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 PROTON SAGA BLM & FL CLUB V13

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post Jun 30 2011, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 30 2011, 01:58 PM)
yes...it is reused....i dn't know how SC did it
but if u go SC outside ...they will use seal tape and seal the plug 1st be4 screwing it bac
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Sealing tape? The white tape? Like used for sealing thread of parts in plumbing?

That's kinda "UNprofessional" in car servicing, rite? whistling.gif

ps. BTW is the ORI gasket made of fibre or copper? Din really hv a good look at mine at that time.... rolleyes.gif

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post Jun 30 2011, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Jun 30 2011, 02:26 PM)
Is it necessary to change the drain plug everytime we change the oil?... my old car never change the drain plug... nothing happen also... no oil leaking at that area...
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The Drain Plug is NOT changed...the Gasket for the Drain Plug is supposed to be changed @each Oil Change Service. tongue.gif

I rber old VWs used a copper gasket as a seal. So it was quite permanent... rclxms.gif

Does anyone know if our gasket is made of fibre or ... ?
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post Jun 30 2011, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud9Nos3 @ Jun 30 2011, 03:11 PM)
.... Cost would be RM34k++ include new 1st party insurance.  sad.gif  quite pricy uh for a normal blm.
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post Jun 30 2011, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 30 2011, 03:47 PM)
hah??...got gasket meh?
all i see is they unscrew a bolt that is used to plugged those hose only
but it's metal....i only see a bolt...there is no gasket
u mean sometime like this ...right?
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yes.....i only see the bolt when they unscrew it and screw it back...there is no gasket
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Yup. smile.gif However, dun think it's a metal washer la coz fr afar, it's like reddish(?) colour. Mayb a fibre-type gasket?
Saw mech pick it up fr used oil collecter top & refit to drain plug (bolt in yr pic) b4 plugging up sump drain hole. wink.gif
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post Jun 30 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 30 2011, 06:04 PM)
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Congrats, bro!! notworthy.gif
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post Jun 30 2011, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 30 2011, 06:51 PM)
@ +Newbie+

whats your body weight? and to the rest getting 200-350km per tank

i'm on to something here
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Secret to GOOD FC? icon_idea.gif nod.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jul 1 2011, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jun 30 2011, 09:47 PM)
@zeone :

The full synth i confirm you saw at Tesco @ RM148 is correct as it is on promotion now
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Yup, and it's API SM. May get 1 bottle 4future 10k Km service. wink.gif

@rajivshm : My FL has stock exhaust. Tailpipe is straight but comes with sp tail end.

My FC now avg 11.5Km/L...mixed driving. Feel ok la. My ole 1.5L ride gave me LESS & on RON 97, too!!

@torresism & @MR_alien : For major xpensive parts replacements, feel safer to hv them done @Proton SCs cos such carry some period (mayb 3/6 mths?) warranty! Do outside wkshops hv such warranty?
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post Jul 1 2011, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 1 2011, 08:42 AM)
like timing belt kit...not sure SC carry any warranty
but if u bought outside....bosch or gates brand...it carries 1 year warranty and it guarantees 100000KM
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Fr wat I kno, Proton do hv warranties for parts replaced by them.
However, if like wat yu say, then changing Timing Belt outside=much BETTER!! 100k Km warranty is very good indeed! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

@ericmaxman : Yup, driver's wt definitely factor coz part of load moved by engine!
For better FC, all unnecessary stuff shld be removed. Any additions, mods that hv weight eg heavier rims/tyres, wld add to burden/load on engine & therefore increases FC! wink.gif
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post Jul 1 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jul 1 2011, 11:28 AM)
I really feel like changing the engine oil to Eneos now since I aly bought it, can I just change the engine oil without going to SC and by 15k I go back to SC and buat tak tau? laugh.gif
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Of course yu can!! Dun think a diff brand oil is so diff when time to change it ie dat's why called "minyak hitam" by most ppl!! Haha! icon_rolleyes.gif

Added on July 1, 2011, 11:56 amBro jerrymouse, yu asked re location of boot alarm sensor or not? 4got, huh? No mention in yr post? sad.gif

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post Jul 1 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(jerrymouse @ Jul 1 2011, 12:07 PM)
hey bro...sorry forgot to mentioned here ><
the boot sensor according to the mechanic is located behind the "boot lock" ..u can see a it behind the boot lock and it is quite hidden under those "carpet material insulator" ..although I cant really see the sensor there but the mechanic say that is the sensor part wor >< hahaha ....and according to him, BLM or MAYBE FL has this boot sensor normally, Solution -> bang harder....I LOL-ed after he say that

Added on July 1, 2011, 12:08 pmforgot to add, so in the end the SC guy didnt fix anything..he even put my car there for 30 minutes and wait to see if any alarm triggered >.<
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TQ, bro! Do appreciate it! One day, when brave enuf, will open boot carpet cover 2hv look-see! Haha! thumbup.gif
Bang harder? Wat a way 2solve car prob!! ROFL!! rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 1 2011, 03:03 PM

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C'mon, everybody... We bought our cars knowing fully well its expected FC (read flyers, brochures, reviews, etc).

Wat's all that abt FCs? Find that issue predominates practically EVERY car forum!! sad.gif

Decision made. Done deal. Let's enjoy our cars...period! nod.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 1 2011, 03:08 PM

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@ericmaxman : Quote fr yr quote...
"...originally it was "fuel consumption may be bad, but i still love to see myvis toppling over""

Feel saying good abt one's choices is BETTER than to condemn or say bad abt others...true? icon_rolleyes.gif

Added on July 1, 2011, 3:10 pmps. No one car is PERFECT! wink.gif

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post Jul 1 2011, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(max_cjs0101 @ Jul 1 2011, 04:10 PM)
Nah, just didnt use it as i dont have anywhere to go using a car.
But i'll be changing my own engine oil soon.
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DIY? Or @Proton SC? Mayb hv good look @gasket for Drain Plug? rolleyes.gif
Then post to enlighten us? TQ in adv. notworthy.gif
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post Jul 1 2011, 11:45 PM

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Frankly, there's NO need for any confusion here re SAE grade of engine oil to be used for ANY car... wink.gif

Juz need to read that part of your Owner's Manual for the info.

Normally a no. of SAE grades (Multigrade) will be recommended, according to the ambient temperature of the country. The decision as to which one to use is YOURS!!

What is being stated most of the time is what the Proton SCs are using...and MOST ppl are assuming that is the "Official" oil recommended by Proton. rolleyes.gif

BUT is it really? icon_idea.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Jul 2 2011, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(DeMl @ Jul 2 2011, 02:37 AM)
anyone knws hw to open steering cover?
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Advice : If BLM/FL with airbag, pls dun try DIY 2open that cos dangerous!! icon_rolleyes.gif

Added on July 2, 2011, 8:26 amps. AND xpensive, too! rclxm9.gif

Good morning, fellas!! rclxms.gif smile.gif

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post Jul 2 2011, 09:14 AM

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Most steering covers (w/o airbags) are attached by screws fr its underside. If no screws, then probably juz clipped on?
Easiest 2get help fr Accessories Shops... wink.gif
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post Jul 2 2011, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(ericmaxman @ Jul 2 2011, 10:36 AM)
grrr

more and more scratched on my ride
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post Jul 2 2011, 11:48 AM

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Eureka! Me finally got "eyes"... rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

Yup, the Boot Sensor for BLM/FL alarm (and boot light) was right b4 my eyes but I din see it!!
Missed it cos expected it 2b of similar design to those of doors & bonnet! Phew! doh.gif

Here are pics me took juz now ... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hope above helps when yr car alarm kenot b armed & the Boot area sensor is suspected as being the cause. Pls chk those terminals...or use a Contact Cleaner Spray (in case poor contact due to oxidation/dirt/oil, etc)

Hv a nice day! I will...now!!! rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 2 2011, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jul 2 2011, 12:46 PM)
not just 1.6FL,my 1.3FL on the manual they recommend SAE10W-30 or equivalent "service sl" or higher
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Dunno if Manuals are same but in copy given 2me for my FL (2011), in English on Pg 105, it shows in graphic form :

-10 -> 50+ dec C : 20W40 or 20W50
-15 -> 50+ deg C : 15W40 or 15W50
-25 -> 50+ deg C : 10W40 or 10W50

-25 -> 40 deg C : 10W30

Then in text, it states :
"2. Use engine oil conforming to the following API classification: SAE20W-50 or equivalent API "For services SJ" or higher.

Note: Using engine oil with a lower API classification will void the warranty."

Now what do yu think all that meant? whistling.gif:

Added on July 2, 2011, 4:03 pmps. Manual is printed on OCT 2010 (Stated on Back Cover).

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post Jul 2 2011, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(sam9557 @ Jul 2 2011, 05:04 PM)
Hi,
herewith the attachment revised for page 105 on Owner's Manual.
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Hi sam9557!
Feel I stand corrected...TQ 4latest update! notworthy.gif

In this aspect, feel Proton shld send such info to existing owners or at least via email/other means w/o incurring undue expenses eg thru their SCs! rolleyes.gif

Now which SAE viscosity shld we use?

Earlier info (Oct 2010) advises 20W50 in text; now (2011...no mth?) says 10W30 but SCs using 10W40...

If we look at all the recommendations, all those grades can be used AS LONG AS THE API RATING IS HIGHER THAN SL... Agreed? rclxms.gif thumbup.gif


IMHO, it now boils down to OUR choice & decision ie if SCs allow us to make that decision... wink.gif
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