12:08 AM)
If always start stop the engine and driving for short distance sure very makan minyak.. Mb 1 tank only can last 300km..
Works Engineering Drop-in Filter Bulk - RM120 (I ordered 10sets only, so first come first serve)
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me wan too..hahaha~~at last.
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post Jul 8 2011, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 8 2011, 08:51 AM)
Yes, the transmission power loss matters...thats why I keep mentioning CVT vs Auto. CVT trany halves the power loss suffers by auto tranny. Against manual no fight, sure lar.

I'm comparing City with Persona H-Line Auto (nearest to City in term of specs) thus its actually 200kg lighter. Base line manual sure lighter with little tranny power loss. And City VTEC torque peaks at 3400, giving tremendous boost at low and mid-range power. At high end, I don't see much difference.
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proton is coming out the cvt too. but heard cvt is not meant to be revved high high. and the maintainance is super kaw expensive. with the personality of people that like revving kaw kaw i still think not suitable to get a cvt.
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post Jul 8 2011, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Jul 8 2011, 01:43 PM)
Hard to start, crank start longer? izzit? mine just change last 2month at 20k service and have that symptoms  hmm.gif
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sort of maybe. bcoz the oem spark plug dont last. it may also be due to the petrol. sometimes i experience it. just a few time though. go get a spark plug from zeng. then u definitely feel nice. somemore can feel more power. join the bulk also for air filter if u wan better fc XD


Added on July 8, 2011, 2:31 pm
QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 8 2011, 11:44 AM)
P is for Parking.. Its considered a parking brake.. Its there to help stop ur car in case ur handbrake fails.. Same like in manual.. When ur car stop u pull the handbrake then u put the gear into 1st gear, in effects locking ur car from being able to move..
Haha ok no probs..
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wokay.. XD
its me running the bulk.. haha.. Can can.. So i put it under ur name lah..
Got.. I still got another 3 extra sets in my car.. XD U want? Next week can collect it together with the filter lah..

BULK ORDER 5 - Works Engineering Drop-in Filter Bulk - RM120 (I ordered 10sets)
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hahahaha~~at last...err..how i pass the money to you?? i bank in to you lor include the postage. just tell me how much for postage also smile.gif

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post Jul 8 2011, 03:30 PM

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any quiet tire to recommend??
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post Jul 8 2011, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 8 2011, 03:31 PM)
Falken Ziex 912.
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hmm...wat bout the grip??the tire recommended in the 1st page??
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post Jul 8 2011, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 8 2011, 05:15 PM)
It really depends if you want performance tyres or comfort wan. Also the price range. 912 will make quite some noise after 30% worn in most case. Performance normally noisy wan so I assume you're prefering a comfort tyres.

The recent Conti CC5 seems to garner quite some good reviews with adequate grip for a comfort tyre. Low noise also but then its still quite new.


Added on July 8, 2011, 5:22 pm

Specs alone says new City coz PE is heavier (assuming auto vs auto at high spec), 4 speed auto vs 5 speed (still I think tipu wan, 2 overdrive mode), 122hp vs 110hp. But its the driver that can push car to the limit...so who faster....if you lose, he faster lor....if you win, you faster lor.. sweat.gif But then if you corner here and corner there using stock...city still lacks in handling vs PE....

AE86 still in my mind... blush.gif
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wat bout have nice grip plus low noise. hahahaha~~its nice to have both.


Added on July 8, 2011, 6:41 pm
QUOTE(victor87 @ Jul 8 2011, 06:10 PM)
PE more power.

My close friend drive a City and we race out the NKVE and Look Out Point hilly road last Monday. Top speed can still compete or should i say on par. Cornering / handling wise, Lotus handling  thumbup.gif .

My friend driving a 4G VTEC City with CVT. Pickup = sucks because the CVT has a inching when u press on brakes. (Like free gear only).
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the persona by the displacement 1.6 by right should win the city 1.5 edi. so if city do win i also have nothing to say. but when i seat on my friend latest city, his full throttle much more quicker acceleration than my persona. summore its smoother a lot. however, comparing honda and proton is really not a choice. hahaha~~wish the 1.6 have higher output. vios 1.5 had 109hp, city 1.5 had 120hp. i wonder why our iafm 1.6 only have 110hp. hahahaa~~actually i tot persona will use cps.


Added on July 8, 2011, 6:50 pm
QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 8 2011, 05:15 PM)
It really depends if you want performance tyres or comfort wan. Also the price range. 912 will make quite some noise after 30% worn in most case. Performance normally noisy wan so I assume you're prefering a comfort tyres.

The recent Conti CC5 seems to garner quite some good reviews with adequate grip for a comfort tyre. Low noise also but then its still quite new.


Added on July 8, 2011, 5:22 pm

Specs alone says new City coz PE is heavier (assuming auto vs auto at high spec), 4 speed auto vs 5 speed (still I think tipu wan, 2 overdrive mode), 122hp vs 110hp. But its the driver that can push car to the limit...so who faster....if you lose, he faster lor....if you win, you faster lor.. sweat.gif But then if you corner here and corner there using stock...city still lacks in handling vs PE....

AE86 still in my mind... blush.gif
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handling lotus thumbup.gif
hahahaha~~its the driver skill that is important not the car. hahaha~~thats AE86 for~~

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post Jul 8 2011, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jul 8 2011, 07:16 PM)
very suffer ler drive below 3k rpm, some more our PE no low end power, power kick in after 4k rpm...


Added on July 8, 2011, 7:17 pm

both are 1.6cc too. u should ask which pickup faster... tongue.gif
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city is a 1.5 man~~
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post Jul 8 2011, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 8 2011, 07:35 PM)
Jom.. Make sure all wear yellow, I'm the only 1 wear black there.. brows.gif then i'll watch u all kena sapu.. bye.gif
Yeah. Pirelli PZero. Tyres that they use on continental cars. My cousin's M3 runs on those.

VTEC had 120 HP because of the dual cam profiles. Just like our CPS. So u can say that if Honda were to make a 1.6 equivalent engine, it'll be the iDSi version to compare with our IAFM.
Where got both 1.6... City 1.5.. And the latest City pickup slightly faster because of the gearbox.. Ours dono which era punya gearbox using till now.. doh.gif Thats why our PE low end power a bit suffer.
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but i heard i-dsi fc damn nice. hahaha~~
oic..hahaha..my tyre going to die liao. so need to research. wats the price btw?? anyone know??

actually wat gearbox we using?? i think if iafm plus a nice or better gearbox the fc sure nice.


Added on July 8, 2011, 7:40 pmhttp://www.facebook.com/lovekisssoh#!/...168619&comments

just for sharing. this is super. who wan try on their PE??

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post Jul 8 2011, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 8 2011, 07:45 PM)
During making the video:



After crashing at 200 KM/h making the video:



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Btw, the 2nd track is a lady-killer.. My chic loves it a lot.. brows.gif


Added on July 8, 2011, 7:56 pm
Our gearbox? duno la.. but 4 speed gearbox has been around for ages lah... doh.gif

Tyre price? Depends on ur budget lor. Cheap cheap RM 95 to expensive around RM 500-600 one piece also got. doh.gif
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but cheap cheap one boleh pakai meh??


Added on July 8, 2011, 11:44 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 8 2011, 08:38 PM)
No. There are DOHCs, but they only come in pure VTEC version. Not the I-VTEC. The SOHC engines that we see in normal honda's now are usually I-VTEC.
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so our PE is dohc or sohc??


Added on July 8, 2011, 11:50 pm
QUOTE(Cavino @ Jul 8 2011, 08:53 PM)
Even before naik harga, Pirelli tyre already exhorbitant price. Now....can empty pocket just to buy one.

Anyway Honda discontinued iDSI becoz real life data indicated FC improvement over its VTEC model is very negligible.

Also latest City pickup IS slightly faster than CVT version but by mid-torque CVT will start to overcome them.

AND City CVT pickup does not SUCK. I've always mentioned most ppl prefer the zoom zoom feeling. CVT DOES NOT convey that feeling but although it IS SLOWER a bit at initial pickup, if you are able to control the accelerator to increase speed according to its torque increment, you get OPTIMUM power at each speed increment. In another word, if you try the usual auto tranny way of acceleration, its not going to make the best out of CVT gear box and you'll feel underpower the petrol you tekan does not match the CVT steady BUT definite increment (optimum torque at each steps). Thats how CVT provides good FC and steady power increment.

Honda mentioned the reason to switch back to normal auto tranny is becoz asian loves vroom vroom feeling and unable to handle smooth steady increment of CVT although its the best at FC and power balance. I suspect most prob becoz its fragile and ultra expensive to replace..

I've kena tapau so many time by others at initial pickup but most I could overtake a short while later, (they seems to run a bit out of breath after initial acceleration but CVT keeps going and going and going). Only at higher speed could they match back side by side.

btw now Honda still got 3 stage VTEC meh...those are in the past already....but manyak makan minyak lor...
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hmm..but still vios the best fc isnt it?? currently lah. but i heard the altis even better with its dual vvti. best fc for a 1.8 and 2.0. cvt is for smooth driving lah. not suitable to rev. later kong edi repair u cry.


Added on July 8, 2011, 11:55 pmhttp://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1929128
nice car

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post Jul 9 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jul 9 2011, 12:03 AM)
Normally cranking start time will be difficult cos the gapping voltage is huge.. So car might take longer cranks or a few times to do cold start..
Then at high rev time ur car cant accelerate as fast as it used to be and the top speed reduced also.. Cos too much misfiring, so ur car no more acceleration.. Or ur car when going high speed like got asthma like that.. engine choking..
ah ok can lah.. haha.. XD..
wokay.. Air filter 120, postage 10.. Total 130 u bank in to me loh.. XD
Erm not IAFM not cannot use.. But as a forumer her once said i think after 2008 the cars are IAFM.. But take a pic of his engine bay to confirm lah.. Or take out his OEM filter and compare to urs.. If exact same size then its IAFM.. If its shorter and wider then its cam-tak-pro.. Dunno whether the works got manufacture for cam-tak-pro or not.. Have to call next monday and ask..
Wokay. XD
one mth b4 PE launch confirm is IAFM.. XD.. But just double check to be sure lah.. haha.. Cant refund once opened..
Buy insurance for ur gearbox.. Soon or later going to kong.. haha.. Jaga the torque converter sikit or u will be the first PE owner to rebuilt a low transmission lost torque converter..
the swifttttt sounds when after u turn the steering and straightened it back is due to the orifice valve.. Its normal lah..
Did they change the power steering assembly for u?? If hvnt.. Just tell them whenever u corner u hear some metal knocking on the right hand side of the car engine..
No ah.. Clean and clear.. LDP just now was abnormally less cars compared to other friday nights.. GUess all scared and was staying at home.. The Curve, Sanctuary, Library, Laundry etc etc normally will be packed on friday nights.. But today not even half full.. Was racing with an Isuzu Dmax from BU to sunway.. No matter how i tekan also the fella still can tailgate me.. Haiz.. PE not enuf torque.. Only above 140kmh was i able to built some distance between my car and the pickup..
Etiqa.. Faster claims... and insurance premium got extra discount also..
our PE confirm dohc lah.. haha.. the altis dual-vvti helps alot in exhaust valve controls also.. so it optimises the low end torque as well as high end speed.. Very good compared to CPS or Vtec in FC..
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post Jul 9 2011, 06:39 PM

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wow...become politic thread edi. any recommendation of car budget at rm500-rm700. new and 2nd hand. preferably fc and quality and comfort for outstation.
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post Jul 9 2011, 06:50 PM

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i am wondering about the michelin primary LC. in the 1st thread it says that slightly poor grip in wet. i wanna know how poor is it?? compared to the stock good year nct 5.


Added on July 9, 2011, 6:51 pm
QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 9 2011, 06:49 PM)
U wanna buy a car for RM 500-700??? shocking.gif sorry to say, but we're not living in UK where it's possible to get a car for 150 pounds -.-
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sry. means per month. how can a car be rm500 lah wei.

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post Jul 9 2011, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(xandras @ Jul 9 2011, 07:14 PM)
With that money aa.. Go get a secondhand accord or camry lah.. Good highway cruiser..
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second hand camry and accord only rm 500-rm700 per month ??


Added on July 9, 2011, 8:56 pmaikz no one answer about the tyre. only get shock by my rm500-rm700 for a car XD

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