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post Jun 24 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 03:41 PM)

LOL no expiry date lah.. haha.. Iridium would never rust.. Ok when want to collect?

Yeah performance filters give more air flow at the expense of filtration efficiency.. For example like the most popular ones (K&N), the filtration is very poor.. In US or most parts of europe its suitable due to the lower pollution and cleaner air.. If u were to used that in Msia, our roads are dusty, dirty, lorries drive pass with black smoke etc etc, low filtration will allow those sand and fine particles to bypass the filtration.. Thats where the oiling kit comes in to help.. The oil actually catches the fine particles which otherwise the standard filtering elements wont be able to catch.. In the works engineering one, the filtering element comprise of a stainless steel mesh with a non woven fabric in the middle.. The fabric is the ones that fucntions like a paper filter, giving good filtration and doesnt need reoiling..

http://simotausa.com/Simotaairfilters.aspx


Added on June 24, 2011, 3:49 pm
LOL.. Just put the filter in the bottom tray.. then take the top tray cover over it and give it a shake.. If there is freeplay then the top cover isnt properly aligned.. Once the top cover drops into place u cant slide it around at all..
It comes pre-oiled from factory.. And u just need to wash it with clean running water.. Dont use soap as u will wash away the factory pre-oil.. Chemicals is not necessary also.. Its more of just a gimmick to get slightly extra cleanliness from ur filter.. The important thing is u do cleaning on schedule.. Then ur engine would perform optimally..
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I'm using iridium for my City VTEC (original already iridium), its really good. Change at 80K mileage, power straight comes back and much easier to start.

I work in KL but live in Klang....have to arrange ler. Unless you pass by Menara Citibank during working hour or Empire Gallery (subang) after office hour. I will try arrange sometimes in next 2 weeks.


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post Jun 24 2011, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 24 2011, 04:07 PM)
Not not exactly.. If like say u didnt close ur door or bonnet or boot properly and u lock ur car.. Then the alarm will beep 4 times.. the LED also will start blinking.. To stop it from blinking u need to close the doors properly, lock it and unlock it again to reset the alarm.. If u dont do that then the led will continue to blink even when engine started and u are driving.. But there is no harm in it lah.. I have driven with the led blinking b4, no performance problem or engine cutting off..
Empire lah.. haha.. I will be in subang most of the time one.. My classes is at sunway only..
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Does that also means if boot forget to lock, THERE is an indication from the alarm LED rather than the door light.

I will be at gallery on either Monday or Tuesday next week and available by 8pm. Usually there twice weekly for swimming until 7.30pm++. Too skinny to do gym with those muscle bound guys around.... sweat.gif

If you want to go fitness first on saturday afternoon also can (if you're not already a member).....i can bring you in smile.gif
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post Jun 24 2011, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(dorinyeah @ Jun 24 2011, 04:22 PM)
Joke for you guys
When a lady is pregnant, all her friends touch the stomach and saying "congrats".
But, none of them come and touch the man's penis and say "Good job".

Moral of the story: "Hard work is never appreciated” LOL
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Alternate moral of the story....."most takes the easy way out, human nature". Why, coz we know the woman was involved in the process, but are we sure its THAT man's penis that completed the task....so congrat the woman is sure fire correct but....if congrat the wrong man...


Added on June 24, 2011, 4:30 pm
QUOTE(victor87 @ Jun 24 2011, 04:18 PM)
Driving with the led on really scary, though it was the immobiliser working or what..  laugh.gif
Wei, the button i thought is to unlock doors? can reset the led thingy mehh...

Don't know eh, feels like going to a wiring job to link all together to get the bonnet and trunk shows indicator when they're not closing properly. I search back the old thread, some people say their Persona (not PE) got indicator when trunk is opened, but some claims don't have.
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Wah...tak da baca manual wan....that button main function is reset alarm...the door unlock is just a secondary function.

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post Jun 24 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(mafilee @ Jun 24 2011, 04:26 PM)
I already got my PE Manual BG color today...thank to Xandras for recommending the SA dcautoworld..very committed agent.. he deliver the car at my doorstep..very good services..

i just test drive my car i found that the pickup very slow when i change my gear..if anyone here using manual transmission facing this issues?
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PE got a bit low on low-end torque and very heavy weight, you might just want to get used to it and adapt your driving style to accelerate accordingly.
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post Jun 24 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Nievk8701 @ Jun 24 2011, 11:07 PM)
Dear all, Taman Mayang Service Center really teruk.
pls avoid this SC at all cost. wat can i get from them as compensation arr?
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I hurt for you, man. Can really understand how you feel.
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post Jun 25 2011, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(stormaker @ Jun 25 2011, 08:29 PM)
Yeah V-Good brand doesn't nice to me also, but VKool around that price also ? But lots of owners complaint it will oxidize after years bcos of metal in it.

Any idea abt the car cover which wont damage the paint ?
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Lots of owners ???

Actually only some of them. It depends on the installer, really if they sealed in properly. All my vehicles using VKool 70...Elite.

My city near 6 years. Condition...as good as new.
Another city also near 6 years. Condition....I don't see any different from first installed.
Civic near 3 years.....not even a close sign of oxidization.
Persona 3 weeks.....workmanship somehow not as good as the other 3. But since its still new, will wait and see if a couple of corner air pocket disappear or not. A bit worry it might kena that problem later.

Lots of tints claimed to be better than VKool thru their incredibly good specs on paper. Actual true life performance seems not to live up to their claimed. Even those branded wan also claimed better than VKool or equal on all aspect but half the price. Real life result, lots ppl complained like hell.

You should look at TSER or Total Solar Heat Rejection, thats the true stat for heat rejection. VKool Elite had 53% or 54% TSER meaning it blocks 53% or 54% of total solar heat but the rest still goes thru. One of the highest for CLEAR TINT. Only one that I think live up to their claim on equal to Elite might be 3M but 3M got the best IRR protection that greatly affect smarttag, gps, remote, etc, even worst than VKool Elite.

A misleading stat for heat rejection is IRR%. Ppl tot 97% IRR means 97% heat rejection. IRR in general forms at most 49% of solar heat if the manufacturer actually used the full IRR spectrum to calc them. So even if you have 100% IRR, that only form half of effective TSER stat, thats abt 25% heat rejection TSER.

Other good brands have good quality but somehow fail to truly live up to their claim of equalling VKool Elite for clear tint. Huber Optics is another good brand but found out its famed ceramic range that absorb heat is not that effective in summer but very effective if living near sea coz it don't oxidize. Forget abt cheaper brand like Air-Cool, VGood or those clear tint if you want GOOD solar heat rejection. Their ok for their price but nowwhere near Vkool for their clear tint and tends to lose effective early. VKool might oxidize later (all my vehicle no problem yet)....but it never lose its effectiveness.
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post Jun 27 2011, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(mafilee @ Jun 27 2011, 10:26 AM)
anyone facing issues with viper sound? tick tock sound come out when i'm using it ..

when i'm speeding there will be sound at my window i'm not so sure is it because of my windows or the visor...

my driver window the button show auto but when i lower the window there is no auto lower..what is this..

only 3 day old car .. about engine i cannot complaint yet bcoz i'm super noob.. sweat.gif
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For window auto, just press the button lower to the bottom until you hear or feel a click, it will go auto. No auto up tho.

The sound of window, you did not mention what sound, knocking, creaking, windsound, etc. So many possible cause.

3 days already speed kah...should not go over 100km/h for 1st 1K to run in the engine.
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post Jun 27 2011, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(phat_mcjack @ Jun 27 2011, 10:50 AM)
noting i guess...
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Everything still new mah....even human if never run, ask to suddenly run, sure kena muscle strain wan. All your car mechanical comp still new. Give it some time before running it fast.

Some more there's metal particles left in engine after manufacturing. High speed, oil get thinner...not so good for those particles vs piston (I only guessing here). Wait till change oil at 1K only run at high rpm.

As for possible damage if did not do run in......depends on luck. Likely nothing happen to your piston wall but it just increase chances of possible damage or faster wear and tear (might not see it now until years later). Don't worry too much since its done.

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post Jun 27 2011, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(mafilee @ Jun 27 2011, 11:17 AM)
yeah i hope so there will be no issued now..already happen..need to be more careful in the future..maybe bcoz too excited..got the new car.. sweat.gif

another one i wanted to ask can we trust our FC calculation average at our dashboard? mind now showing 7.7 L/100km..?
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Lots of owners just run it as usual since most modern engine have very good production tolerance level compared with engine of old....

That is the problem with Campro engine. Its a modern engine but don't know if Proton follow the latest high tolerance way of production or more celup wan...not much confidence in their built quality. For jap and conti cars, definitely no such issue arise nowadays due to their proven high tolerance production value.

That meter can give you an estimate but not accurate enuf to rely totally on it. Its best to do it the manual way. Fill tank to full and reset trip meter. Run till next refill. Note down mileage and filled FULL tank. Then divide mileage by fueled filled by liter.

Ie. 340km trip / 30.4 liter (full tank filled) = 11.18km/l

Even that is not very accurate as sometimes we used more petrol....but somehow mileage still low then on next refill suddenly use little petrol but can go higher mileage. Do the refill calc a few times in a row and then average them out. THAT will be accurate.

I like using the mileage left countdown meter. Countdown from 550km to 0 (means petrol empty). Not very accurate but can give you and estimate especially if you're running low on gas.
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post Jun 27 2011, 12:17 PM

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Keyless entry....how abt when you're beside your car but talking to ppl. Want to keep the car lock coz your notebook or bag (woman's) is in front seat while your talking beside your car.

How abt pumping petrol. I ALWAYS lock my car esp if there's valuable or bags in car, while pumping petrol...if it remains unlock coz you're next to it...
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post Jun 28 2011, 09:14 PM

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So H-Line brake system with ABS literally paid for itself with the 3-4K difference between H-Line and M-Line. So more got all other accs including leather seats, extra padding, gps, etc. One more reason for recommending H-Line instead of M-Line.
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post Jun 28 2011, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 28 2011, 11:37 PM)
if is around rm75k-90k is still ok for me to loan...u c...if they full refund me...i can take inspira also but...u c their after sales already giv me a vry vry bad experience...phobia towards proton already...
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Heavy burden oih....I know very well since I got City last time, had to pay 7 years instead of intended 5 and almost double monthly loan repayment.

Inspira also can, one of my choice but makan minyak ler....also another high rev car. Low end torque also a bit lacking. There are many many many cars especially the increasingly attractive Korean marquee at that price range, 6-speed Forte, maybe the new award winning FC Elantra...although City and Vios (somehow dislike Vios) comes with good power and FC but a bit expensive for current economic condition.

Thats why I settled for Persona. Adequate power, enuf space, value for money....although built quality leaves a bit of bitter after taste. Somehow wonder if this car can really last more than 5 years without something in engine or critical component kaput. At least with other Jap, Korean, Conti cars, we don't really worry too much if it can last...we know they can...sort of.
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post Jun 29 2011, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 29 2011, 03:37 AM)
Time to take out the steering lock to settle the prob.. XD Fight violence with violence..
Cant ask so much lah.. The tribunal will say to either refund all the money paid by ckdenion + minimal compensation or Proton can offer to give a new PE.. Unless  Proton wants to be nice, they can give u an Inspira, by then get the car, sell it and buy a Fiesta 1.6 DSG then call me.. I wanna test drive..  tongue.gif
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Proton gives Inspira as compensation....that will be the day....no way !!!!

No car manufacturer will ever give a car upgrade as compensation. Will set a bad precedent that they will have to follow next time they got a lemon, they DO have lots of lemon. At most, although unlikely, they will give new persona, that is if the case goes to tribunal, newspaper, tv, md, burned proton effigy in front of hq, etc.

Generally will only give new engine. Probably can asked for more compensation either monetary and more likely free full service (parts and labor) up to 80K mileage (you can always try...no harm done if they don't want to pay direct $$$). Can claimed lost of time, patience, $$$ for the lemon thingy.
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post Jun 29 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(phat_mcjack @ Jun 29 2011, 10:36 AM)
not they guarantee 1hr meh?
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1 hour only for normal service. If include just 1 complaint....1 hour no longer valid.

The last time I'm there, they put boring documentary in tv.

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post Jun 29 2011, 11:27 AM

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Xan handsome mah...got movie lor...

I, ah pek, so they give documentary,

Zap...no comment !!!!
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post Jun 29 2011, 02:00 PM

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BLM Saga seems to be king of cucuk nowadays. Everytime see got car cucuk me, its most likely saga.

My way of dealing with being cucuk when my front also got car is by driving even slower. The closer i got cucuk, the slower I drive until my front can masuk a few cars. Then when they have enuf and try to cut me, I accelerate and close the gap. Don't care if its saga or bmw, if my front got car, cucuk me also no use...i also got no confident with their driving skill coz if emergency brake, sure bang... so drive slow until 2-3 cars gap to prepare for brakes..


Added on June 29, 2011, 2:08 pm
QUOTE(Assclown @ Jun 29 2011, 01:58 PM)
guys, i'm planning to get this as my first car. Not very savvy with cars. From the first page (proton's website), I managed to get a rough idea how much it will cost for maintenance.

However its not the complete cost as tires was not included. Anybody have any idea how much tires will cost and how often do we need to change them?
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Tyre not consider maintenance. Normally will last 30K-50K mileage depending on what tyre you buy, the way you drive and the road you normally drive on. Stock Goodyear NCT5 normally quite lasting. It last me 55K last time on mostly highway drive. At most, it should be able to last at least 30K. That should be abt 2 years to 3 years depending on how much you use the car. If your mileage is very low, avg estimated 4 years HAVE to change tyres even if not used coz it start to harden and have hairline cracks on sidewall.

Nowadays, acceptable entry level tyres cost abt RM180 to RM200 per piece for standard 15".

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post Jun 29 2011, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Assclown @ Jun 29 2011, 02:12 PM)
thanks for your input. Anything else that i should take into consideration that will incur cost on the car other than road tax/insurance and fuel?
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Wash and polish, yes might be low cost but a good polish especially if done by Pro is still going to cost some but that is optional. If you wanted tint, that is another added cost.

Other than that, avoid accidents lor.... tongue.gif (anyone can predict accidents) hmm.gif

That is the no. 1 unforseen cost that will bankrupt some but that is also optional cool2.gif

Ppl like Zen, might want to spend more on interior cleaning....those cum stain needs a pro to totally wash off...

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post Jun 29 2011, 03:17 PM

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Not so sure on camber screws. Both my city and persona also install coz machine indicate camber runs out more than 1.0. My mechanic mentioned if camber runs out more than 1, then should installed adjustable camber screw.

My other city when I check whether need to install or not, he checked and mentioned no need coz camber within 1.0.

So in conclusion....I'm still not sure if I got rip off, coz he would ask med to change screw for my other city as well.
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post Jun 30 2011, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(ZenGTMM @ Jun 30 2011, 12:33 AM)
ask him for free service and 5 years warranty for engine and transmission like those EWP programs.. Its easier to get than monetory compensation.. If u get 50k free service u get more than 2k worth of service for free.. No need to
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If you're h-line, i forgot what line you get, you already have foc service and parts up to 20K. Go for 80k FOC service (MUST INCLUDE PARTS)...might be easier to get than direct cash.

I tot our new PE all included additional 3 years EWP already?
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post Jun 30 2011, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(jackyap84 @ Jun 30 2011, 08:50 AM)
ur record is owesome! mine one average only can up to 380km for 38L.


Added on June 30, 2011, 8:54 am

this never happen to me, i think is time to reset ECU to remap again.
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It really depends on your right foot, the way you drive and the road you drive on most of time. From Bukit Tinggi, Klang to Menara Citibank in KL daily with medium traffic jam.

I'm reaching 8.8 avg

1st petrol fill bad at abt 10.2 km/l coz do a lot of testing for sound detection and a bit of vroom vroom due unaccustomed to the lack of low end torque.

2nd petrol fill improved at abt 11.4km/l and learned to accelerate slower and steadily to gain momentum for low end torque. A bit of testing as well for sound and windows problems.

3rd petrol fill improved further at abt 12.3 km/l.

All at abt estimated 50/50 or 60/50 highway/city roads (agak agak calc smooth drive mileage vs city mileage included those with traffic jams, vehicle testing, etc)

Going for 4th petrol fill by tomorrow kuah.. now est. abt 8.5l/100km..

Learned to coast more as I get used to driving it. While I constantly drive at 100km/h at most on highway earlier. I started to rev a bit at up to 120km/h, so fc might not be as good in near future but at least its improving. 12+km/l is anytime better than my Civic avg 11km/l for the same route (although much more comfortable, civic that is)

ps. I a bit sakit hati at my City FC. Since my wife driving full time 100% city...FC drop from avg 15+km/l (almost 6 years liao) to 11-12km/l. Some more sound start appearing since she drive...but what can I do, I love my wife more than my City brows.gif

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