Can paddle shift car like New Honda City 1.5 drive like proton wira 1.5 manual car ?

Say,in traffic jam we used wira first gear to move the car from static .Let the car move a bit

then change to second gear.

How about the car like city with paddle shift ?

Used the way drive like mentioned above with paddle shift.....

Big advantage is without press the left clutch in honda city and comfort drive all the way.

Will this save fuel like wira 1.5 manual car during heavy traffic jam ?

Since i never drive paddle shift car before,please share ur experience.

Thanks in advance.

Paddle shifting is not save fuel...but to WASTE MORE FUEL...haha..

Actually, i have no idea....driving my Inspira on 'D' only...tried paddle shifting, but not really use to it...it's not like driving manual...more like playing video game....

Different people seems to have different theory....you can upshift quicker though than driving 'D', but you have to know your car well or you'll lose too much power when upshifting too early. The auto tranny will also not allow you to downshift too low if your engine is not in the right condition, security precautions.


This post has been edited by Matrix: Jun 10 2011, 08:00 PM

it not very useful if you up-shift, because it wont save much fuel, but it quite useful when you down-shift to pick-up/overtake/rev as high as possible let the vtec "kick in".

In fact i don't care about fast pickup,

I think the advantage of paddle shift is without the use of

manually press the clutch......

I'm getting sick and tiring of pressing the wira clutch.

I may buy honda city in future.

you dont really need to use it unless you need more pickup, D will let to drive to any place that a car can go in Malaysia

I think first gear in D mode will rev to higher before change to second gear.

This is the disadvantage of auto car, too much fuel wasted.

But with the paddle shift feature,we can act like change the gear manually like manual car.

Any car owner with paddle shift,please share ur experience.

ermm...try test drive it...

It depend on how hard on your right foot, if you press lighter, it change to next gear faster, usually before 3k rpm, if you up shift on 2k rpm or so, i think the car behind will hate you a lot

dowan to press clutch and and wanna drive like a manual car.. or faster than a manual car.. --->DSG pls...

I think the new honda city uses a conventional torque convertor instead of a CVT one right? Auto will never act like a manual, but you could try

From my experience if the speed does not correlate with the gear it will shift itself no matter which gear you told it to be in. For example if the speed is too low but you shifted into 5 for example, the ECU will downshift for you although you are in paddle shift mode. Same goes to if you over rev the ECU will upshift for you to prevent engine damage as much as you would like to remain in gear it wont allow.

u mean Auto will not be as fast as Manual?

If not mistaken, it have time delay when you are using sports mode.... So by the time ECU found out that the gear ratio not right, you already reach or pass that gear shift.... It is good on improve the FC. Like using D mode you get gear shift at 3000rpm but with sports mode you may change it at 2500rpm.....

Well, auto can be a fast as manual or even faster, if you floor your paddle.... But it won't be FC friendly....

go and check you CVT and Manual car FC.. same car just different gearbox.. see which model more FC friendly...

your definition not wrong.. just a bit outdated...

example you can check, the CVT vs Manual ALtis.. or Proton Inspira 1.8 CVT vs Manual...

Seems like i put too much hope on honda city .

Auto gearbox means auto gearbox ...paddle shift wouldn't help much.

I think i shud look for the real manual gearbox with paddle shift like DSG.....

Too bad they are selling sky high price.

Well, it depends type of roads you use.... If traffic jams only, auto still the best.....
More important is your right leg, which matters the most....

ai ya just buy a honda hybrid lah dont need all this mess, shift to D and press the paddle

^But not much people like that design....

I think the cheapest DSG u able to get is the Polo.. correct me if I am wrong...

U don't even need to shift.. let it run automatically.. it is faster than manual....

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Added on June 10, 2011, 10:18 pmDas Auto..



This post has been edited by BuFung: Jun 10 2011, 10:18 PM

That is good suggestion. Hybrid car for fuel save.

btw,how to do multiple reply in single reply ?

What button u all press ?

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Added on June 10, 2011, 10:31 pmManual change gear more fun.

That's the spirit of driving.

Of course no pedal clutch,please.

This post has been edited by jake23: Jun 10 2011, 10:34 PM

A manual car without clutch is not what you call manual la. With the existence of the clutch, this add spices to stick shifting car IMO.

+1

Manual driving is about balancing clutch and pedal and stick. You can't call car manual without a clutch. Paddles shift is nothing like manual.

Manual gearbox

1. Faster ... ow... <-- notice.. this is a fact

then..

2. better FC .. oww <-- this also a fact

then...

3. More Fun than peddle shift <--.. is this a fact.. ???

Whatever type of gearbox they make, they can never truly replace the manual. Yes DSG bla bla bla may have a slight advantage over conventional GB, but never as fun as a manual shift.

I feel disengaged from the car when the clutch pedal is gone but when the clutch pedal is there i feel as though the car is part of me.

Totally loving this reply !! Driving experience is the best with stick shift + manual .. not some flappy flaps or buttons ...

I love the feeling when you are coming down very fast in the straight and upon entering a corner you slot the stick into 3rd. That revs suddenly gone up high and loads of torque after the corner.

DSG can also do that but dislike 5th>4th>3rd.

You must understand that paddle shift will not give you total manual control of your transmission. It will downshift or upshift for you in certain conditions, as highlighted by the previous posts.

Personally for me paddle shift is not really that fun lah. Manual is the best!

^But then you must understand that not much manual models in Malaysian market..... Like US they have manual tranny Civic.....

Only AMT or DSG gearboxes can act like regular MT gearbox with paddle shifters except the engine don't die if u shift the wrong gear.

paddle shift cannot replace manual shift.

if might provide some 'manual' feeling to automatic car but still missed the total excitement of manual car.

No, actually it's the Ford Fiesta. About RM 80k. No manual override, though.

This post has been edited by lhwj: Jun 11 2011, 10:59 AM

Ford Fiesta is dual-clutch transmission right ? I don't think it has a DSG

ford version of dsg call powershift..... it is not as good as dsg....

Manual FTW!! Simplest structure, cheapest maintanence, cooler driving style.. just love to play the stick..

I have watch super sport cars like Ferrari F430 Scuderia and Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4 on Youtube.

The way they change the gear so cool.......

Just use the paddle shift.Of course without the left clutch pedal with nowadays technology.

Hopefully the japanese car manufacturer can come out with this manual gearbox technology.

But i guess this is not cheap.....

But then those are million ringgit cars..... Cannot compare like that....
Even the paddle shifters on the hundred k cars will have some problem aftrer 2-3 years(response will be slower).....

ur Japanese counter part....

i love using i-shift @ my bro's civic when driving at hill.. fast gear change.. but still love my manual kelisa

for me im suffering during jam with manual. but then is really enjoyable with manual when you driving. you when you want to change gear example. uphill.. taking corner.. downhill.. overtaking.. and so on.. so many things to write here..