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ahpaul82
post Aug 30 2005, 03:23 PM

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Dont know whether is it a suitable place to post or not ..

Anything idea what cause failed ? sad.gif

2x512MB Corsair TwinX DDR400 v1.4, running at 270MHz, 2.5-4-3-7,1T, 3.2v

memtest run >7hours same setting with3.0v no error.
but in window i need to adjust to 3.2v blink.gif

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here is my tweaker setting :
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post Aug 30 2005, 05:04 PM

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Which one more realible ? or should i said more trusted ?
Prime95 or SP2004 ? huh.gif
The Prime95 failed but SP2004 still running no error yet.. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2005, 05:01 PM)
ahpaul... i think your voltage is too high for only 270mhz ler...

try back down to 2.7v or 2.8v

yours are tccds right?
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voltage too high? huh.gif
but i think mine's TCCD is not as good as you guy one leh..
blush.gif sweat.gif

ok
i will try lower the voltage and kianwee setting .

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post Aug 30 2005, 08:09 PM

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Im using Blend Test to test my RAM stability.

Thanks for the kianwee, soulfly and pcmoddingmy's sugguestion.
I will give it a try. Thanks a lot.

I think the max speed for my Corsair RAM can run is 275MHz only .
last time did a test with my Winchester and can run >8hours no problem but with kinda loose timing. i think is 2.5-4-4-8,1T, 3.2v.
I forgot how im able to do that timing last time.. doh.gif >>>

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Now don't think about RAM first,
test my processor how high can go but with low voltage .. wink.gif
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post Aug 31 2005, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(babyelf @ Aug 31 2005, 02:57 AM)
ur A64 tweaker screen?
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That time forgot to take the A64 Tweaker screen .. doh.gif

QUOTE(charge-n-go @ Aug 31 2005, 04:07 AM)
Try custom setting as it allows u to test the RAM at all time, not switching between CPU and RAM. These are the settings :

FFT : 8K to 4096K
Run in place FFT : UN ticked
RAM Size in used : up to u. I usually set to 64MB or 128MB.
Time : 1 minute.

I usually run for more than 2 days to obtain most stable results. Testing less than 8 hours cant give me high windows uptime as compare to 2 days.

btw, how's yr RAM performing now? Still using high volts or already switch to lower voltage. IMO, it should be able to run at 2.7 - 2.8V @ 275MHz. Good luck dude !
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oh, mean you recommend custom setting than perset setting to test the RAM is it ? huh.gif

somemore need to run 2days only can say system 100% stable ar ? shocking.gif

i stop test the RAM already. blush.gif
now finding the max HTT my Venice can go . last time need >1.600v only can do 285HTT, after few days burn in, now my Venice able to do 285HTT with 1.525v, although i know is still quite high vcore, but compare last time, still ok la . (using stock fan and divider of coz biggrin.gif ) blush.gif i hope not my board holding me back .

As my fren told me, the 2x512MB Corsair TwinX PC3200 is using TCCD ramchip (default timing is 3-3-3-8), but i think not optimize as those high performance ram lor.. if not that ram can sell at high performance RAM already. smile.gif if im not mistaken the highest MHz i achieve on last time is 2.5-4-4-8, 1T, 3.2v . highest than 275MHz memtest got thousand errors in test5 sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
that time i think all RAM advanced setting i set to default or auto, just change the 1T and Max Async Latency to 7 and Read preable to 5. Didnt test CL3 tongue.gif in fact, i cannot realy remember. tongue.gif

For your information, My 2x512MB Corsair TwinX batch are 0512053-7. mean is year05 week 12 product one . Any comment on it ? biggrin.gif

I having weird problem for my Venice... more detail refer to Venice Overclocking and Discussion Thread

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post Sep 1 2005, 06:47 PM

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Any wrong setting here?
memtest #5 no error so far but once in window try run Prime95 will failed within 1min shocking.gif
How to overcome this ? sad.gif

after follow some guide and suggestion from you guys,
now my TCCD able to run at 270MHz ,2.5-4-3-7, 1T, 2.7v biggrin.gif
last time need 3.0v...

I wonder is it tighter DRAM setting is suitable for TCCD ? huh.gif
I realiased one thing is that, the RAM run more hotter than when i set to 3.2v !!! shocking.gif


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Genic BIOS Setting :
CPU Frequency = 270MHz
Hammer Fid Control = x9
HT Frequency = 3x
HT Width = Up 16 Down 16
PCIE Clock = 100MHz
AMD K8 Cool & Quiet = Disabled
DDR Voltage Contorl = 2.7v
Chp Voltage Contorl = 1.7v
CPU Voltage Control = 1.500v

DRAM Configuration :
Timing Mode = Manual
Memclock Mode = Update
Memclock index value (MHz) = 200MHz CPU:DDR 1:1
Tcl = 2.5
Tras = 7T
Trcd = 4T
Trp = 3T
Trrd = 2T
Trc = 10T
Trfc = 16T
Twr = 2 bus clock
Twtr = 2 bus clock
Trwt = 2 bus clock
Tref = Auto
Twcl = 1 Mem clock after CAS#
DDR Cut Driving = Auto
DDR DQ Drive Strength = Auto
Bottom of 32bit [31:24] IO = E0
1T/2T Memory Timing = 1T
Read Preamble Value = 6ns
Async Latency Value = 8ns
Dynamic Idle Cycle Counter = 256cycle
DRAM Bank Interleaving - Enabled
Burst Length = 8beats
Enable ALL DIMM Clock = Enabled
S/W Memory Hole Remapping = Disabled
H/W Memory Hole Remapping = Disabled
MTRR Mapping Mode = Continuous
DRAM ECC Feature Control = Disabled

Will post my A64 tweaker tonight . smile.gif

FYI, My current spec are :
Processor - AMD64 3000+ Venice E3 (s939)
Mobo : DFI NF4 DAGF (BIOS-801)
RAM : 2x512MB Corsair TwinX XMS PC3200 v1.4
Graphic Card - PCI S3 4M
HDD : WD 40GB 8MB
Optical Drive : ASUS 52x CD-ROM
PSU : OCZ Modstream 520W PSU
Window XP PRO SP2 with all critical updated.

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post Sep 1 2005, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Sep 1 2005, 06:53 PM)
I would suggest you to find the max of your CPU and RAM first before overclocking.

Here is a complete guide to do that:

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20823

And I would recommend you run test 8 in memtest as well.
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I saw that thread too yesterday,
in fact i have to satisfy with my board, should said cannot expect too much tongue.gif
coz my board is budget mobo only .. sweat.gif

normally i will run full test after 1hours of test#5 and #8 each.
but then i think now suitable me to find max HTT my processor can go first. blush.gif

i expect too much for my RAM la .. haha biggrin.gif tongue.gif biggrin.gif

Wish me luck smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2005, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(aleck @ Oct 15 2005, 03:31 PM)
can post UCCC results here?
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Hopefully This Thread can help you biggrin.gif
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post Jan 17 2006, 01:07 AM

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Finally owned a DFI NF4 SLI-D, although a bit late tongue.gif blush.gif tongue.gif

using 2 x 512MB Corsair XMS3200 v1.4

should i go further? biggrin.gif

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post Jan 20 2006, 01:11 PM

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Can anyone explain to me why memtest #7 can failed but passed through #5 and #8 ? unsure.gif

anyone ? unsure.gif
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post Jan 20 2006, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Jan 20 2006, 02:39 PM)
Ram overheating perhaps? Try active cooling instead of passive.

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/showthrea...?t=16822&page=2
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I saw that thread too,
but wonder TCCD can overheated so easily ?
vdimm only 2.8v. huh.gif
havent tested in Window yet.
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post Apr 17 2006, 12:57 AM

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Anyone can anwser me why my Corsair only able run at CL2, but not CL2.5 and CL3 ???
mine is XMS3200 v1.4 (2x512MB) blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif
RAM spoil or what ?
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post Apr 17 2006, 09:29 PM

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this pair able to do CL2.5-4-3-7 at >250MHz last time one woh... HERE
now just don't want to do CL2.5 ...
looks like the pair need to RMA already... sad.gif
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post Apr 18 2006, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(remysix @ Apr 18 2006, 12:13 AM)
what is ur ram rated timing? corsair only covers if the ram is not performing as per their advertised rating i.e. failed in memtest...they will ask u to do the memtest...and if nothing can be done...then RamGuy will say something like..."pls follow the 'I think I got a bad memory' in my siggy"...then u'll get the RMA number...done RMA for my corsair twice...and each time i got back the stick...the performance is getting better as well thumbup.gif
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the rated timing of that RAM is 3.3.3.8.
ermm.. where you send for RMA ? to USA ? shocking.gif
coz the RAM is bought from Malaysia Corsair Official Supplier Cudo lor ..
so i think i will just pass to them. sad.gif
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QUOTE(kulus @ Apr 20 2006, 01:45 PM)
wahhh..manage to get 2.9 ghz with 1.45v only..well done mate..

izzit prime stable?
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he is running 1.6vcore.
and remember, CPU-Z alwaz show under-volt for Processor. cool.gif
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post Apr 23 2006, 01:45 AM

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The pair 2x512MB XMS3200 v1.4 finally sent for warranty already. sad.gif
have to wait until mid of next month only able to get it.

Hopefully is a not bad pair. biggrin.gif

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post May 24 2006, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Apr 23 2006, 01:45 AM)
The pair 2x512MB XMS3200 v1.4 finally sent for warranty already.  sad.gif
have to wait until mid of next month only able to get it.

Hopefully is a not bad pair. biggrin.gif
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I got back my XMS3200 from warranty last week,
is a XMS3200v6.1,
0516013-0
should be UTT chips rclxms.gif
no time to test yet tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Westley @ May 27 2006, 02:21 AM)
from houseofhelp
CMX512-3200 XMS3200 v6.1 0516013-0 = Promos -5 Rev A *
CMX512-3200 XMS3200v6.1 0516011-0 = Winbond -5 UTT
yr 05 there is some shortage of IC, it makes corsair grab watever it can get.
and this makes the production line update inconsistance.
now, corsair use mostly promos for xms3200
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in fact, i did open a bit the heatspreader and check and confirm is using UTT. smile.gif
now more interested to play 2X1GB RAM tongue.gif

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post May 28 2006, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(Westley @ May 28 2006, 12:08 AM)
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=47615&page=3
look this, not always...
promos own some chip likes uTT also
and, some infineon looks like uTT
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hehe, nice found.

let me settle down the 2x1GB KVR UCCC first,
then i will be bck to this XMS version6.1 RAM flex.gif

 

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