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post Jun 20 2011, 10:39 AM

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Who got test drive BLM 1.6 here??? Is it available for test drive already?
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post Jun 21 2011, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 21 2011, 10:39 AM)
After few weeks on the road, my SAGA FL, managed to get 300km in 30L  rclxm9.gif  but the fuel indicator is dumb, blinking so far ahead, scared me as i've traveled about 30+km while its blinking... then pump in fuel tank only to know that it's 29.xx L, like it doesnt want me to use the balance 10L fuel only  doh.gif
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Why do people wanna use until tank empty? What purpose does it serves? It does nothing except maybe blowing up your pump and cost you a hefty repair....doh.gif .....There is more easier and more accurate way to calculate fuel consumption which is simply record the last mileage trip against the amount of fuel you currently pump.
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post Jun 30 2011, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jun 30 2011, 11:40 AM)
Guys, if you're at the workshop to change your engine oil, be sure to puncture a hole on the bottle of engine oil you're not intending to bring back. This is to ensure that the bottle would not be recycled to fake engine oil suppliers and would be beneficial for all of us in the long run.
Most shops, whether its a Proton SC or local repair shops i know do keep empty bottles of oil for god only knows what purpose. rolleyes.gif
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Simpan minyak masak... whistling.gif..yeah, it's good idea....grab all the bottles back, puncture it then throw away.

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post Jul 22 2011, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(yngchung @ Jul 22 2011, 03:34 AM)
I prefer they say can trade in without top up? or free exchange CVT for us...
BTW, today when I refill petrol n counted for saga fl1.6...
451km to 628km(full tank) fill Rm43.90

24.85sen per km~~ city use no h/w...

I personally feel very high.. =.= I only change my tyre to 205/55 R15 but I dun think will cost that high FC bah...

and change exhaust muffler.. before install is 28sen if u all saw my previous post... after install now is 25sen BUT I not mean the exhaust muffler save fuel, juz my foot lighter recently... =.= pain for high fc... :S
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Seriously bad FC..at 7.66km/l...i thought Saga can do at least 9km/l in city drive.....your FC is same or worst than my Inspira in City drive....sweat.gif..

Anyway, i am excited to test drive the Saga FLX also....but i dun expect FC will improve much....Proton mentioned 4% improvement previously. Somebody in Inspira thread got some tips from salesman saying the FLX might be launch this Saturday? Soft launch perhaps??

But i do agree Proton likes to butt hutt owners....the longer you wait, the better the deal...just like Inspira...now got 5 years free service...doh.gif....but small matter compares to new FL owners.... REALLY butthurt....sweat.gif
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post Jul 22 2011, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 22 2011, 09:51 AM)
well...weirdly saga cannot get their real FC directly
need to do at least 3 service be4 the real FC comes out
so he'll have to wait until hes done 10K KM service 1st
saga owner didn't butthurt...myvi owner more butthurt seeing it...myvi with abs already 55k...if add CVT, i dn't know how much p2 will charge us for it
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What do you think the price will be for CVT Saga...now FL 1.6 how much?? I suppose CVT could be 7 -8k more??
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post Jul 22 2011, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jul 22 2011, 10:53 AM)
Heck, i am going to collect my waifu 1.6L today, who is moar butthurt...?  sad.gif
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 22 2011, 12:26 PM)
i think your 1.6L FL would be different than this
the CVT for 1.3L is to make the gear change smoother and FC bit better
1.6L is more on power....
if i ask me...i'd still go for 1.6L FL...less underpower
the 1.3L with CVT i think still have problem with the high performance aircon...cuz no hp increase

Added on July 22, 2011, 12:28 pm
there's only one version of CVT...no manual or auto
but still waiting for a clearer view of the GB
like got what mode there and whats that button on the right side
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CVT only for 1.3??? doh.gif I thought 1.6 also got CVT rite?
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post Jul 22 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Jul 22 2011, 11:26 AM)
Yeah, do some rally outside the Proton Edar  tongue.gif

CVT + ABS  drool.gif  Maybe can trade in my 1st Gen BLM for the new BLM brows.gif
Think how much they going to take? Last month they quote me 23k max. Mine manual
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wear Bersih T-shirt outside COE.... brows.gif

Later all kena tangkap....became headlines in malaysiakini.com...
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post Jul 22 2011, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 22 2011, 03:06 PM)
saga cycle end it next next year(2013)
next year is persona
i thought the CVT would be in the new saga at 2013...apparently it isn't
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But i dun think got replacement so soon lar....will sell for another 5 to 10 years....coz it's Proton best seller mah....Proton cannot afford to chop off their 'mai fan pan chu'.(Rice bowl master).
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post Jul 22 2011, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 22 2011, 03:21 PM)
no...ever since they change management
they already have a policy of recycle every series every 5 years...follow japanese
next year would be persona's turn
next next year would be saga
unlike the old management...1 car sell 10 years...lol
but i think they will only cycle 5 car only...persona, saga, exora, waja(inspira) and perdana(this one really dn't know when will come out but is said to be based on nissan fuga)
the others model i think will be left
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I think Proton will now concentrate on developing the B-Segment, B+ Segment and MPV....Saga, Persona, Exora....the C-Segment like Inspira and Perdana, will be all OEM rebbadged.....they can't afford to develop cars for this segment as sales is not high for this segment....but still most likely the platform will be the same (Saga/Savvy chassis for B segment, Exora chassis for Persona and Exora), engine the same (Campro 1.6/1.3) with Turbo/CPS variations.

I wonder if Proton has any plans to develop a new engine...Campro is really getting long in the tooth.
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post Jul 22 2011, 08:56 PM

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I think Project phoenix old story lar...it is referring to the Campro Turbo.
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post Jul 23 2011, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jul 23 2011, 12:33 AM)
tmr....  whistling.gif  1.7K more expensive then current 1.3L but with CVT and ABS. sweat.gif
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ONLY 1.7k??? Fuiyo...current BLM FL owners seriously butt-hurted!!! i feel for you guys...
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post Jul 23 2011, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 23 2011, 12:20 PM)
i've tried 150 in a nissan grand livina.

never will repeat the same mistake
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Why?? U crashed the car??? laugh.gif
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post Jul 23 2011, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 23 2011, 01:02 PM)
o'really?
thn u come sabah...alot here
hilux, land cruiser, V35, fairlady..all big cars
but still quiet alot driving myvi and viva
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Sabah no choice lar....have to go off road if need to travel to some places, of course need big car, Viva/Myvi can only be used in town. My wife's from Sabah. Kolombong is my 2nd hometown. Will be going there in October again..smile.gif

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post Jul 24 2011, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 23 2011, 09:56 PM)
your car is still new..dn't expect good FC directly
this is the weird thing abt saga as well
u need to do 3 service ...1k, 5k and 10k KM be4 good FC will come

Added on July 23, 2011, 9:58 pm
yes....CVT have lower RPM if u cruise highway...
we dn't know saga CVT yet but inspira's CVT 120KM/H is 2K RPM only
so if that happens to saga....6L/100KM is possible
mine whole tank 30L can get approx 440KM
a few members here already hit the 400KM mark with full tank
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Inspira 2.0cc CVT is 2.2 - 2.3k RPM @ 120 km/h. But i don't think Campro 1.6 can do the same, it also depends on the power of the engine, not just the CVT alone can reduce RPM. I think Inspira 1.8cc CVT has higher RPM at same speed.

Anyway, IMO, FC wise, all cars running on highway has decent FC, (if you drive normally 100km - 120km/h). It is only in city drive where it sucks fuel. Like me 100% city drive...what CVT also all useless... tongue.gif

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post Jul 24 2011, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 24 2011, 11:34 AM)
everyone here also thought so....so dn't open it
for me...whenever i open it....the opposite traffic car always beam me high light...signal me as though i open high light
saga...low light + fog lamp = high light

Added on July 24, 2011, 11:36 am
it depends on how many gear u have actually
the CVT have 6 spd if not wrong...
saga in other hand only have 4 spd....which explains the high RPM and bad FC
vios have 5 spd...that explains their good FC
so any mod to increase the number of gear actually will improve everything
like a 5 spd GB would already be enough
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I think VIOS has good power delivery in low end torque compared to CAMPRO, not so much because of 5 gears. That is why city drive it'll definitely beat SAGA in FC for city drive. Having a 5 speed for SAGA will give a better FC in the highway probably, but do nuts for city drive...which can barely reach 4th gear before the next traffic light.

Number of gears or speed step(CVT) have no bearings for city drive FC. I bet some old P2 autos with 3 gears autobox like Kenari probably have better FC than a SAGA, due to smaller engine and lighter chassis.

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post Jul 24 2011, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 24 2011, 01:55 PM)
the ori tyres proton give is just a simple cheap tyre only
lowest spec
if u change to better tyres ...it would be better
every car company also like this...they won't gv u good tyres
plus how old is your tyre?..i think pretty old
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But Proton gives Continental CC5 tyres for Inspira wor...including full spare tyre... brows.gif

As for the skidding, i think it possible brake lock on wet roads?? I have encountered this b4 many years ago in an old Nissan 130Y....wet roads, going about 100km/h-110 km/h on Federal highway. Stupid 4WD suddenly jumps into my lane and i had to break hard causing it to swerve left/right....maybe lack of ABS is one such factor contributing to this.

After that, i dun dare go more than 80km/h on rainy days.

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post Jul 25 2011, 07:28 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jul 25 2011, 07:20 AM)
Suddenly got a feeling--->
Perodua is like Apple, create very few products with good looking and sell for premium price.

Proton is like Andriod, create tons of products with great value but always bugged with issues.
IFag -> Proton basher

DriodFag -> Perodua basher

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Last i checked, iphone explode and blow up in your face. Android is a much safer bet. rclxms.gif

Pls.lar...Perodua, Premium??? I wanna vomit. BMW/Merz Premium i can accept. Perodua?? Perodua is more like Symbian....dead in the water.

Android and Proton rulz!!!

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post Jul 25 2011, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jul 25 2011, 07:39 AM)
Sell for Premium, doent mean the product is premium.  laugh.gif
Yet, u still see ppl queuing like mad to buy Apple/Perodua products...  whistling.gif
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People queue up to buy Apple because it's Premium, People queue buy Perodua because they kena conned it's Premium. tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2011, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jul 25 2011, 06:27 PM)
brows.gif  brows.gif
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Just wait for the new Persona R/Tuah lar...CAMPRO CFE + CVT + Sexier design + bigger car... brows.gif

btw, some people says the 1.6 FLX coming this week, but i doubt it....

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