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NewGUY
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 Jun 12 2011, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(0163119779 @ Jun 12 2011, 11:17 PM) lol...1k enought modi my bike kaw kaw already...haha start from your current bike mod of yours maybe enuf. for me, i x think x enuf.... i spend 1k++ d (include locks,cosmetics,wiring, parts and etc) still not really power also.. BTW, is it now all adjustable CDI any brand is ok? Recommended to push the RPM to 11k as the stock can go this high, it is just detune by Yamaha? Pros and bros, please advice.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 12 2011, 11:28 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 12 2011, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(blue_decamax @ Jun 12 2011, 11:26 PM) piston? i thought if white smoke that means petrol got into engine... is the other way round, engine oil goes to piston this happens if piston ring makan,piston shud be ok, normal top overhaul ok d... |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2011, 12:29 AM) @NewGUY,Jun 12 2011, 06:25 PM] Tire surface on the middle part uneven, like buncit but is in the middle surface,if still not get it , i angkat picture - Too bad you removed the tyre from rim already, if not can claim warranty one. I think this one consider tyre defect leh. But, Duro tyre not sure got dealership or not. I bought 2nd hand bike it come like tat,doubt can claim, dunno also wat previous owner did...@alexei, i think someone know the 4th gear not really suitable bcos the mech said got ppl change the 4th gear after jek rod, what this means? Btw workmanship include coolant, lump sum about Rm300 to change.OK? Here i m asking, the change 4th gear ratio, RM 300 expensive? - Yeah, I think normal price... change one small gear need to overhaul engine, remove and take apart everything. All coolant, EO, seal, gasket buka. I mentioned this to TryX before since he asked the same thing last time. 
- Better you consider change full set bearing and any other things inside that you wanna do altogether, like our bro Serigala dulu.Bro, besides bearing,the 4th gear, wat else?Got somemore things to change?@alexei, can help speculate whats goin on before i repair? After all install, get to see the Max RPM increase a bit by 9200 to 9600 on Koso meter. But still got problem, losing power after 3000 and before 5000, after 5000 then very good. I tot due to angin setting, ask the mech try bu kenot and another mech set already now the prob come back again. He said need open up the air filter first, if kenot need buka head,cam and others c lo. - Is choke open? Choke close, if not more worst...
- If not, you using hi cam or something? No idea wat cam, suspect also high cam
- If not, does the engine rev smooth during that RPM range? [i]is ok only when riding only become like tat[/i]
thanks, for the comments sifu, temporary ride 1st c how la....
Added on June 13, 2011, 1:06 ami ll just delay the above since not so serius, open up dunno 1k is enuf for wat is goin to change.... BTW, RM 300.00 include the 4th gear, if i wanna do i bring my EO and coolant,after all got about 3++ liters of preston coolant (i saw they just put nasa coolant) and EO just use normal for flushing or burn in later only put better.... good night everyone, see u tomolo... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 01:06 AM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2011, 10:08 AM) The file to calculate RPM, gearing and speed. [attachmentid=2270720] thanks bro, how i wish at least got at least about 30 to 40% of ur brain power than can do things better...haha My pro fren once i told him, we r modding bike, he no interest liao, sorry...i guess he will teach if not related to mod bike....he is in his 40s btw my work place super senior.....haha
Added on June 13, 2011, 10:42 amQUOTE(RobustRobot @ Jun 13 2011, 10:36 AM) just to re-confirm, service at 1000km and then 3000km? or within what period? @.@ yup, but depends on bike, for me i still can tolerate lose power abit but i cant tolerate vibration....u need monitor, from experience yamalube engine start vibrate around 1000 to 1500 rpm, after other things might come in for eg. lose power and etc....
Added on June 13, 2011, 10:45 amBTW, i cant read now since i need to be in admin mod, i check at home later thanks.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 10:45 AM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 01:27 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2011, 12:06 PM) Nah, no big deal, just some Excel formula. Let's continue to improve the file and distribute here.  bro,Btw, i m satisfy with 1: 1 ratio? have not reply me, what other things to change if i really go bonkers, changing the 4th gear...haha I had change last time my Y80 with racing bearing until i sell still ok..... Please advice the item, or just bearing is enuf? I get quotation and can share the pricing.... i goin thru the parts list now, i guess is 4 bearings only and the 4th gear right? i hope didnt miss anything....  |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 01:37 PM) tak faham ...  u mean u mau tukar bearing and 4th gear ??? I have gone thru with alexei previously and check the parts list for the transmission... This a better option than the jeking the connecting rod.... As I heard ppl, after jeking got problem will go this mod.. Basically, just the the 4 th gear ratio 1:1, so basically let the engine tarik lebih. The good thing is the piston output is same with the output with the shaft of 15T. I dunno this metaphor is correct or not, for car is basically the making the fly wheel lighter until ratio is 1:1 with the piston output..... You can throttle better since near to the tachometer reading.... get it?????  This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 01:48 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 02:03 PM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 01:52 PM) u mean tis 1st Gear - 2.833 (34/12) 2nd Gear - 1.875 (30/16) 3rd Gear - 1.353 (23/17) 4th Gear - 1.045 ( 23/22) changing this to 22T, others shud be ok, unless u 1 pickup faster somemore but no idea what to change but can try with the alexei spreadsheet Primary reduction ratio - 2.875 (69/24) - change to 22T will be near this Final reduction ratio - 2.600 (39/15) Since open up, then put in light bearings la for eg, FAG,SKF or NTN... This complex so this 1 time, then wont open again unless problem, others not so leceh.... correct me with i explain wrong..... |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 02:25 PM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 02:12 PM) if takde hal .. jarang orang go buka engine .. upah dah rm180 ... buka enjine ... wait until ur engine nak overhall baru buka lah ... i using FAG damn light bearing .. haha and gear 4 .. i see thy SELLING 20t or 21t ... Mine long way more to open la, if open just want to know wat is inside, so far i know the below only... 1) Confirm got air filter 2) Confirm stock exhaust 3) Confirm Stock CDI 4) Confirm FZ block (5YP) 5) Plug coil and cable changed 6) Need to confirm cam 7) Looking out wat else info, i x have.... i got a bit hal but not serious, storm say RM300 include gear, upah, EO,coolant and etc. Not ask if include bearing how much.... i goin ask them without EO and coolant can get how much, since just open, open normal oil first then slowly put better oil la.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 02:34 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 02:30 PM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 02:12 PM) Bro,takde 22T arr, all not suitable bcos if use their u need mod more things, use 20T/21T, our block can tarik meh? Gears in there more sensitive than the sprocket(1T makes a lot of difference), main tukar goin burn pocket damn big hole...
Added on June 13, 2011, 2:33 pmQUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 02:29 PM) use back normal bearing lah .... besi 1 ... ( asked UTM .. he said standard bearing dah cukup ) i get quotation and c how the pricing la, 1 by 1 la.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 02:33 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 02:33 PM) tht y ayam tak main gear box ratio .. most headache thing in the world .... even how smart the forman also tak nak main .... thy normally ask u buy 1 set racing gear box masuk ..... LC main top part adi nice .. lower part very hard to set till nice .. ( believe me ) tats y 1:1 ok d, who ask them do things nv calculate properly, trial and error, sure crack head la..... |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Kaizzya @ Jun 13 2011, 02:37 PM) can play 1.. got formula to calc it rite.. (*if not y ther's formula to calc boreXstroke = ??? cc) but all those formula is based on theory so the real output dun noe how.. the CC is just calculation of silinder formula, nothing new circle surface (pi X j square) x height = volume of silinder CC (centi cubic) is measurement unit (centi X centi= 10 power 2 X 10 power 2) if not wrong... gear box, gear ratio is complex, take almost 1 day to understand... alexei already come out with the simulation just download it and key the gears u 1 the, and the speed will come out.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 02:51 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2011, 02:50 PM) @NewGUY,Jun 13 2011, 01:27 PM] bro,Btw, i m satisfy with 1: 1 ratio? have not reply me, what other things to change if i really go bonkers, changing the 4th gear... Please advice the item, or just bearing is enuf? i guess is 4 bearings only and the 4th gear right? i hope didnt miss anything.... I thot I reply liao? Oil seal, water pump seal, engine cover oil gasket, bearings etc... Yes,u did, just confirming again....u should hear from TryX about his recipe to make the bike ringan... ask him how he start his bike these days. @ Tryx, what there in which version? [/i]  thanks for the comment,bro, good job.... |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 13 2011, 02:57 PM) i play with the calculation result : 14-20 =176.36 15-30 =125.97 15-33 =114.52 15-36 =104.98 15-37 =102.14 15-38 =99.45 Bro, counting sprocket or the gear inside?
Added on June 13, 2011, 2:57 pmterpulang batch masing masing ... tak silap .. 9k dah potong .... r u saying means our stock no need, harden the valve spring can go 11k? |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2011, 03:08 PM) 11k RPM = racing compression 14:1 + CAM profile and spring. Service interval = Every 200km.
Added on June 13, 2011, 3:11 pmIn the excel file, you can play with the parameters and see see the bike performance. I'm not rocket scientist, but I think the spec and real world performance of the bike quite accurate. Give it a try and share here. Stock bike peak hp is at 8500 RPM. Depending on riding habit, you can change peak RPM to 6k for city riding. Bro, Sorry maybe miscommunication,not saying ur spreadshet.... I m saying with stock things, is the uncut CDI can go until 11k rpm? Need so high compression ar? Just where this bike can go with stock stuff tats all.... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 03:18 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 13 2011, 09:48 PM
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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 13 2011, 06:44 PM) NewGuy - my bad, high RPM not necessary means high compression. But, at stock compression and stock CDI, after the peak @ RPM 8.5k, the hp of the bike will go down, as limited by CAM profile, compression and ignition timing. Perhaps, even limited by intake and exhaust too. bro, is ok, u r great help d.... I go some price here,just now go ask d at storm... 1) FAG main bearing - RM260.00 2) 4 th gear change to 22T - RM85.00 3) Workmanship, coolant, gasket and etc - RM200.00 This going to take full 1 day liao.... Maybe get done after next 2 service or later.... BTW, my meter i will test again cos now using 90/80 tire front... I going to paste the GPS temporary next to Koso meter then calibrate after get reading...  This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 13 2011, 09:50 PM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 14 2011, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(Itsuki_Kun @ Jun 14 2011, 12:18 AM) Chuan, at dream Moto accessories shop they got promotion.. 350 include install je.. The koso meter.. no in dream shah alam 320 can get d, include install the meter.... |
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NewGUY
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Jun 14 2011, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 14 2011, 12:42 AM) tht day tt qoute me rm350 siap pasang ...   TT 350, i remember we go ask together right... storm 320 i install at storm...
Added on June 14, 2011, 12:45 amQUOTE(Itsuki_Kun @ Jun 14 2011, 12:41 AM) waa.. there more cheap wor !! last time I buy 330 some more sendiri install.. they took almost 3 hrs and u manage to pasang sendiri..... This post has been edited by NewGUY: Jun 14 2011, 12:46 AM |
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NewGUY
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Jun 14 2011, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(Itsuki_Kun @ Jun 14 2011, 12:18 AM) Chuan, at dream Moto accessories shop they got promotion.. 350 include install je.. The koso meter.. if any of penang kia 1, i ask them how much without install and trouble bro thianz to bring it up....  |
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NewGUY
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Jun 14 2011, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(TryX @ Jun 14 2011, 12:59 AM) But i dont know how to install.... ask itsuki kun, he done it....if he want s help u... |
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NewGUY
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Jun 14 2011, 01:08 AM
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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 14 2011, 01:05 AM) recharging my wallet now ...... haizz ... luckly i still single ... if not i langsung canot main motor .... me too too, small mod still can, major 1 need wait wait long for another turn....lol |
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