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maxpudding
post Jun 14 2011, 08:45 AM

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post Jun 14 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jun 14 2011, 11:46 AM)
If anything, I'd feel happy if the aftermath of this results in govt being more security conscious when implementing new e-services.

FS not free for all ticket for piracy.

I guess most malaysians need to wake up and realize that there's no free software, music and video (unless it's an indie or really crappy.. lol)

Bayar software/music/video ori takleh, beli kereta dengan 75+% import duti boleh. Beli iphone4 boleh. WTF? concrete object = property, abstract/services = cannot be charged? I guess kedai gunting have to gulung tikar already.
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wow i guess you don't even have one single pirated thing in your pc, cars, handphones etc

so angelic
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post Jun 14 2011, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jun 14 2011, 12:08 PM)
can go change back right? you shud be lucky its not Islam, else die lo icon_question.gif
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vtec kicks in
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post Jun 14 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jun 14 2011, 12:15 PM)
So if you have one single pirate item in your possession, that is the license to pirate everything else? Nice logic, no wonder thieves will be thieves.


implying I do not condone piracy

nice logic you have thar, moron

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I used to live on pirated software because I was a student then, software was around RM-250-300ish (this was the early 90s), and I don't earn money. Now, with OSS and alternatives, why still bother? Ubuntu is one of the more epic examples out there. Should really thanked the ad-based software development model for making available cheap to free alternatives.

And since I earn my own money I also bought 3-4 copies of original windows. The downside? I drive an almost 20 year old car it's cheaper. 40,000K cheaper than a new camry/accord in fact. And that's the money that I save to buy my flatscreen, my software and my music.

As for music, ever since I can buy original itunes track at USD0.99.. why the heck not? it's not like the old days where the only option is CD/LP/LD/DVD which were dictated by our govt taxation rate. I don't listen to the entire album anyway, so the single song purchase option was what I was waiting for.

As for piracy of movies/TV series, I find it a bit of a non-issue, as most homes now have astro, and most of the shows being downloaded are going to be shown on astro anyway, since astro is so slow when it comes to airing current episodes. Such as House MD, CSI etc. etc. And the bulk of it are college students, who have Astro at home, but not at their dorms/college apartments.
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cool story bro, no one wants to hear your sad story

Jentik sikit dah gelabah, ptuih. Nampak sangat ada pirated possessions, either you acquired them in the past or maybe in the future

one word

hypocrite

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post Jun 14 2011, 12:41 PM

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Well anyways

the root of their cause is not because many people cannot *ehem* download pirated files anymore

their reasons was clear, that there shall be no internet censorship
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post Jun 14 2011, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 14 2011, 01:04 PM)
There is something missing; MONEY. For the equivalent amount of product used, there's an equivalent amount of money for the owner. But, (example) there's 100 people using although only 50 items worth of money in their account. Another thing is, when you purchased something, you buy a license for usage. If you're using an item without the permission/license, what does that make you? Awesome?

Anyway the term is not important. I used 'rompak' just because the Malay translated of piracy is 'Cetak Rompak'. What is important is it is illegal. What's the point of arguing if it is already stated by law as illegal?
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kerana nila setitik, rosak susu sebelanga

those file hosters are also used by people who wants to have an online storage, similar to icloud etc to store their documents, files etc

that's why some people protests cause their important files are being blocked by the government because of piracy, cause that's the government reasoning behind all this fiasco

so at the end of the day, this is not mainly about piracy, although i do agree most of the contents are illegal-it's about internet censorship, which has been said is violating human rights

you cannot control the internet, and the things people upload to the net everyday, it's their right as a user of internet

but if one user was found to be sharing illegal file, he or she must be reported, provided that there's a solid proof he or she downloaded or uploaded the said illegal file, that's the only sensible thing to do, without hurting the masses


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post Jun 14 2011, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jun 14 2011, 01:11 PM)
Berubah mengikut peredaran zaman = hipokrit? Ke nak jadi pencuri selama-lamanya? Pastu nak perjuang keadilan etc. Gi mampos.

Masa budak curi buah, masa dewasa mesti rompak bank? Kalau tak berisiko jadi hipokrit lol.

Nowdays, with the wealth of information on the net, still got ignoramuses.. I'm amazed.
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Berubah? ROFL

boi you make me laff

cukup2 la tu nak jadi "angel" konon, dah berubah konon, a hypocrite will always be a hypocrite, no matter what shits coming out from their mouth defending what they did in the past

btw you curik buah no? you makan that illegal buah, your daging ada daging haram LOL

read between the lines

ignorant fool my arse
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post Jun 14 2011, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jun 14 2011, 01:15 PM)
^^ Inilah ciri-ciri pencuri beretika. tongue.gif
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aha a hypocrite calling other people thieves

made my monday, this idiot has
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post Jun 14 2011, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(sadako-chan @ Jun 14 2011, 01:23 PM)
Macam lah ko tak pernah buat salah.. sebab tu ada konsep taubat..

Unless of course, knowing it's wrong, you still do it anyway.
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ROFL

I rest my case
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post Jun 14 2011, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 14 2011, 01:26 PM)
I am not questioning the legality of said file hoster but rather the usage of Malaysian of the said websites


so why not track those that abuse the websites then?

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If there were none that use for illegal purposes then there wouldn't be a problem right? But there are. And the bulk of complainers are of from the piracy crowd. I'll shut up if the complain is based on legal usage, but shouting FREEDOM when all they do is piracy? I can only say padan muka to this people although I do feel sympathy to those that uses it legally.
oh boi you don't read that much, do you? Some have made complaints to MCMC due to their interrupted works done due to the blockage, in the early hours of the block, a few legal users complaint they can't send their notes to other researchers overseas due to that...so they made a complaint, albeit their numbers are few, their complaint still valid, no?

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However, as I said before, it doesn't matter what the argument is, is it legal or illegal? Answer that question.
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file hosters = legal

abusing file hosters by uploading copyrighted materials = illegal

so you punish the file hosters because "most" of their contents are illegal, great


QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 14 2011, 01:28 PM)
There is no taubat or repent in his dictionary, so don't bother.
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ROFL speaking like a true deviant

like i said before, I do not condone piracy

am I talking to morons here? nak discuss pun susah sebab banyak betul clairvoyant kat dalam forum ni can detect who's a saint and who's not

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post Jun 14 2011, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 14 2011, 01:58 PM)
Although you don't seem to read either. They are valid, sure. But my point is padan muka towards the pirates. Not towards the one with legal usage. Although one funny things is, whenever this kind of argument pops up, they will ALWAYS use these poor people for their own greedy self. I'm not talking about you per se, but there are a few people quoting these people just to worm off that they want a way out so they can continue pirating. Sad really using other people misfortune for their own advantage. Kinda like torrent and linux distro. I mean, how many people even torrent linux distro? And yet it never fails to be mentioned. I myself get it from direct download as quite a few distro provides direct downloads.
Haha you took the bait, ROFL

I do read long long debates on your "forum" but meh I don't pay much attention to them cause I found the arguments were made very seagates-ish


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Do you need to be a saint to say to another human being to not conduct such illegal activity?
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You misunderstood me sir

Nevermind

You won't win the internet also
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post Jun 14 2011, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(freezadwar @ Jun 14 2011, 02:42 PM)
oh really? malaysian minds are already corrupted.

so whats the diff if you censor or not? its good for the young ones, but for the old enough to think for themselves?

oh yes, and those unis are under which management?
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I can't see his post, that sadako chan guy, or girl?

He ignored me? ROFL how can he ignored me? We had such a good debate

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