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post Aug 25 2005, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(kelvin_hata @ Aug 25 2005, 12:00 AM)
i didt set all...onli set the timing...cos last time i buy all stuff, n i cant find gskill ram in lyn tat y i tempory use my old bh-5 to run 1st...

last times buy tis baby at rm400 onli 256 corsair 3200 rev1.1, on b'cos run at single channel n didt do any benmark, jus use tat ram to burn in my proc smile.gif

but ur superpi using sandy vy fast wat...abt 27sec finish 1mb jor...
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so 265 just 2-2-2-5 in bios? other timings on auto?

that superpi1mb is suicide shot.. nothing near stable.. maybe will get it higher soon.. just got this wink.gif


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post Aug 25 2005, 12:53 PM

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My current setting at 2.8V with very minimum error in Memtest86+, maybe need more burn-in sad.gif

(Using DFI nF3 250Gb 4/15 BIOS w/ 4Vdimm mod)

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Genie BIOS Settings:
FSB Bus Frequency - 300
AGP Bus Frequency - 67mhz
Clock Spread Spectrum - Disabled
LDT Downstream Width - Auto
LDT Upstream Width - Auto
LDT/FSB Frequency - Auto
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 8x
K8 Cool 'n' Quiet Support - Disable

CPU VID Control - 1.4V
CPU VID Special Control - Above VID * 0.126%
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.90v
AGP Voltage Control - 1.60v
DRAM Voltage Control - 2.80v

DRAM Configuration:
DRAM Frequency Set - 200 (DRAM/FSB:1/1)
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2.5
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 7 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 03 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 07 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 14 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 03 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 03 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) - 4708 Cycles
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - 1
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

DQS Skew Control - Increase
DQS Skew Value - 255
DRAM Drive Strength - Level 2
Max Async Latency - 7.0ns
Read Preamble Time - 5.0ns
IdleCycle Limit - 016 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(8 Bursts)
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post Aug 26 2005, 12:14 AM

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cannot run at ???
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 02 Bus Clocks

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haven't tried that though

i tot lower timing is more stable sweat.gif
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post Aug 26 2005, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 26 2005, 12:23 AM)
haven't tried that though

i tot lower timing is more stable sweat.gif
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dunno loh...cos i can run 3dmark wit tis setting...if i put 3,3,2,3 or 3,2,2,3 got problem... but put it 2,2,2,2 then no problem jor laugh.gif

i oso pelik tongue.gif sweat.gif
mb u can try lah smile.gif

hmm...here my old bh-5 run at 2-2-2-7@267@3.7v@1:1@1t sweat.gif



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post Aug 26 2005, 06:56 PM

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Eh? Whats BH-5 doing in a TCCD thread? tongue.gif

Anyways, I find that it is much easier to overclock 2x256MH TCCDs to 300+MHz with 1T than 2x512MB TCCDs.

Here's my setup doing 300MHz 2.5-4-3-7-1T @ 2.7V on Corsair 3200XL 2x256MB TCCD 513
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My current highest stable record at 320MHz 2.5-4-4-8-1T 2.7V on 3200XL 2x256MB TCCD modules
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My Setup: A64 3000+ WinChester - DFI LP UT nF3 Ultra-D (BIOS 705) - Corsair XMS 3200XL 2x256MB 2.7v - LTD 3x 1.7v - CPU 1.6v - vAGP 1.6v

Edit: All tests done in DUAL CHANNEL.

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nice one there dude

but 256MB modules sure can clock high easily due to the single bank factor
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 26 2005, 07:53 PM)
nice one there dude

but 256MB modules sure can clock high easily due to the single bank factor
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Yup.. its either that or my board hates dual sided memory module.
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I found this thread informative so I have decided to pinned it up for easy reference.
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post Aug 30 2005, 03:23 PM

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Dont know whether is it a suitable place to post or not ..

Anything idea what cause failed ? sad.gif

2x512MB Corsair TwinX DDR400 v1.4, running at 270MHz, 2.5-4-3-7,1T, 3.2v

memtest run >7hours same setting with3.0v no error.
but in window i need to adjust to 3.2v blink.gif

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post Aug 30 2005, 04:35 PM

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Try:

Max Async Latency to 8
Read preable to 6
Idle Cycle Limit to 256
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ahpaul... i think your voltage is too high for only 270mhz ler...

try back down to 2.7v or 2.8v

yours are tccds right?
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post Aug 30 2005, 05:04 PM

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Which one more realible ? or should i said more trusted ?
Prime95 or SP2004 ? huh.gif
The Prime95 failed but SP2004 still running no error yet.. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2005, 05:01 PM)
ahpaul... i think your voltage is too high for only 270mhz ler...

try back down to 2.7v or 2.8v

yours are tccds right?
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voltage too high? huh.gif
but i think mine's TCCD is not as good as you guy one leh..
blush.gif sweat.gif

ok
i will try lower the voltage and kianwee setting .

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post Aug 30 2005, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Aug 30 2005, 05:04 PM)
Which one more realible ? or should i said more trusted ?
Prime95 or SP2004huh.gif
The Prime95 failed but SP2004 still running no error yet..  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
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Which test did you run?
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find your maximum memory oc and tune the memory timings to get memtest86 pass at test #5, tune until you can get it run at 2.8V or less. if you're trying to run at 300mhz, put the vdimm at 2.9v

from there, after you can pass memtest86 #5, try to enter windows. if you cannot stable in windows, you might need to increase your chipset, agp or cpu voltage. or maybe u need to bump your agp speed to 67mhz. no need to alter your vdimm anymore.
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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Aug 30 2005, 05:04 PM)
Which one more realible ? or should i said more trusted ?
Prime95 or SP2004huh.gif
The Prime95 failed but SP2004 still running no error yet..  blink.gif  blink.gif  blink.gif
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Actually both are the same, using the same Lucas-Lehmer iterations. To stress the RAM, use In-place Large FFTs or Blend Tests. However, Blend test will use up all of your RAM and causing extreme lags. So, I prefer Large FFTs.

If you have Prime95 for some reason, try Windows MemTest (http://hcidesign.com/memtest/). Let it pass atleast 3000% coverage or 2 hours error free for maximum stability.

Edit: Screw BIOS Memtest! shakehead.gif

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bios memtest purely tests the ram, that's why even OCZ still use this utility for testing.

when you go into windows..... any memtest based tool is affected by the processor and overall system stability also, that's why you can pass bios/dos memtest but cannot pass windows memory tester.
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Im using Blend Test to test my RAM stability.

Thanks for the kianwee, soulfly and pcmoddingmy's sugguestion.
I will give it a try. Thanks a lot.

I think the max speed for my Corsair RAM can run is 275MHz only .
last time did a test with my Winchester and can run >8hours no problem but with kinda loose timing. i think is 2.5-4-4-8,1T, 3.2v.
I forgot how im able to do that timing last time.. doh.gif >>>

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Now don't think about RAM first,
test my processor how high can go but with low voltage .. wink.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2005, 07:35 PM)
after you can pass memtest86 #5, try to enter windows. if you cannot stable in windows, you might need to increase your chipset, agp or cpu voltage. or maybe u need to bump your agp speed to 67mhz. no need to alter your vdimm anymore.
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what do you mean by "cannot stable in windows" ? my GH run 235 @ 2-2-2-5 stable in memtest65#5 for more than 13hours and 240 @ 2-2-2-5 for more than 9hours but with 2 errors only. but come to windows, few minute later, the pc automatic reboot, increase the agp voltage or speed will make it stable?

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