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post Jun 28 2011, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 27 2011, 11:57 PM)
0. blok banjir ah ..  petrol masuk lah ... tapi macam compression tak cukup to push itu piston .... suara macam nak mati mati ... but u drop gear ... thn will ok back ... normaly is naik bukit , cerun only happend lah

1. ur piston size / 2  = carb size ... dun over it .. tht wat those otai otai teach lah ... 60/2 =30 .. so use 28-30mm most suitable ... depend poman hand also  ...

2. i got everything disk part + rim under my bed adi .. just malas nak pasang .... scare performance drop .. 

3 dyno rm50 satu kali ..

4. 10k .. pusing habis , meter habis lah ....
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0) so mind also got banjir at Karak highway got 1 portion, no idea y, all other way ok... fuuny ar...

1) then my FZ block more confident wit the 28mm carb d...

2) racing CDI + 28mm carb + uma tengkuk + cut filter box + setting + ride it CAM + workmanship = 320+400+75

Expensive?
I ask few ppl using the storm CDI, they say ok. Just ask the pakcik wit the LCES with storm CDI + Yoshi + 57mm + 28mm carb. I ask he is ok..

Then got another SS LC saw also using the storm CDI on std carb, others not sure....

I pay deposit 100 d

BTW, i confirm 1 the carb or CDI
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Kaizzya @ Jun 28 2011, 12:05 AM)
0 -> becoz of gravity
but sumtimes at flat road also will kena..
LOL
But now our LC all use suction, gravity flow old bike, now mostly suction as i know la...

Mine, go up also kena, then go down also kena...funny, just at tat particular place....


Added on June 28, 2011, 12:12 am
QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 28 2011, 12:09 AM)
@Kai: sounds like a bike that owner don't jaga one... has it reached 100,000km already still never do top service?
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@alexei

motor kuat , minyak kuat mah

ppl still believe this...hahahah sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Jun 28 2011, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(budakmentah @ Jun 28 2011, 12:12 AM)
@newguy - how about this sunday? hopefully this sunday im free..
if saturday i cant meet u because going to some place..maybe this sunday for kl geng we can do a ride to bukit tinggi.. biggrin.gif..
since last month i didnt ride to bukit tinggi..
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if make my mind wit all the mod, then can test power liao..... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(budakmentah @ Jun 28 2011, 12:22 AM)
i will double confirm for weekend ride to bukit tinggi on this friday..
@newguy - for the padding.. maybe if u at storm around 6-8pm.. u can roger me. later i can go storm n buy the padding..
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u ok mean weekdays 6 to 8 pm? ok...

i was there at 8 pm till almost 9 pm....
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(0163119779 @ Jun 28 2011, 12:22 AM)
Haha...Eric...Dunt change your cam la...>< Better stick to ori cam or upgrade to Fz cam....Last time thainz also purcahse a low and high cam but totally fail...And Rideit cam....>< No comment...Hehe...actually..In karak highway..U can ride ur bike in fast line...Guess what? Karak highway is the most exciting highway in malaysia...it's just not only straight road but include corner,down hill and etc...haha...It also call the most corner highway in malaysia...haha
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CAM not confirm change, i hope is not need change also... but no change then if got the funny funny symptom like the Karak highway, and the between 3k to 4k problem, it is actually tat between tat RPM kena 1, last time after change the big manifold, flat road ok,now happen again....
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 12:34 AM)
ofcoz kuality tak sama lah ...  harga pun dah beza .... but i suggest pakai aftermaket cam cuba dulu  ....  1 fz cam can buy 3 cms cam .. not include installation ....
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i m taking RIDE IT la not CMS, thailand high cam if need....
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 12:37 AM)
y u say till .. pakai CMS can sure ada problem .... hmm.gif  pakai FZ = sure wont have problem ....


Added on June 28, 2011, 12:38 am
got 1 brand call kawaxxxxx .. palex ada jual 1 ....

ride it apa harga ???

now apa macam macam brand ... i also  rclxub.gif
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price tag 115, if install together then get 75, too cheap?
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post Jun 28 2011, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 12:52 AM)
blok fz ... rm330
cam 200 
upah rm120 

whn ur time price might drop but upah might go up ...  suggest u go buy everything urself be4 send to UTM masuk ..
u only need 2 thing .. cam , blok  + gasket ... other .. thy should know wat to do .....

btw .. today play rock oil collent .. rasa macam sabun .. licin licin 1 ... bau macam kelapa sawit .... color biru
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maybe just change the carb and CDI, worry open up later got another thing besides the cam... god knows wat will happen inside...

BTW, really kasar the engine, EO reach 1700++ d...not really nice feeling.... brows.gif brows.gif

maybe tomolo change EO.....

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post Jun 28 2011, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(0163119779 @ Jun 28 2011, 12:58 AM)
Thainz...U know how much for the ori gasket?? Rm350++ is most easy to find...Rm200 cam is normal la...Upah Rm120 ok ....But others such as cooling oil engine oil ++ ><
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coolant 15

EO 30 or 40 oni ma
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post Jun 28 2011, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 01:06 AM)
EO u pakai

brand apa ??? 
gred apa ???

5-40  fuyoh ringan doh  (FULLY)
10-40  biasa                  (semi  , fully )
10-50 long distance , berat sikit  ( semi , fully )


apa u pakai ?  icon_idea.gif
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previous EO leftover of fully mobil, fully elf and yamalube..... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

currently my oil is all leftovers of castrol, yamalube and some US oil, finish d then can consider other oil lo....

5-40 fuyoh ringan doh (FULLY) can use meh? not recommend by manual, only up to 10-40
10-40 biasa (semi , fully ) manual recommend
10-50 long distance , berat sikit ( semi , fully ) not notice this oil....
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post Jun 28 2011, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 28 2011, 02:23 AM)
The recommendations by pomen-pomen or otai-otai really have experience, so their words also got some credit.
Here are my recommendations, follow or not, is up to you. I am not saying they are wrong.
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Correct me if i m wrong, so yours is base on peak RPM where after this that the torque and power band will decreasing right? this will normally can be seen on the dyno graph, i seen a few graph tats i came out with this idea....

Is base on the otai-otai is the maximum or most max RPM for a block?

So, can conclude tat means the Yamaha eventually limit the LC not just on CDI and carb as well base on efficiency?

Even, i have uncut CDI, stock carb still kenot push high enuf unless with the bigger carb....

bro, what do you think ? any idea?
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post Jun 28 2011, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 01:33 AM)
ok lur .. ada wang ada bearing ... i x kisah .. just wana help u save duit jer .. u dun want .. nvm ....


Added on June 28, 2011, 1:34 amtml ah .. not sure woh .. mayb go mid vally tengah hari .. nak pergi cuci mata sekejap ...  very dry tis few day ...
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@tim, i forgot ask, since u dyno d, wats ur bhp? 20? 25?
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post Jun 28 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(0163119779 @ Jun 28 2011, 11:08 AM)
Lol...Thainz now mia power i think 23hp+-...with open eksoz i think go 25...But dyno first then said la..>.<
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he already do 1 time ma right? or not yet?
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post Jun 28 2011, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(patrickloo @ Jun 28 2011, 11:17 AM)
how much have to invest to get 23 horsepower ?
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no yet confirm by bike owner, he only say max RPM 10k....

@thianz, whr r u, please kindly update us?..... drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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post Jun 28 2011, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 02:06 PM)
@newguy ... good morninig .. i baru bangun from my warm warm bed .....

har .. actually .. want go 23 hp .. manyak senang mia ... see u want play macam mana 1st  .....

mula mula potong

main HEAD  > port & porlish  ikut piston type and size
piston main high compression kalau u mau power tapi tak digalak for long distance pasal high compression panas .... so guna low compression selamat and pergi convoi pun selamat

pastu go custom pipe arcording ur mod spec .. operate habis ur pipi .. than thy will add / remove thing inside ... tak bising , more air flow , more pickup

carb , setting cun , power mari juga

if ada model , masuk jek rod .. tapi kena turun engine ( since ur engine still gooding , dun galak to waste money to kacau 1 )

cam yang suitable will help increase POWER/ HP depends the degree of the cam ....

wat eles ...  oh ya ..

CDI 

magnet 

coil 

finally , sudah power , offcoz need upgrade safty features ... tukar brake caliper yang besar for more grip ....  my single piston canot tahan the speed now ....
addition , i overhault the bike tht day ... tht y cost me a boom .... kalau condiiton is good .. the duit might can main habis for up performance liao  nod.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Bro, whats your hp after dyno yesterday?

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post Jun 28 2011, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 02:28 PM)
i din dyno yet .. kena saving budget for vacasion  tml until next month  july  ..... so my bike is available .. kunci will cucuk kat sana .. siapa nampak dia dapat ...  rclxms.gif  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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how much roughly u install the TZM carb?

is it 180+60+ 45=285, is tat all u spend for this?


Added on June 28, 2011, 2:35 pm
QUOTE(Kaizzya @ Jun 28 2011, 02:26 PM)
6.0 x 6.0 x 5.87 x 0.7854 = 165.970728

6.0 is block size and piston size rite?..

0.7854 means what?  icon_question.gif
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do u know how to calculate silinder volume, is the same 1..

pi=3.142 d=60mm r= 30mm, stroke = t=58.7mm

silinder volume is = pi x r2 x t = 3.142 x 30 x 30 x 58.7 = 165707.28mm3

convert to cubic centimeter (CC) is divide by 1000 =165.70728 CC or 166 CC

get it?

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post Jun 28 2011, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(thianz @ Jun 28 2011, 02:45 PM)
yup .. u sudah calculate for me ...

180 carb tu
60 intake pipe
45 upah , jet , setting etc
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new keihin 28mm carb, uma intake, mod, jet, setting 400 expensive?

i still thinking whether 1 to c wat cam i m using or not.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(TryX @ Jun 28 2011, 03:01 PM)
28mm confirm makan minyak than normal.... Ask Thianz see his 30mm minyak syiok or not? tongue.gif
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i ask 1 guy his LC ES 2011 57mm,28mm carb, racing cdi, yoshi,rider uncle which is bigger size than shyan, givi box, plug coil and etc can get per tank 130km/h almost same like shyan on std block, yoshi, bore up carb to 24mm...

From this comparisons looks ok ar....


Added on June 28, 2011, 3:12 pm
QUOTE(TryX @ Jun 28 2011, 03:01 PM)
28mm confirm makan minyak than normal.... Ask Thianz see his 30mm minyak syiok or not? tongue.gif If can get 26mm ok liao de im also looking 26mm but no money get one yet i scared makan minyak also... New guy u say there have 26mm mikuni with TPS ma? as u mention just now 200++? can post de ma?
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380 with installation, i try post pic later after work...

no no tats, keihin 28mm 280, yesterday night i got post about it...

exactly same like ori just bigger...

TPS, cable and choke all same same just plug and play....

i want use 28mm bcos i m using 57mm block.....

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post Jun 28 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(TryX @ Jun 28 2011, 03:15 PM)
If keihin i think i know liao PE28 carbs tongue.gif From Thailand de. But one thing different is here no TPS... I wonder what model carb is that also laa or they modify put TPS?? Please show pic tongue.gif Is the carbs got the yellow dial de? I prefer 26mm donno there have or not? Slider type Mikuni/Keihin with TPS de.
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the carb is mikuni 26mm, slide type with tps.... later i get pic for this....

on bike for 28mm is NSR...this is the 1 i m getting...

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post Jun 28 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(0163119779 @ Jun 28 2011, 03:22 PM)
Lolx...More power and same fuel consumption...><
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std 54mm use 26mm can go la....shud be good

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