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post Nov 15 2005, 09:24 PM


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soulfly, try to link them to here n we can start an argument here hehe
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post Nov 15 2005, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(songhan89 @ Nov 15 2005, 09:13 PM)
That fellow lives in kampung and never been to lowyat plaza be4 i think  tongue.gif . Anyway, would like to ask you guys a few questions:

1.How far can a 2500+ S754 clock with a pair of value ram? DDR400 Kingston ones. Don't have to be accurate but just share ur experiance will do.

2. Is Abit KV8Pro the mobo to go? If budget user i mean.....

Thank you very much . smile.gif
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isnt kv8pro is using i kt800pro? its not budget, as it nearly same price wit nf8.and it can lock pci agp better than kt800...
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post Nov 16 2005, 12:44 AM

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1. With DDR400, u can use divider when u hit higher FSB. But how high the FSB goes will depend on how good the memory controller is (which is basically depends on steppings/luck) and also the mobo (lower priority than memory controller).

2. I am assuming u r getting an AGP setup. So, KV8PRO is OK but I recommend NF8 (or DFI LP nF250gb if u can afford more budget.) I haven't seen KV8PRO getting FSB as high as NF8 (max is near 350MHz from Cyclone87 i think)
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post Nov 16 2005, 01:00 AM


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n songhan, try using apacer ram, kingston always got incompatibility issue with nf3 mobo, dunno pcb or chipset problem...
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post Nov 16 2005, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Nov 16 2005, 01:00 AM)
n songhan, try using apacer ram, kingston always got incompatibility issue with nf3 mobo, dunno pcb or chipset problem...
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wat u mean by incompatibility prob? cannot detect? cannot do high fsb?

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post Nov 16 2005, 02:34 AM


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i got some boot up issue last time using nf8 with kvr, the siren sound keep comin out for the 1st boot, this issue is being discuss at abit forum, or maybe my mobo problem?

n ya, normally s754 cant go high fsb with 2 stick of 512mb double sided value ram

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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Nov 16 2005, 01:16 AM)
wat u mean by incompatibility prob? cannot detect? cannot do high fsb?
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The incompability issue is unable to use memory divider,cant overclock high and sometimes an unstable system.And the BIOS have trouble finding your correct RAM speed and timing,like mine DDR400 3.3.3.8 detected as DDR333 2.5.3.4.2 shakehead.gif

Look at DFI-Street website BEFORE buying any DFI related mobe for incompability issue and try to look around for recomended memory for sucess overclocking

Heres the link for the recomended memory for overclocking (and it said that Corsair is NOT RECOMENDED) http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24719

Stupid DFI! Albatron doesnt require any of these these,my P4 2GHz easily going up to 3GHz with stock cooling and using Kingston DDR266 memory!!
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post Nov 16 2005, 12:04 PM

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DFI is not stupid ler.... Corsair's the one who make modules with 'funny' SPD ROM programming tongue.gif
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post Nov 16 2005, 02:12 PM

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ok guys...need ur help...
last time when i set fsb to 300, wit timing 3-3-3-8 and 133 divider it onli survive prime test ab 1 min. d torture test i use 'blend' setting.

then i up d vcore one step and wit d same timing, it survive d test around half hour.. doest it mean d thingy that limit my oc is d proc?

btw at my sig is my current setting...
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post Nov 16 2005, 02:26 PM

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what kinda corruption? windows?
stock setting also like that sweat.gif sad.gif cry.gif

btw what is HT multiplier for?



Its the end like flow of the overall speed...Just like soulfly explained try to keep it below 800 for 754 and 1000 for 939....above those speed it will no give u any advandtages anymore...other than instabilities....

if i'm running 270 x 8 can just let it stick at 4x HT or should i lower it to 3xHT?

270 * 4 aledi 1080mhz...yes u can go that high but try to keep it lower from 800mhz....like i replied on top...there are no gain in speeds...


dude.... he's on nF4 ler

270 x 4 = 1080MHz .... should be still okay if you don't have any problem with stability

or else lower the HT multi to 3x


i didnt see any semprons around with 939...so he should be on 754 and that is 800...


oh man.. u guys gile sial.. processor cheap but RAM freaking expensive.. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


not "gile"...but if should we don punishemnts should there be equipments to do it....if not we wont find the weaknees of whic parts failed to achieve...


issit? any value ram using this chipset?



if got i really wanna get one... tongue.gif
Sorry dude but no.... sad.gif


No... because the production cost is expensive. TCCD is strictly for performance RAM.

anyway.... just want to share a joke. someone trying to be clever

http://forum.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?ti...page%3D1&page=2

as far as i know, there is no sempron 3500+ priced at RM300 available in the market, and he refered to Lowyatt Plaza. heck... AMD was never produce it yet.... and he kept arguing with me that such thing does exist doh.gif




normal lar taiko soulfly...everybody wanna show that they are so clever and they tend to forget there is someone else cleverer than others each time he says that he is clever...


That fellow lives in kampung and never been to lowyat plaza be4 i think tongue.gif . Anyway, would like to ask you guys a few questions:

1.How far can a 2500+ S754 clock with a pair of value ram? DDR400 Kingston ones. Don't have to be accurate but just share ur experiance will do.

2. Is Abit KV8Pro the mobo to go? If budget user i mean.....

Thank you very much . smile.gif


mine is week 38 and will do 300 HTT on stock voltages...



soulfly, try to link them to here n we can start an argument here hehe


no need bringin idiots to and elite party...that will on either make him looks even stupid or brag intelligent people of being just as he is...


n songhan, try using apacer ram, kingston always got incompatibility issue with nf3 mobo, dunno pcb or chipset problem...


really???why not try advandce module...??its much cheaper and no one ever had any problems with them.... laugh.gif
its how u set that matters...not the Brand...


QUOTE(wtm0325 @ Nov 16 2005, 02:34 AM)
i got some boot up issue last time using nf8 with kvr, the siren sound keep comin out for the 1st boot, this issue is being discuss at abit forum, or maybe my mobo problem?

n ya, normally s754 cant go high fsb with 2 stick of 512mb double sided value ram
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Abit???Abit forum???the last time i was there is when somebody from lowyat.net try to prove me wrong by telling me that Fatality is much way better than SLI-DR... laugh.gif laugh.gif ...

But nevertheless try and tweak ur rams by setting the values in the bios manually or try inserting it in a diffrent slots...


QUOTE(Najmods @ Nov 16 2005, 03:16 AM)
The incompability issue is unable to use memory divider,cant overclock high and sometimes an unstable system.And the BIOS have trouble finding your correct RAM speed and timing,like mine DDR400 3.3.3.8 detected as DDR333 2.5.3.4.2  shakehead.gif

Look at DFI-Street website BEFORE buying any DFI related mobe for incompability issue and try to look around for recomended memory for sucess overclocking

Heres the link for the recomended memory for overclocking (and it said that Corsair is NOT RECOMENDED) http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24719

Stupid DFI! Albatron doesnt require any of these these,my P4 2GHz easily going up to 3GHz with stock cooling and using Kingston DDR266 memory!!
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HAHAHAHA....DFI Stupid...maybe they are...and people who tested them and get world records out of the board is stupid...and also people who acknowledge DFI is an idiot....

even my mushkin can't be detected as DDR400 in my DFI INfinity Nf4X 754...it is a cpu limitation and not DFI's fault...but nevertheless maybe its just me.... thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

Not recommended so the no good???Which side is stupid???DFI, Corsair, or OCZ???? laugh.gif laugh.gif

Comparing with Pentiums????hmmmmm...

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Mr Zorro, I edited some quotes that are not working. I guess it's IPB limitation. You can't have more than certain numbers of quotes because it won't simply work.

So any news? anything?
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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Nov 16 2005, 02:26 PM)

dude.... he's on nF4 ler

270 x 4 = 1080MHz .... should be still okay if you don't have any problem with stability

or else lower the HT multi to 3x


i didnt see any semprons around with 939...so he should be on 754 and that is 800...
hmm.... i thought the max htt speed depends on the chipset (nF3 and nF4), since he's using DFI NF4X.... not the socket design.

but i could be wrong unsure.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Nov 16 2005, 03:46 PM)
Mr Zorro, I edited some quotes that are not working. I guess it's IPB limitation. You can't have more than certain numbers of quotes because it won't simply work.

So any news? anything?
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thankz boss...no news rite now...hihihihi....still testing my sempron to be above 400HTT....hehehehe...dunno when siap..


QUOTE(soulfly @ Nov 16 2005, 04:11 PM)
hmm.... i thought the max htt speed depends on the chipset (nF3 and nF4), since he's using DFI NF4X.... not the socket design.

but i could be wrong  unsure.gif
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hehehe...i know pun bcoz of i'm using NF4X....hehehe...b4 this dunno...kimikikiki thumbup.gif

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maybe its true that s754 is set to 800, coz by default the multiplier is set at 4x, so 200x4=800. unless by default its 5x, then it should be 1000.

now im running 280 with 3x HT multiplier. still above 800 but passed 4 hours of prime with blend setting. cpu:ram is 1:0.7

this is just to test how high i can go with the fsb. will change the multiplier and divider later. idle temp is 40, load at 51

my question is, should i go for high fsb, high HTT or tight ram timing?

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QUOTE(ayiesz @ Nov 17 2005, 09:27 AM)
maybe its true that s754 is set to 800, coz by default the multiplier is set at 4x, so 200x4=800. unless by default its 5x, then it should be 1000.

now im running 280 with 3x HT multiplier. still above 800 but passed 4 hours of prime with blend setting. cpu:ram is 1:0.7

this is just to test how high i  can go with the fsb. will change the multiplier and divider later. idle temp is 40, load at 51

my question is, should i go for high fsb, high HTT or tight ram timing?
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high htt does not give any benefit

high ddr will only give benefit in memory bandwidth, and very minimal in overall performance

for K8 system.... what matters most is the highest clockspeed. high 'fsb' should contribute to higher clockspeed. with tight timing high speed ram, it's a bonus.
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Just got my sempron 2800+ today... thumbup.gif

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post Nov 17 2005, 09:32 PM

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no 1 wanna answer my question?
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Nov 17 2005, 09:32 PM)
no 1 wanna answer my question?
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your processor simply need more voltage
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QUOTE(adzley @ Nov 17 2005, 08:13 PM)
Just got my sempron 2800+ today... thumbup.gif
wow... 2.4ghz with default voltage... that's good thumbup.gif
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wow...nice processor you got there..hehe...wonder if you can hit 340HTT at stock voltage..if you can, that is surely a gem.. brows.gif

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