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post Jun 2 2011, 10:31 PM, updated 12y ago

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LHDN website: http://www.hasil.gov.my/
e-filing website: https://e.hasil.gov.my/
e-lejar website: http://www.hasil.gov.my/
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Previous version: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1840158

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Tax for dividend and distribution:

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How to apply for e-filing PIN:

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Bagaimana Mendapatkan No. PIN ?

1. Pada BNCP yang dihantar
2. Hadir ke Cawangan LHDNM yang berhampiran
3. Memohon melalui telefon/surat/faks (salinan kad pengenalan perlu dikemukakan sebagai pengesahan)

Option (3):

Permohonan No. PIN e-Filing (secara online)

Permohonan nombor PIN melalui emel perlu dibuat dengan mengisi Borang Maklumbalas Pelanggan. Sila lampirkan dokumen pengenalan semasa mengisi Borang Maklumbalas Pelanggan. Sila klik di sini untuk ke Borang Maklumbalas Pelanggan

URL for BORANG MAKLUMBALAS PELANGGAN: http://www.hasil.gov.my/smp/


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post Jun 3 2011, 12:02 AM

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Is there such a thing for income tax to suddenly deduct a lot from your salary?
I've called my HQ they say is new income tax rule, so in months to come not going to deduct much..

She say is because i just got increment in my salary that's why income tax deduct one shot..
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:02 AM)
Is there such a thing for income tax to suddenly deduct a lot from your salary?
I've called my HQ they say is new income tax rule, so in months to come not going to deduct much..

She say is because i just got increment in my salary that's why income tax deduct one shot..
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Yes, for PCB, the deduction % is calculated monthly (not avg salary per month). So, if for this month you receive several months of back-dated increment, or big bonus, the deduction will be a lot compared to normal. It can even be 1-1.5x more from your normal deduction.

Just wait until next year (2012), do the assessment for 2011, and you can claim back overpaid tax.

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post Jun 3 2011, 12:46 PM

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ThNks for the reply..I still have not get back my rebate for year 2010.. Normally how long does it take for them to process..
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:46 PM)
ThNks for the reply..I still have not get back my rebate for year 2010.. Normally how long does it take for them to process..
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Depends. I submited end-Apr and not yet receive also.

There is one time (within these few years), I received rebate in Aug only.

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hello,

Im was told by the sport company owner / boss that i can claims sport tax relief on the CamelBak hyration pack that i brought.

Im quite surprised when were told on this. Anyone have tried claim sport relief on the hydration pack???

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hi.. i got refund letter on march where they investigate me..ask me wait 3 month...if not contact by them, 4th month i need to contact them..june is 4th month... nobody contacted me..i don dare to contact them as i realize a lot of receipt that i lost already or throw already..

can advice whether i should keep quiet or call them y didnt refund $ to me (haha)?
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me too.. no payment yet too... wonder need to call or dont want to call sweat.gif
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Be confident on what you have submitted smile.gif Give IRB a call to find out what's the reason the for the delay, to expedite the refund.

Cheers.

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post Jun 7 2011, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(swatz @ Jun 7 2011, 06:11 PM)
Be confident on what you have submitted smile.gif Give IRB a call to find out what's the reason the for the delay, to expedite the refund.

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wat if they ask us to bring receipts and we don have?
how to be confident? it is like cari pasal or maut
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doh.gif memang cari pasal if you did not keep the receipt properly.

What advise you want from the forumer?
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:46 PM)
ThNks for the reply..I still have not get back my rebate for year 2010.. Normally how long does it take for them to process..
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It depends if they need to check or not. From the previous thread, it seems that some of the forumers are able to get their refund cheques quite fast, within few weeks after doing an e-filling.

As for mine, I did e-filling as well and receive a letter stating that it is going for audit and I should contact them in 3 months time if I don't hear from them. Haven't heard from them so far. But I'm pretty sure it'll take the whole 3 months and another few more months to do all those checking and have to show them prove of receipts and everything before I get the refund back. smile.gif
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wat happen if cant provide receipt?
that all i like to know
and what i can do
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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 8 2011, 08:33 AM)
wat happen if cant provide receipt?
that all i like to know
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You know, you can always call their helpline and ask them about it. They won't fine you just because you asked a question.

I haven't encounter anything like that basically because they have always reminded us to keep our receipts for the past 7 years (I think it's 7) and I've been keeping receipts as long as I can ever remember. If no receipts then it's like cari pasal lor.

Try to get other forms of prove for your purchase. Like if it's insurance, get the insurance company to give you something.
My dad has issues with income tax issues way back like in 1986. They still come and kacau him and he had to show prove to reduce the fine.

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 7 2011, 10:15 PM)
wat if they ask us to bring receipts and we don have?
how to be confident? it is like cari pasal or maut
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QUOTE(swatz @ Jun 7 2011, 11:18 PM)
doh.gif memang cari pasal if you did not keep the receipt properly.

What advise you want from the forumer?
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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 8 2011, 08:33 AM)
wat happen if cant provide receipt?
that all i like to know
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LOL If don't have the receipt or lost it, i.e. no proof, why do you put into tax deduction ? laugh.gif

Like that memang cari pasal lah biggrin.gif

Hope they not audit you. I was audited once, they ask me meet at interview room (Jln Duta branch). She brought my file with all my actual submissions for the past years, and check about 2-3 years latest submission, receipts, etc. Not really 100% scrutinize but still browse through all. Since I keep all in proper (at least 7 years), there is nothing they can do, and interview done after 20 minutes.

What you can do now is, try borrow receipts from friends, e.g. for book receipts no name printed (Popular/MPH/Kinokuniya/Borders/etc.)
If computer, then try ask vendor to print for you (must be your name).

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I submitted my e-filling 5/4/2011 ... I still yet to receive my refund ..

Called IRB and checked the status... Refund approved on 24/5/2011 ... Will receive the cheque within 14 working days ..
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QUOTE(Felice821 @ Jun 8 2011, 05:50 PM)
I submitted my e-filling 5/4/2011 ... I still yet to receive my refund ..

Called IRB and checked the status... Refund approved on 24/5/2011 ... Will receive the cheque within 14 working days ..
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hi Felice821, did u get letter where ur under investigation within 3 month?


Added on June 9, 2011, 2:35 pmthanks Felice821 for your LHDN number.

i call LHDN bout my situation. they said still in progress. they didnt ask me look for them but also didnt said when going refund for me. this is so strange.i don dare to ask much. then i just said ok.

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Just got my cheque.. This year first time do all these income tax stuff..

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 7 2011, 01:39 PM)
hi.. i got refund letter on march where they investigate me..ask me wait 3 month...if not contact by them, 4th month i need to contact them..june is 4th month... nobody contacted me..i don dare to contact them as i realize a lot of receipt that i lost already or throw already..

can advice whether i should keep quiet or call them y didnt refund $ to me (haha)?
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I think you should just call them. They will not ask you to come for audit if you call them. Only if you receive the letter for them.
I think.

QUOTE(Felice821 @ Jun 8 2011, 05:50 PM)
I submitted my e-filling 5/4/2011 ... I still yet to receive my refund ..

Called IRB and checked the status... Refund approved on 24/5/2011 ... Will receive the cheque within 14 working days ..
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I submitted mine early March. I received a letter saying that mine was due for further audit.
Called them last 2 weeks and they said that my refund was approved, although of lower amount and I would receive the cheque in 14 working days.

Still waiting for that cheque!
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QUOTE(~butter @ Jun 11 2011, 12:37 AM)
I think you should just call them. They will not ask you to come for audit if you call them. Only if you receive the letter for them.
I think.
I submitted mine early March. I received a letter saying that mine was due for further audit.
Called them last 2 weeks and they said that my refund was approved, although of lower amount and I would receive the cheque in 14 working days.

Still waiting for that cheque!
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Guess I should call them soon too since it's almost coming to three months anyway.
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 11 2011, 01:32 PM)
Guess I should call them soon too since it's almost coming to three months anyway.
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Good to end the "worry" once & for all tongue.gif

Mind U, the last time i "chased them" for my $5K+ over payment, i kena about $14K+ overdue / miscalc for previous 3 years' tax! Contra-ed, still owe $9K+ cry.gif
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coughing.. i call them.. they reply me.. they still investigate me.
in my heart..i was "helo"...im not those datuk or those business man.. y wanna investigate me..some more the claim is so little..

they really bizzare..
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 11 2011, 01:32 PM)
Guess I should call them soon too since it's almost coming to three months anyway.
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If it has been three months, I think it is better to just call them to get a peace of mind. If they want to do a further audit, at least you can start preparing your documents.

QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 11 2011, 04:54 PM)
coughing.. i call them.. they reply me.. they still investigate me.
in my heart..i was "helo"...im not those datuk or those business man.. y wanna investigate me..some more the claim is so little..

they really bizzare..
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Depends on when you submit. I believe if you submitted in April, the earliest you can get (if you gotten an audit) is in August? At least that's what I read.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jun 11 2011, 01:40 PM)
Good to end the "worry" once & for all  tongue.gif

Mind U, the last time i "chased them" for my $5K+ over payment, i kena about $14K+ overdue / miscalc for previous 3 years' tax! Contra-ed, still owe $9K+  cry.gif
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Haha. What happen?

My overpayment is just a small amount. Few hundred only. That's why I'm not really in a hurry to get it back yet.
I think they still checking cause past few years always pay few k tax even after monthly installments but this year overpayment.
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 13 2011, 09:55 AM)
Haha. What happen?

My overpayment is just a small amount. Few hundred only. That's why I'm not really in a hurry to get it back yet.
I think they still checking cause past few years always pay few k tax even after monthly installments but this year overpayment.
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My previous Co. pays bonus, say this year, AND stated it as bonus earned for previous year. Thus i had several years' worth of EA forms affected, accumulative sweat.gif LHDN did some "back pay" calc for previous years and "gave" it to me cry.gif

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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 11 2011, 04:54 PM)
coughing.. i call them.. they reply me.. they still investigate me.
in my heart..i was "helo"...im not those datuk or those business man.. y wanna investigate me..some more the claim is so little..

they really bizzare..
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Anyone will be audited within 7 years, that's why you keep receipts for 7 years. It's just a matter of time before you will be audited. Some get it faster when LHDN finds irregularity in the claims.

My tax refund also delayed. Just went to LHDN to ask them. They said they want to check for my claims especially "perubatan ibu-bapa" , because according to them, normally taxpayers cheat on that category and also housing loan.

So, they ask me to prepare all the receipts and if I haven't got any letter from them in 3 months, I should go to their branch to check.

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guys!
if u receive 1st letter that u been investigate... upon 3 month later, they didnt call u or u receive any letter...please CALL THEM BACK!

why because it proves that when we CALL THEM BACK, instead they question us, they give us refund!

Yea Yea!
I got email from them that my refund is in process within 14 days.i send them email ask why i do not receive my refund!

Phew...!
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Submitted online at last week of April.
Received snail mail yesterday. 2k+ refund icon_idea.gif

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Check and already in account. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jun 14 2011, 11:06 AM)
Submitted online at last week of April.
Received snail mail yesterday. 2k+ refund  icon_idea.gif

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Check and already in account.  rclxms.gif
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syoknya!


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"Your ledger cannot be displayed. Please contact our nearest branch"

I wanted to print it out for some application but I got the above error!
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I received mine today! Yay!

Submitted early-March, received letter in April saying that I have been investigated, received cheque in June. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vincentwee @ Jun 14 2011, 08:52 AM)
guys!
if u receive 1st letter that u been investigate... upon 3 month later, they didnt call u or u receive any letter...please CALL THEM BACK!

why because it proves that when we CALL THEM BACK, instead they question us, they give us refund!

Yea Yea!
I got email from them that my refund is in process within 14 days.i send them email ask why i do not receive my refund!

Phew...!
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Ehh, don't really understand you. Lol.

I haven't had the time to call them yet. sad.gif Will call next week.
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i haven got mine >.<
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Got my tax refund direct bank-in to CIMB a/cs, 1 month from submission date thumbup.gif
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I think LHDN getting more efficient nowdays. Got my refund(RM1767) on 8th June 2011.
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grr..enter 2nd week.. where is my cheque?
got email from them last week..that within 14 days i get my $
where is my $?

think najib spend on it ytd.. got their 1Malaysia sms for Father Day
Waste public $
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cannot wait them to response.. i called them in the morning just now.. said that my tax refund want being approve on 17th June, will send me a notification on whether refund in cheque or direct bank in... so waiting for them now >.<
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My tax refund being approved on 24th May, and I received my cheque 15th June ..
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I thought they were going to do all refunds by bank direct credit, but it looks like they are still sending out cheques?

Maybe, it is for those who bank with Maybank and CIMB only, initially?

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 20 2011, 08:48 PM)
I thought they were going to do all refunds by bank direct credit, but it looks like they are still sending out cheques?

Maybe, it is for those who bank with Maybank and CIMB only, initially?
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LHDN current bank is CIMB. If you write in FORM BE is CIMB bank for refund, they of course will direct credit to your account which is safer than post.
If you are not CIMB account holder, LHDN want to use post cheque, because the direct credit to diff bank account often encounter unsuccessful process.
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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jun 21 2011, 12:20 AM)
LHDN current bank is CIMB. If you write in FORM BE is CIMB bank for refund, they of course will direct credit to your account which is safer than post.
If you are not CIMB account holder, LHDN want to use post cheque, because the direct credit to diff bank account often encounter unsuccessful process.
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Have a look at post #28, which included a letter from LHDN which mentions Maybank.

That makes your post about "not a CIMB account holder" inaccurate.
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QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 21 2011, 12:36 AM)
Have a look at post #28, which included a letter from LHDN which mentions Maybank.

That makes your post about "not a CIMB account holder" inaccurate.
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The statement is made by one of officer in LHDN. Maybe he was lucky and get the money. Actually, it happen on other company (CHGS) as well. The company want to direct credit the annual interest to me, it is not successful, but my friend has received the money. After there are so many unsuccessful result, the company decide send cheque to every investor.
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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jun 21 2011, 01:03 AM)
The statement is made by one of officer in LHDN. Maybe he was lucky and get the money. Actually, it happen on other company (CHGS) as well. The company want to direct credit the annual interest to me, it is not successful, but my friend has received the money. After there are so many unsuccessful result, the company decide send cheque to every investor.
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And how do you know it's only one?

You don't - you just have maybe's and guesses, just like your previous post.
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QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jun 21 2011, 12:20 AM)
LHDN current bank is CIMB. If you write in FORM BE is CIMB bank for refund, they of course will direct credit to your account which is safer than post.
If you are not CIMB account holder, LHDN want to use post cheque, because the direct credit to diff bank account often encounter unsuccessful process.
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I put my MBB account number into LHDN form. They banked into my account directly. Perhaps there are others who get banked in direct also ? hmm.gif

QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 21 2011, 12:36 AM)
Have a look at post #28, which included a letter from LHDN which mentions Maybank.

That makes your post about "not a CIMB account holder" inaccurate.
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Sharp eye man! smile.gif

QUOTE(500Kmission @ Jun 21 2011, 01:03 AM)
The statement is made by one of officer in LHDN. Maybe he was lucky and get the money. Actually, it happen on other company (CHGS) as well. The company want to direct credit the annual interest to me, it is not successful, but my friend has received the money. After there are so many unsuccessful result, the company decide send cheque to every investor.
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Heh heh, my CHGS also direct bank-in to my MBB account smile.gif

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I got a letter from LHDN regarding rebate for the 'faedah pinjaman perumahan' , so i need to send them the copy of the SNP (those important page only ?) to where ?

should it be ok post it as per the letter head address, need to attn to anyone ?

thx.
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Jun 22 2011, 03:26 PM)
I got a letter from LHDN regarding rebate for the 'faedah pinjaman perumahan' , so i need to send them the copy of the SNP (those important page only ?) to where ?

should it be ok post it as per the letter head address, need to attn to anyone ?

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IINM, you need to submit all the 12 months bank statement details (Jan-Dec 2010) which specifically states on the interest charged also.
e.g. rm500 interest per month x 12 = rm6k
If you put relief of 10k ... kantoi laugh.gif

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QUOTE(howszat @ Jun 21 2011, 01:11 AM)
And how do you know it's only one?

You don't - you just have maybe's and guesses, just like your previous post.
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Then, you explain why LHDN send cheque to me, when i am the maybank account holder. Please dont simply give comment with no strong support. And dont simply say just like your "previous" post, say which post is it.

This is a thread for giving income tax issue's comment, not kopitam. Please.
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LHDN did bank in direct to my wife maybank account. Based on the current discussion, i would think that LHDN are providing 2 sort of paying method, either by bank in or by cheque. But it basically based on the amount u r getting or the convenience of it or based on LHDN own workload/difficulties, we never know exactly rite? At the end of the day, I'm glad they paid it to my wife though
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Yes, LHDN is providing two methods of payment for refund.

I just called up to check on my refund status and they told me the cheque is ready to be posted out today. Then the girl also ask me if I would prefer that they bank in straight to my account. I'm pretty sure I did not fill in MBB account. I think it doesn't matter which account it is. Anyway, what matters is that in the end, you get your cheque/money back. smile.gif
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jun 24 2011, 10:49 AM)
Yes, LHDN is providing two methods of payment for refund.

I just called up to check on my refund status and they told me the cheque is ready to be posted out today. Then the girl also ask me if I would prefer that they bank in straight to my account. I'm pretty sure I did not fill in MBB account. I think it doesn't matter which account it is. Anyway, what matters is that in the end, you get your cheque/money back. smile.gif
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Jun 3 2011, 12:46 PM)
ThNks for the reply..I still have not get back my rebate for year 2010.. Normally how long does it take for them to process..
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If you do e-filing system, you just only wait for 3 weeks to 1 month, then u can get your rebate.

For my case normaly is that. smile.gif
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i register my Enterprise company and Current account at CIMG since 2004 but l business not so good back then so i never go pay income tax. Now business is doing good and i issuing cheque so much this year so is there any chance they will detect me?? kinda worry because i do below 30k business per month ...
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QUOTE(bill11 @ Jun 22 2011, 03:26 PM)
I got a letter from LHDN regarding rebate for the 'faedah pinjaman perumahan' , so i need to send them the copy of the SNP (those important page only ?) to where ?

should it be ok post it as per the letter head address, need to attn to anyone ?

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IINM, you need to submit all the 12 months bank statement details (Jan-Dec 2010) which specifically states on the interest charged also.
e.g. rm500 interest per month x 12 = rm6k
If you put relief of 10k ... kantoi  laugh.gif
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i also the same, they ask for the S&P, not the statement. i am getting confused, so i did nothing. lantak la, duit orang mahu, rebate balik macam-macam hal!
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i was audited for the housing loan interest, they asked for s&p and bank statement; then forwarded them those documents; two weeks later, they responded tat my calculation was correct; a week later, i got back my rebate!

just send them the documents tat they request...
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i got my refund finally tongue.gif now waiting for my hubby one to approve.. hopefully can get the refund for him soon as well
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QUOTE(aiskrimcup @ Jun 29 2011, 11:23 AM)
i also the same, they ask for the S&P, not the statement. i am getting confused, so i did nothing. lantak la, duit orang mahu, rebate balik macam-macam hal!
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QUOTE(leongal @ Jun 29 2011, 02:01 PM)
i was audited for the housing loan interest, they asked for s&p and bank statement; then forwarded them those documents; two weeks later, they responded tat my calculation was correct; a week later, i got back my rebate!

just send them the documents tat they request...
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Well, if the submission is correct, there is nothing to hide, and you'll get your dues back.
If faking it, then continue with the tidak apa attitude, and then continue blaming everyone else.
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i got an important question. the HK-1 form for borang B, all the information in there is almost the same as the data you fill in for bahagian Maklumat Kewangan Orang Perseorangan right?
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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Jun 29 2011, 11:16 AM)
i register my Enterprise company and Current account at CIMG since 2004 but l business not so good back then so i never go pay income tax. Now business is doing good and i issuing cheque so much this year so is there any chance they will detect  me?? kinda worry because i do below 30k business per month ...
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They would not need to look far. It is really only a matter of time before all of the departments/banks get their systems integrated with the LHDN, and then it will be a lot easier for the Tax Department to catch up with people who are evading tax.

BTW, if your business was not doing so good, does that mean that you were making a loss? If your company was loosing money, then you may not have even needed to pay tax when your business started making money (at least for a while)....this is because if your tax return shows that you are making a loss, then the loss this can be carried forward and used to offset your profits in later years.

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Please help me, what payment code of late payment penalty for individual? I am making payment through maybank2u, with the options as belows:

Payment Code Tax Category
084 Bayaran Ansuran Cukai - Individu
086 Bayaran Ansuran Cukai - Syarikat
088 Pendahuluan / Ansuran Cukai Komposit
090 Bayaran Cukai Keuntungan Harta Tanah
095 Bayaran Cukai Pendapatan (tidak termasuk skim ansuran)
150 Bayaran Kenaikan Seksyen 103A / 103
151 Bayaran Seksyen 108
152 Bayaran Kenaikan Seksyen 108
153 Bayaran Kenaikan Komposit
154 Bayaran Kenaikan Seksyen 107C(9) / 107B(3)
155 Bayaran Kenaikan Seksyen 107C(10) / 107B(4)
156 Bayaran Kos Mahkamah
157 Bayaran Faedah Atas Hutang Hukuman
158 Bayaran Ansuran Dibenarkan oleh Audit
159 Bayaran Ansuran Dibenarkan oleh Unit Pemungutan
160 Bayaran Ansuran Dibenarkan oleh Unit Guaman Sivil
173 Bayaran Kos Guaman
178 Bayaran Seksyen 108 (Sek 25)
181 Bayaran Kenaikan Seksyen 25
196 Bayaran Penyelesaian Cukai
197 Bayaran Penyelesaian Cukai - Majikan
250 Bayaran Kenaikan CKHT
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Anybody else still haven't got back their refund?I have been waiting for ages for it.
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i got my money in less than 2 weeks after submitted it via e-filling. They transferred the money directly into my Citibank account, which i put in the BE form.
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Anybody else still haven't got back their refund?I have been waiting for ages for it.
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I havent get back mine either, i have submited around end of March.... get a letter putting under investigation but no due date.... not sure need to wait till when.... this is the first year i change from single to married... and there it goes for slow refund......
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Mine very fast...get back after 3 weeks...but the refund only like 60% of what I should get back.

After few calls with them...

You know what? LHDN claim that I did't paid the full PCB and because of that I get my partial refund to cover the missing PCB.

really wtf... vmad.gif

Now still waiting them to investigate.

I really don't know how come this happen? I already provide all the receipt to them...but still need so long to check. (1 months plus)

Really kudos to them! notworthy.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(wos @ Jul 14 2011, 06:33 PM)
Mine very fast...get back after 3 weeks...but the refund only like 60% of what I should get back.

After few calls with them...

You know what? LHDN claim that I did't paid the full PCB and because of that I get my partial refund to cover the missing PCB.

really wtf... vmad.gif

Now still waiting them to investigate.

I really don't know how come this happen? I already provide all the receipt to them...but still need so long to check.  (1 months plus)

Really kudos to them!  notworthy.gif  rclxub.gif
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If your wording is correct, it means your employer did not pay the full PCB. You may receive salary slip with the amount deducted, but actually your company did not pay the amount to LHDN.

PCB = Potongan Cukai Berjadual, i.e. monthly deduction from salary.

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Hello guys,

Im a newbie to the job world, just noticed on my first payslip, they deducted EPF and Socso but not INCOME TAX. is this normal? this is my first job and my salary >2000MYR, and am 22 this year

Will they come after me at the end of the year to pay tax?

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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Jul 15 2011, 08:11 PM)
Hello guys,

Im a newbie to the job world, just noticed on my first payslip, they deducted EPF and Socso but not INCOME TAX. is this normal? this is my first job and my salary >2000MYR, and am 22 this year

Will they come after me at the end of the year to pay tax?
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Your gross basic salary must hit RM 2800 in order to be deducted for tax under PCB.
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thanks, but gross salary is > 2800RM, do i have to tell my employer to minus PCB? or will they do it auto for us!

thanks fro for the reply, really appreciate it
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thanks, but gross salary is > 2800RM, do i have to tell my employer to minus PCB? or will they do it auto for us!

thanks fro for the reply, really appreciate it
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Did they ask you to provide them with your Income Tax account number? By right, they'll perform the deduction.
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thanks, but gross salary is > 2800RM, do i have to tell my employer to minus PCB? or will they do it auto for us!

thanks fro for the reply, really appreciate it
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it's best that you check whether or not there is an entry in your payslip for PCB. i've had an experience where my employer did not deduct PCB for me for almost 1/2 year until i realised and had to inform HR to make sure that they did it. Next payslip, PCB started getting deducted as per normal....
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Can anyone please advise where can I retrieve the past years eBE submission?
I called LHDN last week, and they told me they only have last year in their record....how come??
Can anyone advise,pls

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Can anyone please advise where can I retrieve the past years eBE submission?
I called LHDN last week, and they told me they only have last year in their record....how come??
Can anyone advise,pls

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Which year do u want to retrieve it? It all depends on the online BE form implementation date. Or else you will have to ask them directly to check the hardcopy of the early days income tax filling forms. Not sure they will give or not as they would expect you will keep the records unless u have a big issue...court case maybe? Not sure for your case thumbup.gif
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i have an issue with 2010 tax return, waited for 3 month and called them up. thye say there is some issue with my bonus for 2010 then they say i neva submit for year 2007 & 2008. i was new to work tat time even dont know wat is PCB. moreover the pcb deducted was less than 100 for 2007 & 2008. for 2009 was the first year i did my e filling and got my return via check now for 2010 saying got problem. somemore in 2009 i have declared my parents medical cost and newly bought pc now they ask me if i have the receipt for it of coz i dont have it. what shud i do? shud i go and declare my tax for 2007 & 2008 or just wait for them. really confused.
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QUOTE(ezonemy @ Jul 19 2011, 09:45 AM)
i have an issue with 2010 tax return, waited for 3 month and called them up. thye say there is some issue with my bonus for 2010 then they say i neva submit for year 2007 & 2008. i was new to work tat time even dont know wat is PCB. moreover the pcb deducted was less than 100 for 2007 & 2008. for 2009 was the first year i did my e filling and got my return via check now for 2010 saying got problem. somemore in 2009 i have declared my parents medical cost and newly bought pc now they ask me if i have the receipt for it of coz i dont have it. what shud i do? shud i go and declare my tax for 2007 & 2008 or just wait for them. really confused.
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Dude and the rest of readers,

(1) Ignorance is not bliss. A lot of friends, family, relatives, b/f, g/f, neighbour, LYN trollers, enemies, dog/cat, devil, etc. tell you when your salary is below 30k/year or 2k per year or 2.5k per year or whatever cr@p, you DO NOT need to declare income tax, since your are NOT taxable. -> This is not true. As long as you have income, even RM500 per month, you ought to declare it for proper filing purpose. The end result is, it is not taxable only. If it is taxable, then it is your responsibility to pay it.

(2) Keep all the receipts for 7 years. It is your responsibility to keep it properly, in case of audit. If you lost it, then you have to request the receipts again from relevant sources, like insurance, etc. Otherwise, you will need to take it out from your deductions if you get audit.
If you do not have the receipt, DO NOT put it into submission.
If the amount does not reach maximum allowed, e.g. Book @RM1k, just put the exact amount you got as per receipt, e.g. RM150.
DO NOT CHEAT, as if you get audited, like the case above, kantoi !!!

You can evade all other things in life, except Death and Tax.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 15 2011, 10:51 AM)
If your wording is correct, it means your employer did not pay the full PCB. You may receive salary slip with the amount deducted, but actually your company did not pay the amount to LHDN.

PCB = Potongan Cukai Berjadual, i.e. monthly deduction from salary.
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I already request all the details from the HR.

And the HR come back with receipt number for each month payment...and yet I don't know how can this happen. hmm.gif


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QUOTE(DATO CHIKA @ Jul 19 2011, 10:52 AM)
not really need basic 2800 only.....if basic 2000 but year bonus received 5 months basic months.....oso kena income tax....BE look at overall....


Added on July 19, 2011, 10:54 amSince March 2011 until today, i still waiting for my refund...i receive a letter from LHDN stating i should check with them after 3 months if no refund made from May 2011. Need to visit them later.....
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I'm aware of that. I'm referring to general condition. Don't count the month when you get bonus.

Ultimately, everything will come back to your annual gross and taxable income.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 19 2011, 10:49 AM)
Dude and the rest of readers,

(1) Ignorance is not bliss. A lot of friends, family, relatives, b/f, g/f, neighbour, LYN trollers, enemies, dog/cat, devil, etc. tell you when your salary is below 30k/year or 2k per year or 2.5k per year or whatever cr@p, you DO NOT need to declare income tax, since your are NOT taxable. -> This is not true. As long as you have income, even RM500 per month, you ought to declare it for proper filing purpose. The end result is, it is not taxable only. If it is taxable, then it is your responsibility to pay it.

(2) Keep all the receipts for 7 years. It is your responsibility to keep it properly, in case of audit. If you lost it, then you have to request the receipts again from relevant sources, like insurance, etc. Otherwise, you will need to take it out from your deductions if you get audit.
If you do not have the receipt, DO NOT put it into submission.
If the amount does not reach maximum allowed, e.g. Book @RM1k, just put the exact amount you got as per receipt, e.g. RM150.
DO NOT CHEAT, as if you get audited, like the case above, kantoi !!!

You can evade all other things in life, except Death and Tax.
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+1

also, if you have not submitted your tax for previous years, i would recommend that you do so ASAP. the first year i started working i didn't submit, so i submitted the year after that. the longer you ignore, the bigger the consequences.
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and yes, just to add, for those doing sales or receive pay with high allowances, make sure that you clarify what falls under taxable and non-taxable income. my sister kena fined by IRB because they said she underdeclared her salary.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 15 2011, 10:51 AM)
If your wording is correct, it means your employer did not pay the full PCB. You may receive salary slip with the amount deducted, but actually your company did not pay the amount to LHDN.

PCB = Potongan Cukai Berjadual, i.e. monthly deduction from salary.
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Just a update.

After 2 months, finally I fedup with the LHDN customer services tai chi here tai chi there, I direct talk to one of the LHDN director, and got the response within 3 hours. flex.gif


cute_boboi, you are right..but my company did pay the PCB however the figure not correct. This incident happen because the figure at form (typo error) is different with the cheque, therefore that particular month payment is freeze shakehead.gif




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QUOTE(wos @ Jul 20 2011, 09:19 AM)
Just a update.

After 2 months, finally I fedup with the LHDN customer services tai chi here tai chi there, I direct talk to one of the LHDN director, and got the response within 3 hours.  flex.gif
cute_boboi, you are right..but my company did pay the PCB however the figure not correct. This incident happen because the figure at form (typo error) is different with the cheque, therefore that particular month payment is freeze  shakehead.gif
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Glad to hear it is sorted out.

There are some incident where company:
- put in your payslip PCB deducted
- issue FAKE payment receipt to LHDN and put in their files.
- LHDN says no such payment received.
- Company show you fake payment receipt.
This is where you need to ask the LHDN to call up and check (audit) your company payment and get it all sorted out.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 20 2011, 12:09 PM)
Glad to hear it is sorted out.

There are some incident where company:
- put in your payslip PCB deducted
- issue FAKE payment receipt to LHDN and put in their files.
- LHDN says no such payment received.
- Company show you fake payment receipt.
This is where you need to ask the LHDN to call up and check (audit) your company payment and get it all sorted out.
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I saw the official receipt from HR, I believe there is real. Basically this is what happen.

There is hand write error on submit form, it written Rm 10,010 but the cheque is written in Rm10,000 which is the correct figure.

According to the HR, back to last year, correction is already made. But I guess LHDN did not receive the correction?
And cause the payment freeze. rclxub.gif until now...

Now the accountant is working on it. But I don't get it, why no warning letter from LHDN? shocking.gif


Here is the reply from LHDN

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E-mel tuan bertarikh 19 Julai 2011 adalah dirujuk.

Semakan saya menunjukkan bayaran PCB bulan Oktober 2010 sebanyak RMxxx.xx (xx-xxxxxxxxxx) masih belum dikreditkan ke lejar tuan.

Perkara ini berlaku kerana majikan tuan telah terkurang membuat bayaran sebanyak RM10.00 bagi bulan tersebut. Ini menyebabkan keseluruhan pekerja yang dibayar bagi bulan Oktober 2010 masih belum dikreditkan ke lejar pekerja. Maklumat bayaran Oktober 2010 adalah seperti berikut-

No resit                                                : xx-xxxxxxxxxx
Tarikh resit                                          : 11.11.2010

Bayaran oleh majikan                                                    : RMxx,x19.00
Jumlah bayaran mengikut rekod pekerja              : RMxx,x29.00
Terkurang bayaran oleh majikan                              : RM        10.00


Pihak LHDNM telah menghubungi majikan tetapi masih belum mendapat maklum balas berkenaan perkara ini. Tindakan kredit ke lejar pekerja hanya boleh diambil setelah mendapat maklum balas daripada majikan tuan.

Diharap pihak tuan dapat memaklumkan perkara ini ke majikan agar tindakan segera dapat diambil di kedua-dua pihak bagi membolehkan bayaran tersebut dikreditkan ke semua pekerja.
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QUOTE(wos @ Jul 20 2011, 03:21 PM)
I saw the official receipt from HR, I believe there is real. Basically this is what happen.

There is hand write error on submit form, it written Rm 10,010 but the cheque is written in Rm10,000 which is the correct figure.

According to the HR, back to last year, correction is already made. But I guess LHDN did not receive the correction?
And cause the payment freeze.  rclxub.gif until now...

Now the accountant is working on it. But I don't get it, why no warning letter from LHDN?  shocking.gif
Here is the reply from LHDN
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(1) Obviously your company accountant is not working properly. For such an obvious 10k cheque issued but not deducted from account, he/she should check all the books again.

(2) How can the accountant close the year-end books ???

(3) If new cheque is cleared, and not into your tax account, again, obviously accountant issue wrong cheque. The cheque cannot be cleared if it is issued to the wrong tax accounts.

(4) LHDN fault for wrongly entering into system.

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still haven't get my tax refund... submitted it on march of 2011.... oledi 4 months process.....

called them just now, the staff said : " found out oledi approved by audit dept, nobody inform us can proceed for refund, and since you now calling me to ask for refund, we will now proceed further...."

well.... i'm afraid i will have to call them again next two weeks, and expected the staff will say will proceed to process your cheque....

i think quite difficult and low chance to get back my hard-earned money.... sad...
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ok guys who really know about income tax..please advice me

ok now my boss want to run from income tax..and then he offer me

to sign many voucher which are total around 60k..and of coz he giving me some amount of money to sign it..so if i sign this kind of voucher (sub con) is this will cause me a problem in future?

more info: i havent work almost 3 years that i have epf and socso

so any chance that lhdn can trace me for income tax in future..


im really inexperience in this matters (income tax)


so please guide me sifu..


thanks in advance
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QUOTE(kiminaro @ Jul 23 2011, 12:08 AM)
ok guys who really know about income tax..please advice me

ok now my boss want to run from income tax..and then he offer me

to sign many voucher which are total around 60k..and of coz he giving me some amount of money to sign it..so if i sign this kind of voucher (sub con) is this will cause me a problem in future?

more info: i havent work almost 3 years that i have epf and socso

so any chance that lhdn can trace me for income tax in future..
im really inexperience in this matters (income tax)
so please guide me sifu..
thanks in advance
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u have to declare the exact amount as all the amount as u sign as income

how much money did he pay u? u have to check yourself whether u are at a losing side
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 23 2011, 12:22 AM)
u have to declare the exact amount as all the amount as u sign as income

how much money did he pay u? u have to check yourself whether u are at a losing side
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ok the amount i will have to sign is 55k

and he offering me rm300 as "duit kopi"

so is it worth for me or im the losing side here?

please explain to me briefly bcoz i really dunno about income tax..

and from i check from lhdn website that cause will cost me rm3000++ if i really have to pay for income tax

never done income tax thing before this..

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11

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QUOTE(kiminaro @ Jul 23 2011, 12:57 AM)
ok the amount i will have to sign is 55k

and he offering me rm300 as "duit kopi"

so is it worth for me or im the losing side here?

please explain to me briefly bcoz i really dunno about income tax..

and from i check from lhdn website that cause will cost me rm3000++ if i really have to pay for income tax

never done income tax thing before this..

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11
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you have to pay about RM3,500 tax, and yet u just receive RM300, so u have to cough up RM3,200

your boss is smart, but u have to be smart when u sign anything, if don't understand, don't sign, ask people for opinion then only make decision

if you decide not to pay, IRB will come after u, not your boss
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 23 2011, 09:05 AM)
you have to pay about RM3,500 tax, and yet u just receive RM300, so u have to cough up RM3,200

your boss is smart, but u have to be smart when u sign anything, if don't understand, don't sign, ask people for opinion then only make decision

if you decide not to pay, IRB will come after u, not your boss
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yeah i know there are some catch for him for sure..today i went to work and my boss said he now only want me to sign for 20k

so for right now 20k after deduct 9k (self for budget 2010) so left 11k so following to budget 2010 RM10,001 - RM20,000 the tax would be rm175 - rm300 so if irb come after me later still im on losing side or not?

and my boss said normally income tax wont come after personal income they are chasing business (like enterprise and sdn bhd) but the percentage to get chase is very low..according to what he mention laa..

for right now i havent sign anything yet bcoz i said let me think 1st.


p/s: i havent create any account irb previously and i havent pay any income tax yet..so is there any chance the irb going to trace me later?
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QUOTE(kiminaro @ Jul 23 2011, 10:22 PM)
yeah i know there are some catch for him for sure..today i went to work and my boss said he now only want me to sign for 20k

so for right now 20k after deduct 9k (self for budget 2010) so left 11k so following to budget 2010 RM10,001 - RM20,000 the tax would be rm175 - rm300 so if irb come after me later still im on losing side or not?

and my boss said normally income tax wont come after personal income they are chasing business (like enterprise and sdn bhd) but the percentage to get chase is very low..according to what he mention laa..

for right now i havent sign anything yet bcoz i said let me think 1st.
p/s: i havent create any account irb previously and i havent pay any income tax yet..so is there any chance the irb going to trace me later?
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are u employed as a staff or sub-con?
without a clear situation nobody can help u

don't get conned by your boss laugh.gif IRB coming for everyone who underestimate or evade tax, they sure got their way to find out. If you are selected, u are the lucky one icon_rolleyes.gif

ok, let me explain one more time for your scenario

In your boss account, he already included u as sub-con for 60k, this is allowable expense, hence his company chargeable income(profit) is lower.

But in your account, u got an income of 60k, legally u have to declare your income, in your case is Form B (Business income).

Is it clear now?



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problem with those chinaman company nowadays, not willing to pay tax accordingly, then they will adjust their profit lower, when get caught, IRB slap them with a 45% underestimation penalty laugh.gif
If u are paying a high tax amount, be gladly to pay it, because u are in a high income group. Don't underestimate for the sake of saving tax, when shit happen and u are the lucky one selected, u will know how hard to deal with IRB personnel.

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jul 24 2011, 01:52 AM)
are u employed as a staff or sub-con?
without a clear situation nobody can help u

don't get conned by your boss laugh.gif IRB coming for everyone who underestimate or evade tax, they sure got their way to find out. If you are selected, u are the lucky one icon_rolleyes.gif

ok, let me explain one more time for your scenario

In your boss account, he already included u as sub-con for 60k, this is allowable expense, hence his company chargeable income(profit) is lower.

But in your account, u got an income of 60k, legally u have to declare your income, in your case is Form B (Business income).

Is it clear now?
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problem with those chinaman company nowadays, not willing to pay tax accordingly, then they will adjust their profit lower, when get caught, IRB slap them with a 45% underestimation penalty laugh.gif
If u are paying a high tax amount, be gladly to pay it, because u are in a high income group. Don't underestimate for the sake of saving tax, when shit happen and u are the lucky one selected, u will know how hard to deal with IRB personnel.
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for right now i as his staff not sub con..
and he said those voucher for those foreign worker (indon) when he got big project before this..
and in that time he not asking them to sign because he think no need. and now he said irb want the voucher to prove it.

so to be clear dont sign at all? or i have to reduce the amount like 10k or 15k to be safe?

btw as i already in his staff so all the details about me in resume before already in hand..is there any chance to submit the sub con thing without my permission or my sign?..because he asked to one of clerk my full name and ic no and sending the details to his accountant and yet i havent sign anything so far...

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QUOTE(kiminaro @ Jul 24 2011, 04:53 PM)
for right now i as his staff not sub con..
and he said those voucher for those foreign worker (indon) when he got big project before this..
and in that time he not asking them to sign because he think no need. and now he said irb want the voucher to prove it.

so to be clear dont sign at all? or i have to reduce the amount like 10k or 15k to be safe?

btw as i already in his staff so all the details about me in resume before already in hand..is there any chance to submit the sub con thing without my permission or my sign?..because he asked to one of clerk my full name and ic no and sending the details to his accountant and yet i havent sign anything so far...
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(1) Are you aware that you lose out 13% Employer EPF on your monthly 5k ?

(2) Assume you earn 60k/yr and save half of it (30k/yr). 3 years later, you have 90k and want to buy a house/car. Depending on your luck, you may get audited and you will have to explain where you get the 90k savings. You can bluff all the way, but it won't go far.

"For the few thousand/tens-of-thousand to pay to income tax, it is not worth it to evade." - advise from my CPA friend.

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QUOTE(kiminaro @ Jul 24 2011, 04:53 PM)
for right now i as his staff not sub con..
and he said those voucher for those foreign worker (indon) when he got big project before this..
and in that time he not asking them to sign because he think no need. and now he said irb want the voucher to prove it.

so to be clear dont sign at all? or i have to reduce the amount like 10k or 15k to be safe?

btw as i already in his staff so all the details about me in resume before already in hand..is there any chance to submit the sub con thing without my permission or my sign?..because he asked to one of clerk my full name and ic no and sending the details to his accountant and yet i havent sign anything so far...
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for me, it's pretty straightforward. anything that's gonna be against the law or shady, don't do it. it ain't worth it.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 20 2011, 07:35 PM)
(1) Obviously your company accountant is not working properly. For such an obvious 10k cheque issued but not deducted from account, he/she should check all the books again.

(2) How can the accountant close the year-end books ???

(3) If new cheque is cleared, and not into your tax account, again, obviously accountant issue wrong cheque. The cheque cannot be cleared if it is issued to the wrong tax accounts.

(4) LHDN fault for wrongly entering into system.
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Not sure how it happen...but according to the HR.

1) There was a mistaken during fill in the figure. (somehow 10 buck appear from no-where )
2) Back to last year amendment form is already sent to HASIL. whistling.gif

Hopefully can get back the refund asap. rolleyes.gif



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wanna ask is there anyone experience in doing income tax for contract employment before? for contract employement..it's required to register your own company and income tax will be taxed to your company.

What's the best way to reduce the income tax?
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Submitted my Borang BE on March 2011. Supposingly there should be few hundred refund I can get. However, I just got a letter last week, saying that "akaun tuan tidak menunjukkan apa-apa baki kredit yang boleh dibayar balik"..
Past few years I also able to get the refund, just that this yr I receive such a letter...
Shall I visit / call / email and request them to check for it?
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i just started working on june. my salary is around rm3k. wut should i do with regards to income tax? do i need to deduct monthly?
pls advise. tq
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QUOTE(sunnyloke @ Aug 1 2011, 01:25 PM)
Submitted my Borang BE on March 2011. Supposingly there should be few hundred refund I can get. However, I just got a letter last week, saying that "akaun tuan tidak menunjukkan apa-apa baki kredit yang boleh dibayar balik"..
Past few years I also able to get the refund, just that this yr I receive such a letter...
Shall I visit / call / email and request them to check for it?
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Sure, why not. As a tax payee, you have the rights to question and ask them to show you how they re-calculate your tax payment. They may not be able to do it over phone, you may try to lodge a case.

I would suggest to drop by the office where your file is located and get a queue number.

However, be prepared if it back-fires, i.e. you submitted wrong declaration or deductions, etc. and they turn the table saying you falsify without receipts/proof, and end up you have to pay fine (e.g. no books receipt, but still deduct 1k ... kantoi doh.gif ). But if you have nothing to hide and declared clearly, then you have nothing to be afraid.

QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 1 2011, 02:10 PM)
i just started working on june. my salary is around rm3k. wut should i do with regards to income tax? do i need to deduct monthly?
pls advise. tq
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Ask HR/Finance if they practise PCB for your salary range or not.
Ask your HR/Finance to help prepare the form to create an income tax account number.
You may/may not need to personally goto LHDN counter to open the account, depending on your company.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 1 2011, 02:57 PM)

Ask HR/Finance if they practise PCB for your salary range or not.
Ask your HR/Finance to help prepare the form to create an income tax account number.
You may/may not need to personally goto LHDN counter to open the account, depending on your company.
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im not sure about the PCB, but they asked me to open an account first, which i did (e-filing).
so, do i have to do PCB or i just can submit my file manually every April?
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im not sure about the PCB, but they asked me to open an account first, which i did (e-filing).
so, do i have to do PCB or i just can submit my file manually every April?
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so now that you have e-filing, check with your HR about PCB deductions. if they provide PCB deductions, basically, the company will help you to automatically deduct the taxable amount from your monthly salary. PCB deductions will be shown in your payslip.

then when you fill in your income tax via e-filing next year, get the EA form from your company which will show you how much they have deducted from your salary for PCB. if they have deducted more than necessary, you will get a cheque or direct bank in from the LHDN after you file in your income tax. if not, you'll have to pay the difference.

hope this helps! =)
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 1 2011, 03:15 PM)
im not sure about the PCB, but they asked me to open an account first, which i did (e-filing).
so, do i have to do PCB or i just can submit my file manually every April?
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Yes, checked with your HR/Finance if the company is doing PCB for your salary range.

Whether they do PCB or not, you still need to declare next year (for 2011 income). It is your duty to declare it, once you get the EA form, latest by end-Jan 2012.

If got PCB, it will lessen the pain to pay for the tax, since you already pay in advance monthly (like pre-paid installment). In fact, you may get back money, if you overpay the PCB after calculating all the deductions.

If no PCB, and if need to pay tax, then it hurts the wallet to pay up few hundred RM for your salary range.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 1 2011, 02:57 PM)
Sure, why not. As a tax payee, you have the rights to question and ask them to show you how they re-calculate your tax payment. They may not be able to do it over phone, you may try to lodge a case.

I would suggest to drop by the office where your file is located and get a queue number.

However, be prepared if it back-fires, i.e. you submitted wrong declaration or deductions, etc. and they turn the table saying you falsify without receipts/proof, and end up you have to pay fine (e.g. no books receipt, but still deduct 1k ... kantoi  doh.gif  ). But if you have nothing to hide and declared clearly, then you have nothing to be afraid.
Ask HR/Finance if they practise PCB for your salary range or not.
Ask your HR/Finance to help prepare the form to create an income tax account number.
You may/may not need to personally goto LHDN counter to open the account, depending on your company.
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I changed job on January and my ex-company HR don't know submitted what form to LHDN. End up I had been requested to submit the Borang BE directly to the Jln Duta branch. The officer did asked me to bring along all original receipts for her checking. Therefore, I am 100% confirmed I had declared all thing correctly.

Well, if they want to check back few yrs ago records.. then that a problem.. I need to dig for all the receipts...
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QUOTE(sunnyloke @ Aug 1 2011, 01:25 PM)
Submitted my Borang BE on March 2011. Supposingly there should be few hundred refund I can get. However, I just got a letter last week, saying that "akaun tuan tidak menunjukkan apa-apa baki kredit yang boleh dibayar balik"..
Past few years I also able to get the refund, just that this yr I receive such a letter...
Shall I visit / call / email and request them to check for it?
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If I was u, then I will check the tax file.

1). If the net outcome is, I earned (i.e. IRB calculated wrongly and I untung), then I will close my eyes and bank in the "tax credit".

2). If the net outcome is less than RM 1000 (whether earned or lost), then I will close my eyes.

3). If the net outcome is, I lost over RM 1000.00, then I will inform IRB (this also depend on situation whether it is worthwhile to do so).

Since it is IRB making mistake, let them to settle the problem themselves if it is outcome (1) and (2) above.


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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 1 2011, 03:15 PM)
im not sure about the PCB, but they asked me to open an account first, which i did (e-filing).
so, do i have to do PCB or i just can submit my file manually every April?
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If u have tax file number, u need to give the tax file number to u employer. Then u just sit down and rest, u don't have to worry anymore.

It is the duty of your employer to deduct (PCB). Whether they (employer) do it or not, u don't have to worry, because u are nothing wrong in tax law.

In fact, I really don't like my employer to do PCB for me, because I don't need to worry about my tax credit. FYI, If u want to claim back tax credit, u need to bring in all sort of prove, receipt and sometime to might got into trouble if u mis-do u Borong B/BE!

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QUOTE(sunnyloke @ Aug 2 2011, 09:18 AM)
I changed job on January and my ex-company HR don't know submitted what form to LHDN. End up I had been requested to submit the Borang BE directly to the Jln Duta branch. The officer did asked me to bring along all original receipts for her checking. Therefore, I am 100% confirmed I had declared all thing correctly.

Well, if they want to check back few yrs ago records.. then that a problem.. I need to dig for all the receipts...
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When I was audited once by LHDN, I brought along 3-5 years receipts, etc.
They did check my 3 years declaration and when everything in order, they let me go in 20 minutes.

If you do not bring the past-years receipts, I'm not sure if they'll let you go, or will they request another date/time to ask you to bring those ? hmm.gif

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In fact, I really don't like my employer to do PCB for me, because I don't need to worry about my tax credit. FYI, If u want to claim back tax credit, u need to bring in all sort of prove, receipt and sometime to might got into trouble if u mis-do u Borong B/BE!
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If the forms are submitted in order, and does not raise alarm, then the individual will get back the tax credit (if any) automatically without the need to prove, or goto LHDN counter, or email/tel.

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if we pay extra of the income tax when can we expect refund from them?
i just call cs, it has been confirm that my income tax has been overpaid
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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 2 2011, 05:44 PM)
if we pay extra of the income tax when can we expect refund from them?
i just call cs, it has been confirm that my income tax has been overpaid
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Definitely. Those are your money. Even my friend request back 20 cents, as it is his principle.

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Definitely. Those are your money. Even my friend request back 20 cents, as it is his principle.
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how long did your fren waited for the refund?
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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 2 2011, 06:55 PM)
how long did your fren waited for the refund?
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Not sure. Couple of months. The point is, he wants his 20 cents back from LHDN, even after wasting more time, tel bill, etc. than that.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Aug 3 2011, 11:11 AM)
Not sure. Couple of months. The point is, he wants his 20 cents back from LHDN, even after wasting more time, tel bill, etc. than that.
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well mine is like few hundred due to miscalculation by them
hoping will be getting the refund soon

coz i got fren already waited for years but still nothing been credited back to him
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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 3 2011, 01:47 PM)
well mine is like few hundred due to miscalculation by them
hoping will be getting the refund soon

coz i got fren already waited for years but still nothing been credited back to him
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Generally, the waiting is between 3-6 months. Anything more than that, the individual must follow up with LHDN to get it sorted out. Silence does not amount to LHDN acceptance. LHDN may still dig out the individual previous years declaration (up to 7 years) for audit purpose.

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Aug 2 2011, 10:00 AM)

If u have tax file number, u need to give the tax file number to u employer. Then u just sit down and rest, u don't have to worry anymore.

It is the duty of your employer to deduct (PCB). Whether they (employer) do it or not, u don't have to worry, because u are nothing wrong in tax law.

In fact, I really don't like my employer to do PCB for me, because I don't need to worry about my tax credit. FYI, If u want to claim back tax credit, u need to bring in all sort of prove, receipt and sometime to might got into trouble if u mis-do u Borong B/BE!
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i see. so what if i dunt want my company to deduct PCB, can? Then i'll just file my tax forms myself next year. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Aug 3 2011, 02:52 PM)
i see. so what if i dunt want my company to deduct PCB, can? Then i'll just file my tax forms myself next year. sweat.gif
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LHDN made it compulsory for company to make PCB, as there are a lot of people who do not submit their tax declaration.

Anyway, if LHDN really wants to audit you, they can easily recalculate backwards from your EPF contribution and/or BNM to check your banking/financials. Unless you do all in cash and keep it in pillow or under the bed. Remember the bungalow house that got affected by the land slide near Bukit Antarabangsa ? rm500k cash in house rolleyes.gif and no one audit them whistling.gif

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QUOTE(snigapoe @ Aug 2 2011, 06:55 PM)
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Mine waited about 3.5 months. They send me a letter a few weeks after submitting my tax saying that it's under audit and if I do not hear from them in 3 months, I should contact them. So I contact them late June and got my cheque a few days later.
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Hello,

I need some help regarding on income tax issues. I would be glad if somebody can explain my situation.
I'm an offshore contract worker which hired by Switzerland company and my salary in USD which transaction by Tele-Transfer from Switzerland to Malaysia Bank.
I don't pay income tax in Switzerland. and I dont pay tax in Malaysia also but recently I've register an Income tax account in Malaysia.
My question is, is it taxable on my income situation? As far as I know, earning foreign currency is not taxable right? But the officer in LHDN told me that I need to show prove that I've pay tax in Switzerland, so that I dont have to pay it again in Malaysia. So this really worries me, if i need to start pay tax in Malaysia.

Please help me to sort out this issues... thank you in advance... cheers~
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QUOTE(hockster @ Aug 4 2011, 12:22 AM)
Hello,

I need some help regarding on income tax issues. I would be glad if somebody can explain my situation.
I'm an offshore contract worker which hired by Switzerland company and my salary in USD which transaction by Tele-Transfer from Switzerland to Malaysia Bank.
I don't pay income tax in Switzerland. and I dont pay tax in Malaysia also but recently I've register an Income tax account in Malaysia.
My question is, is it taxable on my income situation? As far as I know, earning foreign currency is not taxable right? But the officer in LHDN told me that I need to show prove that I've pay tax in Switzerland, so that I dont have to pay it again in Malaysia. So this really worries me, if i need to start pay tax in Malaysia.

Please help me to sort out this issues... thank you in advance... cheers~
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Just show them the statement that you had been taxed.. Salary slip auto taxed, right?

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QUOTE(hockster @ Aug 4 2011, 12:22 AM)
Hello,

I need some help regarding on income tax issues. I would be glad if somebody can explain my situation.
I'm an offshore contract worker which hired by Switzerland company and my salary in USD which transaction by Tele-Transfer from Switzerland to Malaysia Bank.
I don't pay income tax in Switzerland. and I dont pay tax in Malaysia also but recently I've register an Income tax account in Malaysia.
My question is, is it taxable on my income situation? As far as I know, earning foreign currency is not taxable right? But the officer in LHDN told me that I need to show prove that I've pay tax in Switzerland, so that I dont have to pay it again in Malaysia. So this really worries me, if i need to start pay tax in Malaysia.

Please help me to sort out this issues... thank you in advance... cheers~
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Switzerland (personal) income tax rate 22.4-42.2%

I would guess you are sort of like a contract worker. Therefore, you may use the country where you reside when you are onshore. If you prefer to get taxed in Switzerland, then by all means declare there. Otherwise, declare back in Malaysia LHDN.

If you declare and pay in Switzerland, and you bring the money back into Malaysia (buy house, car, etc.) and get audited by LHDN, LHDN may require you to show proof of the tax you paid in Switzerland, otherwise LHDN will tax you again.
Double Taxation Agreeement

No matter where you work, even on the moon/ISS, your income is still taxable.

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Out of curiosity, would buying dumbbells, medicine ball and say protein powder count under sports equipment? Can it be considered for bodybuilding activities?

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Out of curiosity, would buying dumbbells, medicine ball and say protein powder count under sports equipment? Can it be considered for bodybuilding activities?
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dumbells, medicine ball - yes
protein powder - i think not - edible, NOT EQUIPMENT

er.. what the fish are U asking about "bodybuilding" activities? got such tax relief meh? one of us is very confused tongue.gif
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Hello,

I need some help regarding on income tax issues. I would be glad if somebody can explain my situation.
I'm an offshore contract worker which hired by Switzerland company and my salary in USD which transaction by Tele-Transfer from Switzerland to Malaysia Bank.
I don't pay income tax in Switzerland. and I dont pay tax in Malaysia also but recently I've register an Income tax account in Malaysia.
My question is, is it taxable on my income situation? As far as I know, earning foreign currency is not taxable right? But the officer in LHDN told me that I need to show prove that I've pay tax in Switzerland, so that I dont have to pay it again in Malaysia. So this really worries me, if i need to start pay tax in Malaysia.

Please help me to sort out this issues... thank you in advance... cheers~
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Mind explain what is know as "offshore contract worker."

Where is the location of the work/job ?


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Mind explain what is know as "offshore contract worker."

Where is the location of the work/job ?
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Off Shore = In the middle of the sea. Those oil-rigs platform.

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QUOTE(takr @ Aug 4 2011, 10:55 AM)
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Out of curiosity, would buying dumbbells, medicine ball and say protein powder count under sports equipment? Can it be considered for bodybuilding activities?
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Refer attached "Explanatory Notes BE 2008.pdf", item D8C (page 6/12)

D8C PURCHASE OF SPORTS EQUIPMENT
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An amount limited to a maximum of RM300 is deductible in respect of expenses expended
by the individual for the purchase of sports equipment for any sports activity as defined
under the Sports Development Act 1997. Sports equipment includes equipment with short
lifespan e.g. golf balls and shuttlecocks but excluding sports attire, e.g. swimsuits and
sports shoes.


Under the Sports Development Act 1997 (Act-576), these are regarded as sports:

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Therefore, dumbbells and medicine balls are deductible.
Protein powder (food/water/nutritions) are not. Clothes, shoes, socks, belts, also cannot.

I'm trying to attach two PDFs into LYN, but always timed-out. You may refer the first doc here (post #2201)
The second doc is the Sports Development Act 1997 (can't upload here)

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dumbells, medicine ball - yes
protein powder - i think not - edible, NOT EQUIPMENT

er.. what the fish are U asking about "bodybuilding" activities? got such tax relief meh? one of us is very confused tongue.gif
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Hahaha.. thanks! Confused due to lack of calories to my brains (excuse!!) ... tongue.gif

Thanks cute_boboi .. I thought I saw bodybuilding somewhere..

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Hahaha.. thanks! Confused due to lack of calories to my brains (excuse!!) ...  tongue.gif

Thanks cute_boboi .. I thought I saw bodybuilding somewhere..
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Better and NOXplode into your routine drinks - helps kicks U up tongue.gif Dangerous handling weights when one is zombified brows.gif

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Switzerland (personal) income tax rate 22.4-42.2%

I would guess you are sort of like a contract worker. Therefore, you may use the country where you reside when you are onshore. If you prefer to get taxed in Switzerland, then by all means declare there. Otherwise, declare back in Malaysia LHDN.

If you declare and pay in Switzerland, and you bring the money back into Malaysia (buy house, car, etc.) and get audited by LHDN, LHDN may require you to show proof of the tax you paid in Switzerland, otherwise LHDN will tax you again.
Double Taxation Agreeement

No matter where you work, even on the moon/ISS, your income is still taxable.
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The LHDN Officer told me that, there is a kind of Offshore worker taxation, I wonder how is it look like? Anybody know what is offshore worker taxation rate?

Most of my offshore friends which are Malaysian told me that, they're earning foreign currency, and the currency conversion from the bank are considered blood sucking by the govern. and

My company is not registered under Malaysia firm, so its not taxable by LHDN.
While I'm bring in foreign currency into Malaysia, which mean I'm already (considered) contribute to the country..
If my income is still taxable by LHDN, it would be pain in the assss....

And annually i work 6-8mths, how to declare my income? because when I'm back in Malaysia I dont get pay.and what if i work only 4 mths a year? My salary is daily consolidate, which mean i get paid when i work, if i sit at home, i dont get a single cent.
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QUOTE(hockster @ Aug 4 2011, 04:45 PM)
The LHDN Officer told me that, there is a kind of Offshore worker taxation, I wonder how is it look like? Anybody know what is offshore worker taxation rate?
I suggest you to get more info from the LHDN officer on "Offshore worker taxation".

Most of my offshore friends which are Malaysian told me that, they're earning foreign currency, and the currency conversion from the bank are considered blood sucking by the govern. and
Not a valid reason.

My company is not registered under Malaysia firm, so its not taxable by LHDN.
False. It does not matter if the company is registered in M'sia or not.

While I'm bring in foreign currency into Malaysia, which mean I'm already (considered) contribute to the country..
Not a valid reason.

If my income is still taxable by LHDN, it would be pain in the assss....
Then, declare your income elsewhere in the world. Cayman Island ? Bahamas ? British Virgin Island ? Monaco ? etc. Then you have proof to LHDN, again ensure the countries you selected has Double Taxation Agreement. Otherwise, you will be taxed again by LHDN, even though you have declared you tax elsewhere.

And annually i work 6-8mths, how to declare my income? because when I'm back in Malaysia I dont get pay.and what if i work only 4 mths a year? My salary is daily consolidate, which mean i get paid when i work, if i sit at home, i dont get a single cent.
Again, not valid reason. Even if I work contract 1 week for rm200k, and then I rest 51 weeks. My 1 week 200k income is still taxable @ 26%
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Added on August 4, 2011, 5:24 pmI know it sucks to pay 26% max when the person can pay around 15% in HK/SG.

That is why the govt needs to introduce GST to tax people on the consumption, rather than the income.
Then the income tax % can be lowered.


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Added on August 4, 2011, 5:24 pmI know it sucks to pay 26% max when the person can pay around 15% in HK/SG.

That is why the govt needs to introduce GST to tax people on the consumption, rather than the income.
Then the income tax % can be lowered.
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If this is the case,
Then have to figure out some solution to minimization from being tax... This sounds better?

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If this is the case,
Then have to figure out some solution to escape from being tax. and makes min taxation...
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ahem ahem - sensitive word leh escape from being tax tongue.gif Sounds like evasion - which is illegal and can be jailed i think

tax optimization or minimization better word. This is a public forum - better not get into trouble with the taXMEN brows.gif
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Mine waited about 3.5 months. They send me a letter a few weeks after submitting my tax saying that it's under audit and if I do not hear from them in 3 months, I should contact them. So I contact them late June and got my cheque a few days later.
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sis..how u contact them? call? email?i also under semakan..2 weeks ago emailed them..they ask for some docs..scanned to them..after that they MIA and not reachable..
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I called them straight away.
I think you should call and chase them for your refund as well. smile.gif
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I'm an offshore contract worker

@hockster: this 5 words already gives you your answer. From the company's perspective, they are hiring a contractor that resides in "some other country" (i.e. offshore). that implies that the contractor is obliged to pay his taxes in whatever country he's from.

So, you do have obligations to pay your income taxes in Malaysia. Whether you choose to declare your income to LHDN or not is a separate issue, since it's arguably much easier for you to evade (since the company has no Malaysian presence, doesn't pay PCB, etc).
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I called them straight away.
I think you should call and chase them for your refund as well. smile.gif
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thank you! Think so..plan to call them already today..
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Just call them and they'll process it quicker. I too procrastinated in calling them, that's why my refund cheque took quite some time to reach me. smile.gif
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i called them 2 weeks ago
they just left my file withot processing
i think they lazy liao

until now still no refund@!
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QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 10 2011, 07:03 PM)
i called them 2 weeks ago
they just left my file withot processing
i think they lazy liao

until now still no refund@!
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Follow up with LHDN at least once a week by tel call.
For each call, get the person's name, and write it down, together with date and time.

If there is refund, it is your right to get it back.

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Hi all..

1) I got letter from lhdn, asking me to present them the original document for home loan interest.. anyway,
it doesn't matter what document.. the letter said

"sila kemukakan salinan asal ... bla bla",

but not a single line in the letter mentioning whether I should come to their office, or should I
mail it to them..

So, what should I do? go to lhdn? or mail them the document?


2) Another thing is, the letter mentions that I must give (kemukakan) document within 30 days from the date
of the letter. But I received the letter 3 weeks after the date on the later.. So, I only got 1 week? and
especially, raya holiday is near.. everywhere is holiday already.. should I ignore the timeline?


Tq.






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QUOTE(zeese @ Aug 24 2011, 05:07 PM)
Hi all..

1)  I got letter from lhdn, asking me to present them the original document for home loan interest.. anyway,
it doesn't matter what document.. the letter said

"sila kemukakan salinan asal ... bla bla",

but not a single line in the letter mentioning whether I should come to their office, or should I
mail it to them.. 

So, what should I do? go to lhdn? or mail them the document?
2) Another thing is, the letter mentions that I must give (kemukakan) document within 30 days from the date
of the letter. But I received the letter 3 weeks after the date on the later..  So, I only got 1 week? and
especially, raya holiday is near.. everywhere is holiday already.. should I ignore the timeline?
Tq.
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1) Call up and ask them whether they want to meet you up (with who, at which branch, date and time), or just snail-mail to them. If mail, remember to make photocopy to keep yourself.

2) Today is Wed. LHDN is working on Thu, Fri, next Monday and also next Fri (provided is not public holiday). Don't give excuse. I'm sure you have time to go yamcha, clubbing, shopping, dinner with friends/family, etc.
If you think settling LHDN is not that important, then just ignore it and do your other personal matters first.

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QUOTE(zeese @ Aug 24 2011, 05:07 PM)
Hi all..

1)  I got letter from lhdn, asking me to present them the original document for home loan interest.. anyway,
it doesn't matter what document.. the letter said

"sila kemukakan salinan asal ... bla bla",

but not a single line in the letter mentioning whether I should come to their office, or should I
mail it to them.. 

So, what should I do? go to lhdn? or mail them the document?
2) Another thing is, the letter mentions that I must give (kemukakan) document within 30 days from the date
of the letter. But I received the letter 3 weeks after the date on the later..  So, I only got 1 week? and
especially, raya holiday is near.. everywhere is holiday already.. should I ignore the timeline?
Tq.
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Call them and ask. It's better if you set up a time and go to their office.
If you mail your documents to them, they might say they never receive or they may really never receive it. And you'll lose all your documents, which I'm very sure you wouldn't want that.

Best is that you get it done before the timeline. Or they may charge you a fine.
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QUOTE(zeese @ Aug 24 2011, 05:07 PM)
Hi all..

1)  I got letter from lhdn, asking me to present them the original document for home loan interest.. anyway,
it doesn't matter what document.. the letter said

"sila kemukakan salinan asal ... bla bla",

but not a single line in the letter mentioning whether I should come to their office, or should I
mail it to them.. 

So, what should I do? go to lhdn? or mail them the document?
2) Another thing is, the letter mentions that I must give (kemukakan) document within 30 days from the date
of the letter. But I received the letter 3 weeks after the date on the later..  So, I only got 1 week? and
especially, raya holiday is near.. everywhere is holiday already.. should I ignore the timeline?
Tq.
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1) When in doubt, call to ask. Try giving a call to seek clarification. Whatever documents u submit to them, make sure u retain a copy for urself.

2) There are many ppl with such issues where the IRB states that the documents must be presented in 30 days from the letter dated but ppl actually receive the letter later. In such cases, call up to seek for extension explaining ur predicament. If u have your documents ready, then try to submit it within the timeline. It's better not to give a bad impression as a headstart. There's still today and tomorrow for u to give a call. smile.gif
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QUOTE(zeese @ Aug 24 2011, 05:07 PM)
Hi all..

1)  I got letter from lhdn, asking me to present them the original document for home loan interest.. anyway,
it doesn't matter what document.. the letter said

"sila kemukakan salinan asal ... bla bla",

but not a single line in the letter mentioning whether I should come to their office, or should I
mail it to them.. 

So, what should I do? go to lhdn? or mail them the document?
2) Another thing is, the letter mentions that I must give (kemukakan) document within 30 days from the date
of the letter. But I received the letter 3 weeks after the date on the later..  So, I only got 1 week? and
especially, raya holiday is near.. everywhere is holiday already.. should I ignore the timeline?
Tq.
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I got the letter ask for copy of document too, I 've call them up. They won't spent time to meet us.

I believe those claim for Housing Loan Rebate, they will ask for supporting.

You may mail the document, or sent it personally to the LHDN branch counter.

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I got the letter ask for copy of document too, I 've call them up. They won't spent time to meet us.

I believe those claim for Housing Loan Rebate, they will ask for supporting.

You may mail the document, or sent it personally to the LHDN branch counter.
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You're exactly right. It's about the housing loan rebate. They want the proof for it.

Thank you guys for all you advices. I've called them up. The person said, by mail also
ok, but I better send it by person. and ask me to submit it to the branch that sent out
the letter. There're so many nearby branch, but now, I got to go to the far one.. haishhhh..


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QUOTE(zeese @ Aug 25 2011, 10:46 AM)
You're exactly right. It's about the housing loan rebate. They want the proof for it.

Thank you guys for all you advices. I've called them up. The person said, by mail also
ok, but I better send it by person. and ask me to submit it to the branch that sent out
the letter. There're so many nearby branch, but now, I got to go to the far one.. haishhhh..
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And remember to get the counter staff to stamp on ur letter 'RECEIVED with (date)'.

My after sent until today also no reply yet, hopefully no issue.
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inefficient~!
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And remember to get the counter staff to stamp on ur letter 'RECEIVED with (date)'.

My after sent until today also no reply yet, hopefully no issue.
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oh.. i got 1 more related question, other than the requested document, it also mention
'Sila sertakan Tarikh tanda tangan dokumen Perjanjian jual beli (S&P) and Penyata Bank'.

when it says, tarikh tanda tangan, just write down the date or what?
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QUOTE(zeese @ Aug 25 2011, 11:26 AM)
oh.. i got 1 more related question, other than the requested document, it also mention
'Sila sertakan Tarikh tanda tangan dokumen Perjanjian jual beli (S&P) and Penyata Bank'.

when it says, tarikh tanda tangan, just write down the date or what?
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My one got written in the letter, first 3 pages of the SNP. Cos that 3 pages got indicate Name, Date, and Price.


Added on August 25, 2011, 11:30 am
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yet to receive my refund

inefficient~!
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Yalah, ask for our money damn strict. When come to refund, keep drag....Dateline for us to report is April, now is almost September.... rclxub.gif

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I see. Thanks danny. You've been so helpful..
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I see. Thanks danny. You've been so helpful..
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Welcome. Just share what I know. biggrin.gif

Cos I'm facing the same problem too. doh.gif
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Did you call them up and chase them?
I've actually been procrastinating about calling them when I haven't got my refund. Then I called them up one day and they say my cheque is on the way. I receive the cheque the next week. smile.gif
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Did you call them up and chase them?
I've actually been procrastinating about calling them when I haven't got my refund. Then I called them up one day and they say my cheque is on the way. I receive the cheque the next week. smile.gif
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previously I asked about.the huge amount of tax deduction from my hq due my salary increment and was told in the remaining months of 2011 there will be little.deduction. but till now the deduction is quite huge per month..

no problem right? as I can get back the money in next year.
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QUOTE(squareballs @ Aug 27 2011, 04:57 PM)
previously I asked about.the huge amount of tax deduction from my hq due my salary increment and was told in the remaining months of 2011 there will be little.deduction. but till now the deduction is quite huge per month..

no problem right? as I can get back the money in next year.
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better not to have the lhdn keep your money.. You'll get your money, but you're not guaranteed to get it quickly. It can be fast, or it can take a few years..
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but I couldn't take back the money now right.. need to wait till next year
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but I couldn't take back the money now right.. need to wait till next year
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Yes. For 2011 deductions, the assessment will be done next year Jan-Mar. Therefore, once you get your EA forms and all other docs, just submit as early as possible, e.g. early Jan. You'll get back the extra money (if any) faster.

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anyone here received the refund?

i have yet to get



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Need advise from pros here. Recently i got an offer from an US company, who plan to setup a new office in Taiwan. Situation is: i need to start work in malaysia, as a consultant, before TW working Visa approved.

During the consulting period, can US comp(they are not registered comp in Malaysia) direct transfer the money to my malaysia bank account?
If Yes, is it tax-able? If No, what can be done for me to get the money?


If i start work in TW, i should paying the income tax there. Beside that, is there any other tax i need to cover in Malaysia?
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sorry didn't read through the long posts ..

just wanna ask...

if i have shares in company, and year end company pays me dividends from profit after tax (upon my shareholdings)... i heard the company already pays the tax, and i don't have to pay in my income tax for the following year?

is that true? just wanna confirm.
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anyone here received the refund?

i have yet to get
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Anyone knows how the calculation for PCB is made or is there a scale? About 7% of my monthly salary goes into PCB, is this considered normal or high? Thanks
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Anyone knows how the calculation for PCB is made or is there a scale? About 7% of my monthly salary goes into PCB, is this considered normal or high? Thanks
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Please refer to the PCB revised in 2010:

http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/SCHEDULESTD2010.pdf
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Please refer to the PCB revised in 2010:

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hi guys ... just wanna share my experience here .... me too had experience the slow refunding process by LHDN ... just shortly after submitting my Be Form, first i was being informed by letter that my refund need to be process and to seek them if no reply in 2 months .... after 3 months of frustrated waiting then i go see the branch which keeps my file ... i was told my them that to furnish my EA form & first 3 pages of S&P and also the housing loan bank statement .... after furnishing them the above documents and voila my cheque arrived a week after that ...

so to summarise ... just see them and they would process the thing faster
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Me too, they deduct RM79.75 one shot, only one month, it's I will get it back end of this year?.
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Me too, they deduct RM79.75 one shot, only one month, it's I will get it back end of this year?.
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sorry didn't read through the long posts ..

just wanna ask...

if i have shares in company, and year end company pays me dividends from profit after tax (upon my shareholdings)... i heard the company already pays the tax, and i don't have to pay in my income tax for the following year?

is that true? just wanna confirm.
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Do we need to declare Dividend earned from REITs, which has been taxed at 10% already.
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Do we need to declare Dividend earned from REITs, which has been taxed at 10% already.
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Yes, need to declare it.
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But we already paid 10% With-holding Tax.... icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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The withholding tax is a final tax. Individuals and non-corporate investors are not required to declare REIT dividend income in their tax filing/returns. As such, you are not allowed to claim tax refund or tax offset in your tax returns, as opposed to other dividend income (provided you are receiving taxable dividend or non single tier dividend from your share investments). However, REIT dividends which attracts only 10% in the hand of unitholders, which is more tax beneficiary to those higher income earners whose tax brackets could be higher than 10%, up to a maximum of 27%.

Source : http://www.nbc.com.my/real-estate-investme...t-malaysia.html

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This year i filed a tax refund but when will they issue back the refund?

Its been quite sometime...
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Do I have to declare income sourced from the U.S.? I'm freelancing for a company there and they pay by PayPal, which funds are transferred to my bank directly. I have another income source from my blog, and have not declared anything yet since the accountant says it's OK not to declare income less than RM2,500 per month. Also, if I were to pay tax for my blogging income, do I get to deduct the cost like domain names, hosting etc?

Will IRB come knocking my door if I purchase a new or used car, with or without loan?

One more thing: If my mom paid for my education fees in 2009 and 2010, and I'm repaying her monthly now, can I deduct it as my individual education fees? Consider it I loan my education fees from my mom?

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preferable you declare. at least IRB know you're so called "honest" to declare. Whether you declare your blog income or not, it's very subjective. I would recommend you to declare. at least when you mentioned about buying hse, it's easier.

ur education, i don't think you can deduct in that way cos that's your mom, not Registered Financial Institution under Bank Negara. smile.gif

buy car is easier and not involve much of income tax. but buy hse / property is different. you need to supply your IRB's relevant document when apply loan.

just my 2 cents.
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Switzerland (personal) income tax rate 22.4-42.2%

I would guess you are sort of like a contract worker. Therefore, you may use the country where you reside when you are onshore. If you prefer to get taxed in Switzerland, then by all means declare there. Otherwise, declare back in Malaysia LHDN.

If you declare and pay in Switzerland, and you bring the money back into Malaysia (buy house, car, etc.) and get audited by LHDN, LHDN may require you to show proof of the tax you paid in Switzerland, otherwise LHDN will tax you again.
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Hello,

I need some help regarding on income tax issues. I would be glad if somebody can explain my situation.
I'm an offshore contract worker which hired by Switzerland company and my salary in USD which remitted from Switzerland to Malaysia Bank.
I dont pay tax in Malaysia also but recently I've register an Income tax account in Malaysia. ( Just bought a house )
My question is, is it taxable on my income situation? As far as I know, earning foreign currency is not taxable right? But the officer in LHDN told me that I need to pay tax in Malaysia.

Please help me to sort out this issues... thank you in advance... cheers~



Hi there, thank you for the reply.. I've found some information regarding on the Tax Exemption for the Foreign currencies earner. So if u work on the moon, and you received foreign currencies you dont have to pay tax IN MALAYSIA?

" A. Personal Income Tax
1. Who is Liable?
However, with effect from the year of assessment 2004,
income received in Malaysia by an individual for a year of
assessment that is derived from sources outside Malaysia is
exempted from tax. "


Pick from : http://www.kehakiman.gov.my/sites/default/...%20Thailand.pdf

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you.

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Found the following exemption:

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Individu yang bermastautin di Malaysia dikecualikan daripada cukai atas pendapatan royaltinya seperti berikut :

Penerimaan hasil penerbitan karya kesusasteraan /lukisan asli/penggubahan muzik  RM20,000

Walau bagaimanapun, pengecualian di atas tidak terpakai jika bayaran yang diterima menjadi sebahagian daripada gaji yang diterima oleh individu itu dalam menjalankan tugas rasmi.


I'm a freelance writer for an online publication in U.S. They pay by the number of articles I write per month, not a fixed amount per month like described in the last clause above. Can I consider it karya kesusasteraan, or in English, literary works? Is there any strict definition to that?

Thanks.

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Hello guys I submitted Borang B on 30th June this year for last year assessment (2010). But till today not even a letter from IRB come to acknowledge the assessment is correctly done and the amount needed to pay. Do I have to go to their branch again? It's so far.
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Hello guys I submitted Borang B on 30th June this year for last year assessment (2010). But till today not even a letter from IRB come to acknowledge the assessment is correctly done and the amount needed to pay. Do I have to go to their branch again? It's so far.
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this is my concern ,

i apply a housing loan , and attached with my tax receipt for year 2010.

Can anyone tell me whether this receipt is paying for year 2010 or year 2011. One of the bank keep saying that my tax receipt is paying for year 2011.
But how could anyone pay for year 2011 at this moment ??? and my receipt amount is tally with my year 2010 borang B also.


Sifu please help, please tell me whether is my problem or theirs.....



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this is my concern ,

i apply a housing loan , and attached with my tax receipt for year 2010.

Can anyone tell me whether this receipt is paying for year 2010 or year 2011. One of the bank keep saying that my tax receipt is paying for year 2011.
But how could anyone pay for year 2011 at this moment ??? and my receipt amount is tally with my year 2010 borang B also.
Sifu please help, please tell me whether is my problem or theirs.....
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You're paying for 2011. When payment you must have checked the wrong year of assessment
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OH rclxub.gif is there anyway i can change this issue?? because this is the way i used to report tax leh.......
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QUOTE(tchtax @ Oct 18 2011, 10:28 AM)
IRB does not issue Form J anymore. It's self assessment system. What you have filled out as tax payable (or refund) on the Form B is taken as final (unless you get audited by the IRB)
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OH  rclxub.gif is there anyway i can change this issue?? because this is the way i used to report tax leh.......
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Go and see the tax officer at your branch. (Collections dept)
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Hi,

I am a fresh grad and I think I have to pay income tax soon.

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From the table, the income tax to be paid is based on our annual income right?

The annual income is inclusive of the allowances in salary or only the basic of salary?

The tax reliefs, for example, RM500 (max) for broadband, we deduct that RM500 from our annual income together with other tax reliefs, then the balance will be match to the table above to determine how much tax to be paid?

Thanks for answering my questions in advance =)
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Hi,

I am a fresh grad and I think I have to pay income tax soon.

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From the table, the income tax to be paid is based on our annual income right?

The annual income is inclusive of the allowances in salary or only the basic of salary?

The tax reliefs, for example, RM500 (max) for broadband, we deduct that RM500 from our annual income together with other tax reliefs, then the balance will be match to the table above to determine how much tax to be paid?

Thanks for answering my questions in advance =)
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QUOTE(chicaman @ Oct 22 2011, 12:48 PM)
Hi,

I am a fresh grad and I think I have to pay income tax soon.

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From the table, the income tax to be paid is based on our annual income right?

The annual income is inclusive of the allowances in salary or only the basic of salary?

The tax reliefs, for example, RM500 (max) for broadband, we deduct that RM500 from our annual income together with other tax reliefs, then the balance will be match to the table above to determine how much tax to be paid?

Thanks for answering my questions in advance =)
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A simple example below:
Your annual gross income + bonus + special + etc. = RM36,000
Your rental + dividend + direct sales + any other income = RM15,000

Total = RM51,000

Less : 9k? relief, other deductions like broadband, books, insurance/epf, etc.
let's say RM13,000

Taxable amount
= 51k - 13k
= 38k

Refer your table 35k-50k
On the first 35k = 1,525
Next 15k = 12% x (38k-35k) = 360

Total tax payable = 1525 + 360
= RM1,885


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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Oct 24 2011, 12:04 PM)
A simple example below:
Your annual gross income + bonus + special + etc. = RM36,000
Your rental + dividend + direct sales + any other income = RM15,000

Total = RM51,000

Less : 9k? relief, other deductions like broadband, books, insurance/epf, etc.
let's say RM13,000

Taxable amount
= 51k - 13k
= 38k

Refer your table 35k-50k
On the first 35k = 1,525
Next 15k = 12% x (38k-35k) = 360

Total tax payable = 1525 + 360
= RM1,885
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hi I want to ask right, currently I'm working with my dad, salary not fix. sometime 3k sometime 1.5k depend the business. so should I pay income tax in this situation? bit usuallly more than 1.9k.
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QUOTE(JeffreyYap @ Oct 25 2011, 10:30 AM)
hi I want to ask right, currently I'm working with my dad, salary not fix. sometime 3k sometime 1.5k depend the business. so should I pay income tax in this situation? bit usuallly more than 1.9k.
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You may not be taxable, but however, I suggest you to start early to DECLARE your income tax only. It is useful if you wish to apply loan/credit/car in future. Start to collect the salary slip, kwsp (if got), etc. so that you can declare in Jan-Apr 2012 (for year 2011). If you don't have an income tax file yet, just go LHDN and enquire to open one.

e.g.
Jan 2011 1.5k
Feb 3k
Mar 1.5k
Apr 3k
May 1.5k
Jun 3k
Jul 1.5k
Aug 3k
Sep 1.5k
Oct 3k
Nov 1.5k
Dec 3k

Total income for year 2011 = 27k
Less: Self relief, EPF/medical insurance/etc., let's say 12k
Taxable income = 27k-12k = 15k

On First 10k = Tax RM175
Next 10k @3% = (15k-10k) x 3% = RM150

Total taxable = 175+150 = RM325
Less: tax rebate RM400 (for those below 36k p.a.)
= -RM75 (means you no need pay tax thumbup.gif )

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Oct 25 2011, 11:02 AM)
You may not be taxable, but however, I suggest you to start early to DECLARE your income tax only. It is useful if you wish to apply loan/credit/car in future. Start to collect the salary slip, kwsp (if got), etc. so that you can declare in Jan-Apr 2012 (for year 2011). If you don't have an income tax file yet, just go LHDN and enquire to open one.

e.g.
Jan 2011  1.5k
Feb  3k
Mar 1.5k
Apr 3k
May 1.5k
Jun 3k
Jul 1.5k
Aug 3k
Sep 1.5k
Oct 3k
Nov 1.5k
Dec 3k

Total income for year 2011 = 27k
Less: Self relief, EPF/medical insurance/etc., let's say 12k
Taxable income = 27k-12k = 15k

On First 10k = Tax RM175
Next 10k @3% = (15k-10k) x 3% = RM150

Total taxable = 175+150 = RM325
Less: tax rebate RM400 (for those below 36k p.a.)
= -RM75 (means you no need pay tax  thumbup.gif )
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My brother ask me, but I need some sifu here to explain, is there any personal income tax 2.3K monthly salary before less EPF?

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My brother ask me, but I need some sifu here to explain, is there any personal income tax 2.3K monthly salary before less EPF?
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?????

do u mean that>>>will gross (before epf n socso deduction) income of 2.3k p.m. be taxed?

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2.3k gross x 12 months will not subject to income tax


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Monthly salary RM2,300.00
Monthly Salary (-) EPF = RM2,070.25
Annual (+) Bonus RM2,000.00
Expendable Annual Income = RM26,843.00

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QUOTE(yong417 @ Oct 25 2011, 09:04 PM)
?????

do u mean that>>>will gross (before epf n socso deduction) income of 2.3k p.m. be taxed?
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QUOTE(nothingz @ Oct 25 2011, 09:55 PM)
2.3k gross x 12 months will not subject to income tax
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If 2.3k x 12 = RM27,600 then it over what the star news said anually income RM27,000, have to pay tax?

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Hi, im fresh grad just come out to working world. Currently, im doing self-study on income tax stuff so that I wont struggle later when i need to declare my tax. wanna ask, is paying back ptptn loan for degree education tax deductable?
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ptptn loan is is not allow to do tax deduction
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QUOTE(Budak Kampung @ Oct 27 2011, 03:44 AM)
Hi, im fresh grad just come out to working world. Currently, im doing self-study on income tax stuff so that I wont struggle later when i need to declare my tax. wanna ask, is paying back ptptn loan for degree education tax deductable?
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Pay loan also want income tax deduction doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
Just make sure you pay up your PTPTN loan vmad.gif mad.gif
Money provided by PTPTN loan comes from taxpayers lah !!!
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LOL just trying tho. thanks for the info. :-P
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Hi Guys,

Just need to ask a question about bank loan queries.

I'm quite lost when it comes to taxes and stuff, and i know you require something like a BE form and a tax receipt for bank housing loans.

I have been paying my taxes, as i can see from my salary slip that tax has been deducted every month. The tax dept has also confirmed that i have an account open with them.

I have my 2010 EA form with me , but how do i get the tax receipt? I don't have any pin number of any sort to login to their website and i'm not sure if i'm even eligible to have the tax receipt since the HR from my company only deducts for the tax, and i have not done anything myself.


Thanks in advanced!
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QUOTE(sughizo @ Nov 3 2011, 03:50 PM)
Hi Guys,

Just need to ask a question about bank loan queries.

I'm quite lost when it comes to taxes and stuff, and i know you require something like a BE form and a tax receipt for bank housing loans.

I have been paying my taxes, as i can see from my salary slip that tax has been deducted every month. The tax dept has also confirmed that i have an account open with them.

I have my 2010 EA form with me , but how do i get the tax receipt? I don't have any pin number of any sort to login to their website and i'm not sure if i'm even eligible to have the tax receipt since the HR from my company only deducts for the tax, and i have not done anything myself.
Thanks in advanced!
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Go get your pin number from LHDN. The purpose is for you to be able to file your income tax online. That's it.

As for the tax receipt for the tax that have been deducted by HR from your salary, you don't need a receipt for that because it will be highlighted in a EA form. EA form is a proof that you've paid certain amount for your income tax.

Tax receipt for housing loan? I simply means your housing loan statement that the bank usually mail to your house.
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Thanks Zeese for the explanation. Much appreciated!
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all these while i'm just paying my tax as employee using BE form. this year i've setup a company with few friends (as a director), in addition to my full time job.

so i guess for next year, i have to fill in Form B for income tax submission. do i need to inform income tax department of the change of my employment status? or i just fill in Form B and submit before next June?
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hi experts, need some advice and directions. I got my tax refund mid of this year, however today I received a letter from lhdn stating that I am audited and to produce the relevant receipts. I am puzzled at this. my computer claim is somewhat fake and my first payment for internet line was only due in Jan 2011. can I still produce this receipt? how can I go about this? why am I audited only after receiving my tax return?
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QUOTE(schnapps @ Nov 14 2011, 10:54 PM)
hi experts, need some advice and directions. I got my tax refund mid of this year, however today I received a letter from lhdn stating that I am audited and to produce the relevant receipts. I am puzzled at this. my computer claim is somewhat fake and my first payment for internet line was only due in Jan 2011. can I still produce this receipt? how can I go about this? why am I audited only after receiving my tax return?
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Did you cheat on the "additional" tax relief like Computer and Broadband ?
If you have all the relevant receipts, you have ZERO worry
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Did you cheat on the "additional" tax relief like Computer and Broadband ?
If you have all the relevant receipts, you have ZERO worry
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the computer receipt is genuine except I used a friends member card for discount where his name is printed on the receipt from Harvey Norman. as for broadband I only started using in Dec 2010. that I actually submit for full tax relief
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QUOTE(schnapps @ Nov 15 2011, 07:10 AM)
the computer receipt is genuine except I used a friends member card for discount where his name is printed on the receipt from Harvey Norman. as for broadband I only started using in Dec 2010. that I actually submit for full tax relief
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Computer receipt under your friend's name cannot be used. doh.gif shakehead.gif
Is the Broadband fee for Dec 2010 = RM300 ?

LHDN did a good to find out your "tax issues"... be prepared to pay some additional taxes + interest
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Nov 15 2011, 07:41 AM)
Computer receipt under your friend's name cannot be used.  doh.gif  shakehead.gif
Is the Broadband fee for Dec 2010 = RM300 ?

LHDN did a good to find out your "tax issues"... be prepared to pay some additional taxes + interest
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Dec bill dated 1 Jan 2011. 300++ . the name for the computer receipt is because I used my friends membership card. isn't tat justifiable enough? what kind of penalty amount am I looking at here?
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QUOTE(schnapps @ Nov 14 2011, 10:54 PM)
hi experts, need some advice and directions. I got my tax refund mid of this year, however today I received a letter from lhdn stating that I am audited and to produce the relevant receipts. I am puzzled at this. my computer claim is somewhat fake and my first payment for internet line was only due in Jan 2011. can I still produce this receipt? how can I go about this? why am I audited only after receiving my tax return?
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Seriously:
(1) LHDN can audit any of your income, up to 7 years history, whether you declare or not declare.

(2) Computer claim - good luck. Goto LYP or LYN forum and try to get a valid backdated receipt, buy

(3) Internet line - good luck. You can try *fake* the receipt. But if LHDN go deep down and contact the telco, your payment will not be in the system.

(4) There is two things you can't avoid in life: death and taxes.

(5) Suggest you to surrender to LHDN. i.e. wrong declaration. They will recalculate the extra taxes you need to pay, and also may fine (denda) you.


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hi guys, need some advice because im really blur in things related to tax..
my new employer requested me for my tax file number but i have nv file any tax b4..my previous salary did not reach 2500 per month so i nv bother..but i still remember there was once in my pay slip that my salary was deducted to pay tax.. my previous employer gave me the EA slip..but how do i check the tax file number?
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QUOTE(sheng @ Nov 19 2011, 03:34 PM)
hi guys, need some advice because im really blur in things related to tax..
my new employer requested me for my tax file number but i have nv file any tax b4..my previous salary did not reach 2500 per month so i nv bother..but i still remember there was once in my pay slip that my salary was deducted to pay tax.. my previous employer gave me the EA slip..but how do i check the tax file number?
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Wrong place here to check if you already have an existing file.

Call up LHDN if they allow you to check over phone.
or email them.
or goto their counter.

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Hi guys

My relative got a notice of offense for not reporting his YA2006 income. But the problem is that he have already took VSS at 2005 and left the company . For 2006 onward he did not work till now as he rely on his son.

The offense is under seksyen 112. What should he do now? Report to income tax or just let it be?
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Better check with them either by phone, email, or counter and explain your case, they are the only one can help your relative...asap is better
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Nov 29 2011, 05:39 PM)
Hi guys

My relative got a notice of offense for not reporting his YA2006 income. But the problem is that he have already took VSS at 2005 and left the company . For 2006 onward he did not work till now as he rely on his son.

The offense is under seksyen 112. What should he do now? Report to income tax or just let it be?
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all he nids to do is to c officer in charge by bringing da VSS letter as the supporting documents.. n tat he hasnt been working since then.. mayb can nego wif the officer in charge to not penalise him for not submitting his tax returns..
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Do he need to bring any bank statement and such?
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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Nov 29 2011, 11:09 PM)
Do he need to bring any bank statement and such?
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If he has nothing to hide, i.e. clean, just bring everything. Showhand with LHDN. Nothing to scare. Worse case is LHDN claim he didn't submit BE/B form for YA2006 only.

If like that, just submit (late submission) and small fine (RM50?) only.
Otherwise, if win, walk out clean.

However, if he has other side-income or undeclared/under-declared... then good luck sweat.gif
Or perhaps those local stock market dividends hmm.gif

I was audited once, I asked them why me, they claimed it is random. Brought all docs / receipts / etc. Showhand with them. They can't bite in at all, not even small chew icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 4 2011, 01:24 PM)
all these while i'm just paying my tax as employee using BE form. this year i've setup a company with few friends (as a director), in addition to my full time job.

so i guess for next year, i have to fill in Form B for income tax submission. do i need to inform income tax department of the change of my employment status? or i just fill in Form B and submit before next June?
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Nov 30 2011, 04:53 PM)
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Fellow forumers, heard anything about personal income tax on the FiT income?
Pretty big hit if an individual is taxed AND the donkey CAPEX cannot be depreciated.

Copied and pasted from SEDA's website (http://seda.gov.my)
27. Is income from feed-in tariffs considered taxable income?

Yes, it is taxable income and any exemptions would require a policy decision from the Government. KeTTHA will monitor the progress of renewable energy growth in the country and conduct necessary analyses before putting forth any policy recommendations on this matter.
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Anyone can provide step by step guide to submit income tax?

Thanks for the help.
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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Dec 3 2011, 08:26 PM)
Anyone can provide step by step guide to submit income tax?

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1) go to lhdn, create your income tax account.
2) ask for your password for e-filing
3) login to lhdn e-filing... start fill in the blanks. In order to do that, you
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4) start asking question in this thread when you don't know how to fill on
any specific part of the e-fling questionaire.
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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Dec 3 2011, 08:26 PM)
Anyone can provide step by step guide to submit income tax?

Thanks for the help.
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call LHDN to organise a session for your office.
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does anyone know if claims for computer, is it for single computer only or if i had purchase, say 2 computers, claim up to total of RM3000?
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hey guys, i got an issue that i need help with:

i got a letter from LHDN asking me to provide salinan asal of some documents and all that. this came from the kg. attap branch.

i got 2 problems:
1. the phone number provided in the letterhead i.e. 03-22633600 doesn't seem to have anyone answering it. does anyone have another number where a human will pick up the line?

2. they said that i have to produce proof of those documents within 30 days of the letter. the problem is, the letter is dated 21 Oct, but the letter was posted 29 Nov!!! Even by the time I got the letter, it was already past the due date. anyone gone through this issue before?

will appreciate all help. thanks!
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Any tax consultant/agent/lawyer ever deal with individuals working offshore and employed/earning from foreign company but residing in malaysia? I need some advice on some issues regarding my income tax. Many thanx
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Dec 7 2011, 04:03 PM)
hey guys, i got an issue that i need help with:

i got a letter from LHDN asking me to provide salinan asal of some documents and all that. this came from the kg. attap branch.

i got 2 problems:
1. the phone number provided in the letterhead i.e. 03-22633600 doesn't seem to have anyone answering it. does anyone have another number where a human will pick up the line?

2. they said that i have to produce proof of those documents within 30 days of the letter. the problem is, the letter is dated 21 Oct, but the letter was posted 29 Nov!!! Even by the time I got the letter, it was already past the due date. anyone gone through this issue before?

will appreciate all help. thanks!
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the best way is to go oto ur kg attap branch and see the officer in charge.. giv all ur necessary documents and explained tat u onli received the letter after the due date.. if u haf valid reasons, they shud not penalise u...
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Need some advise on this


"Perbelanjaan Perubatan Ibu Bapa : 5,000 (Terhad)"

Does this include buying medicine for mom in law? I need to buy some meds (buying 1 year supply at one go) costing about RM2~2.5k from hospital. If I get the resit opened under my name can I claim as my parents medication cost?

If there is a link to read up on this I woudl appreciate it thanks!



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Hi all.
I already many times read about income tax.
http://www.hasil.org.my/goindex.php?lgv=2&chg=1
Actually I'm not understand.
This year already RM150 pcb from my salary.

The problem is, I always not enough money.
Because everything we buy give the profit to government.
Let said car, yearly need to pay insurance and road tax.
Loans include the interest 2-4% depends on the loans itself.
Buying house also same.

This years some expenses increase;-
1. Petrol
2. Electricity
3. Communication
4. Broadband (6%)

I fell very bad and burden.


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QUOTE(MeToo @ Dec 10 2011, 07:25 PM)
Need some advise on this
"Perbelanjaan Perubatan Ibu Bapa : 5,000 (Terhad)"

Does this include buying medicine for mom in law? I need to buy some meds (buying 1 year supply at one go) costing about RM2~2.5k from hospital. If I get the resit opened under my name can I claim as my parents medication cost?

If there is a link to read up on this I woudl appreciate it thanks!
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The receipt must state "Your Name for Parent's Name" eg. John Tan Ah Kau for Joelle Tang Yi Yi
Mother-in-law's medication cost can be claimed by your wife only.
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QUOTE(MSS @ Dec 11 2011, 08:31 AM)
Hi all.
I already many times read about income tax.
http://www.hasil.org.my/goindex.php?lgv=2&chg=1
Actually I'm not understand.
This year already RM150 pcb from my salary.

The problem is, I always not enough money.
Because everything we buy give the profit to government.
Let said car, yearly need to pay insurance and road tax.
Loans include the interest 2-4% depends on the loans itself.
Buying house also same.

This years some expenses increase;-
1. Petrol
2. Electricity
3. Communication
4. Broadband (6%)

I fell very bad and burden.
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How to check the tax reference number?


Added on December 12, 2011, 12:06 pmAny open source tax calculator software available?

Thanks.

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 11 2011, 12:16 PM)
The receipt must state "Your Name for Parent's Name" eg. John Tan Ah Kau for Joelle Tang Yi Yi
Mother-in-law's medication cost can be claimed by your wife only.
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Thanks! Will take note on the receipt.... my wife claim not so worth due to tax bracket differences..
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All the while me and my wifes' tax files are maintained perfectly. Every piece of documents that relates to LHDN is kept in my file. Every year the total deductions will be more than tax amount, hence every year I get tax refunds.

Recently, my wife got a letter from LHDN stating that she owes RM6 for 2004 assessment. I helped my wife to write a letter, attaching all the LHDN Statements and Refund Vouchers to ask how the RM6 came about. Well, the answer that my wife got from LHDN is that they are doing a random audit and found an imbalance amount in my wife's account. But they are unable to tell how they arrive at the amount. Even though they refund overpaid tax for 2003, 2004 & 2005 respectively.

While I do not mind paying the RM6 which is really a small sum, I am suspicious with the way LHDN came up with such claim in year 2011 for 2004 assessment. They can simply come up with such claim for a number of tax payers to cover up the shortfall in collection for the current year.

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sorry for my noob question. but want to ask something..
if company deduct ur earnings every month for tax...those tax are not subjected to any reliefs rite? so confirm u will pay more lor..
how do we go about this? how can we get a rebate for the extra taxes that we have paid...? how long does it take for LHDN to pay u back the money?
is it done on april every year?
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hi all, last year mid i reg a enterprise business, since i'm working, i plan to do as part time, but till now not do any business, but now i plan to do general insurance under my business, let say i start doing business from this month dec 2011, how about tax filing for year 2010 and 2011, or better start doing business from January 2011, so start can filing for 2012 only, is it necessary i have to file since i reg the busi, pls advice

thanks in advance

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QUOTE(stacko @ Dec 19 2011, 06:13 PM)
All the while me and my wifes' tax files are maintained perfectly. Every piece of documents that relates to LHDN is kept in my file. Every year the total deductions will be more than tax amount, hence every year I get tax refunds.

Recently, my wife got a letter from LHDN stating that she owes RM6 for 2004 assessment. I helped my wife to write a letter, attaching all the LHDN Statements and Refund Vouchers to ask how the RM6 came about. Well, the answer that my wife got from LHDN is that they are doing a random audit and found an imbalance amount in my wife's account. But they are unable to tell how they arrive at the amount. Even though they refund overpaid tax for 2003, 2004 & 2005 respectively.

While I do not mind paying the RM6 which is really a small sum, I am suspicious with the way LHDN came up with such claim in year 2011 for 2004 assessment. They can simply come up with such claim for a number of tax payers to cover up the shortfall in collection for the current year.
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I would stick to "Innocent until proven guilty". Hence, stick to your gun. Write an official letter and submit to LHDN, preferable hand-in yourself at counter (print out 2 copies), and ask them chop-received on the other copy (you keep). Ask them to explain in detail how they come up with the RM6.

As long as they can't come up, don't pay.

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QUOTE(sheng @ Dec 19 2011, 06:19 PM)
sorry for my noob question. but want to ask something..
if company deduct ur earnings every month for tax...those tax are not subjected to any reliefs rite? so confirm u will pay more lor..
how do we go about this? how can we get a rebate for the extra taxes that we have paid...? how long does it take for LHDN to pay u back the money?
is it done on april every year?
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When you do your income tax filing in April you just compute like normal and derive what is the amount of tax that you need to pay then deduct the total amount that was deducted by your co as tax. If tax deducted is more than you need to pay then wait for the refund and if tax deducted is less than what you are taxed then you need to pay the difference to IRB.

Your EA form should indicate at the bottom the total amount tax that employer has deducted to pay IRB for the year.
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Dec 20 2011, 11:19 AM)
When you do your income tax filing in April you just compute like normal and derive what is the amount of tax that you need to pay then deduct the total amount that was deducted by your co as tax. If tax deducted is more than you need to pay then wait for the refund and if tax deducted is less than what you are taxed then you need to pay the difference to IRB.

Your EA form should indicate at the bottom the total amount tax that employer has deducted to pay IRB for the year.
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Hi,

Would appreciate if anybody could answer my questions:

1. Do buying hearing aid for my mother count as tax relief?
2. Does the receipt have to state my name or is it okay if it's under my mother's name only?

Thanks!
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Hi , not sure whether I can ask here.
Recently my friend dine at a restaurant and being impose of charge of 10% service tax + 6% G0v tax.
What's the criteria for 6% gov tax ? I remember over 1million will be able to tax.But for sure that tiny restaurant as my friend mention , no branch and etc impose 6 g0v tax at the bill.
Wondering why ? thanks you smile.gif


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Hi , not sure whether I can ask here.
Recently my friend dine at a restaurant and being impose of charge of 10% service tax + 6% G0v tax.
What's the criteria for 6% gov tax ? I remember over 1million will be able to tax.But for sure that tiny restaurant as my friend mention , no branch and etc impose 6 g0v tax at the bill.
Wondering why ? thanks you smile.gif
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 22 2011, 01:54 AM)
Hi , not sure whether I can ask here.
Recently my friend dine at a restaurant and being impose of charge of 10% service tax + 6% G0v tax.
What's the criteria for 6% gov tax ? I remember over 1million will be able to tax.But for sure that tiny restaurant as my friend mention , no branch and etc impose 6 g0v tax at the bill.
Wondering why ? thanks you smile.gif
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There is existing thread on service tax.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/777546/all
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Got this from FAQ of LHDN (FAQBEENG2010_01042011_1.pdf):

Q37: I have bought the computer components separately, that is monitor keyboarad, mouse and others. Can I claim relief for purchase of computer in item D8A in our Form BE 2010?

A37: The claim for the relief of purchase of computer will only be allowed if the purchases which were done separately were meant for assembling a full set and the purchases were made in the same year.


Wonder if I buy a tablet computer can I lump wireless keyboard/mouse/headphone, printer, ext-HDD/media player, 24" flat-screen monitor as a FULL set? What about other tablet accessories bought separately? I bet if you pose this Question to 10 IRB officers, some will say NO, some say yes and some say don't know.


Let say in 2010 I bought a PC and claim for tax relief of rm3000. Can I sell it off a few months later say in 2010 or 2011?

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Hmm, Does this mean I can't take 2009,2010, and 2011 receipts for PC component purchase and claim 1 time? I can only purchase everything (max 3k claim) within a year and claim them?

Need advise.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 28 2011, 11:10 AM)
Hmm, Does this mean I can't take 2009,2010, and 2011 receipts for PC component purchase and claim 1 time? I can only purchase everything (max 3k claim) within a year and claim them?

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You cannot combine receipt from different years to claim for the current Assessment Year.
You need to buy all components in the same year.
Computer Tax Relief can be claimed every 3 years
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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 23 2011, 10:14 AM)
Let say in 2010 I bought a PC and claim for tax relief of rm3000. Can I sell it off a few months later say in 2010 or 2011?
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You can sell it... BUT keep the original receipt for 7 years
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Q1: I claimed computer relief on 2008, so the 3yrs cool off I can claim again on 2011 or 2012?

Q2: The cap for computer relief is RM3k, can I combine receipts for 2 laptops within the same year, let say year 2011? Or must be 1 receipt?
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Dec 28 2011, 02:59 PM)
Q1: I claimed computer relief on 2008, so the 3yrs cool off I can claim again on 2011 or 2012? 2011 I guess, since it's [2008,2009,2010 comes in a set of 3]

Q2: The cap for computer relief is RM3k, can I combine receipts for 2 laptops within the same year, let say year 2011? Or must be 1 receipt? YES
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Thanks, now I had to wait next year to do 3k purchase, LOL.

Upgrading parts(e.g. processor, graphic card, motherboard) can be claimed right? As long as it goes into a "Complete Computer"
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 28 2011, 03:07 PM)
@ronnie
Thanks, now I had to wait next year to do 3k purchase, LOL.

Upgrading parts(e.g. processor, graphic card, motherboard) can be claimed right? As long as it goes into a "Complete Computer"
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Does all the parts make up into a working computer ?
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Teddy,

The literary works revenue that you have indicated in that example of yours is actually referring to royalties. So unless you are deriving royalties from your online published articles, the answer would be no. If you are already being taxed by the publisher in the US (as a result of taxation by proxy), then they would already have borne the losses on their end - no need to pay on your end.

Good luck.
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If I buy a notebook (rm2400) with extras (cost rm600) like:
- 4GB RAM upgrade
- MS-Office Home
- wireless keyboard/mouse
- Wireless router (to replace UNIFI router)
- wireless headphone with mic

Can I claim a relief of rm2400 or rm3000?
Or only some of the extras can claim the relief.

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hello, there are few questions i want to ask:

i have worked for 2 year (started from 2010) but i never declare my income tax...june of 2011 i bought a car and now i am applying loan for a house...but the question is i never declare income tax and i would like to declare now...any consequences for my situation? should i give up my loan and declare first?
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QUOTE(sunnyckh @ Dec 29 2011, 04:37 PM)
hello, there are few questions i want to ask:

i have worked for 2 year (started from 2010) but i never declare my income tax...june of 2011 i bought a car and now i am applying loan for a house...but the question is i never declare income tax and i would like to declare now...any consequences for my situation? should i give up my loan and declare first?
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Just proceed buy whatever you want, as long as the numbers sound logical (explain more below).

Ok, you need to declare in year 2012 (for year assessment 2011) before end-Apr 2012.
Inside that form, you can declare for previous year, i..e year assessment 2010 (the year you start work).
Declaration is based on calendar year (Jan-Dec) as per stated in your slips/receipts/etc.

Income & Loan, in case LHDN audit you.

(i) If you earn 30k per year, and you pay total downpayment 40k
-> obviously illogical, right ? Of course you can claim your parents help you pay 50%-100% of it. Fine. But LHDN may drag your parents in and audit their income tax declarations also. If your parents are clear (no evade / under-declare / not declare), then there is nothing to worry about. Otherwise ...

(ii) If you earn 30k per year, and you pay total downpayment 30k. Ok what ?
-> illogical also. No one can save all their income. What about EPF,Socso, insurance, etc. ? What about your daily expenses for food, clothing, etc. ? Again, you can claim your parents/sister/brother help you. Fine. LHDN may drag your parents/bro/sis in and audit ...

-> I got interest, etc. from Fixed Deposit, etc. Fine. LHDN may ask for details on this and the source of money (fraud ? money laundering ? etc.)

(iii) If you earn 30k per year, and you pay total downpayment <20k. Ok right ?
-> Yes, this sounds logical enough.

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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 29 2011, 01:14 PM)
If I buy a notebook (rm2400) with extras (cost rm600) like:
- 4GB RAM upgrade
- MS-Office Home
- wireless keyboard/mouse
- Wireless router (to replace UNIFI router)
- wireless headphone with mic

Can I claim a relief of rm2400 or rm3000?
Or only some of the extras can claim the relief.
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it would RM2400 as tax relief...
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Bought a running shoes from Nike today while they have clearance around RM300, biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 29 2011, 09:26 PM)
it would RM2400 as tax relief...
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At least the software, 4GB upgrade and the mouse can be included for the tax relief. Or may be the accessories should be package in as free items then they be included for the relief?


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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 29 2011, 09:50 PM)
Bought a running shoes from Nike today while they have clearance around RM300, biggrin.gif
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I thought shoes dont qualify for tax relief under sports equipment.

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Dec 28 2011, 03:07 PM)
@ronnie
Thanks, now I had to wait next year to do 3k purchase, LOL.

Upgrading parts(e.g. processor, graphic card, motherboard) can be claimed right? As long as it goes into a "Complete Computer"
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Bought a running shoes from Nike today while they have clearance around RM300, biggrin.gif
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BUT you can't claim as Sports Equipment Tax Relief

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I have just started working last year July, so far i haven't report or register for tax paying. When do i need to start paying tax? When to report out? some told me its early this year and do i have to pay starting from the date i start working?
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Did prepaid broadband can get tax exemptions??
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QUOTE(hitsugaya2010 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:20 PM)
I have just started working last year July, so far i haven't report or register for tax paying. When do i need to start paying tax? When to report out? some told me its early this year and do i have to pay starting from the date i start working?
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you need to open a file with IRB (usually your company HR will do it for you) then you will be given a file number then you need to declare your income for YA2011 and compute whether you need to pay income tax or not. Your company will issue you the EA form which shows your total income, bonus allowance, EPF contributions etc. Just fill the tax returns with the info on your EA form and submit by 30/4/12 for YA2011

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BUT you can't claim as Sports Equipment Tax Relief
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But I was told I'm able to. Need to double check then.
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Did prepaid broadband can get tax exemptions??
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But I was told I'm able to. Need to double check then.
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Sports equipment and its consumable.

Sports attire are not eligible but it's very grey area such as shoes for running or jogging.

I remembered that there's a list of qualified "sports".
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Ok, can't find my previous post, maybe get nuked. Repost again.

Refer Explanatory Notes BE 2008.pdf
Attached File  Explanatory_Notes_BE_2008.pdf ( 185.34k ) Number of downloads: 39

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D8C PURCHASE OF SPORTS
EQUIPMENT

An amount limited to a maximum of RM300 is deductible in respect of expenses expended
by the individual for the purchase of sports equipment for any sports activity as defined
under the Sports Development Act 1997. Sports equipment includes equipment with short
lifespan e.g. golf balls and shuttlecocks but excluding sports attire, e.g. swimsuits and
sports shoes.


So, what does Sports Development Act 1997 covers ? Refer Act 576.pdf (page 23) First Schedule (section 2)
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Jan 5 2012, 03:57 PM)
you need to open a file with IRB (usually your company HR will do it for you) then you will be given a file number then you need to declare your income for YA2011 and compute whether you need to pay income tax or not. Your company will issue you the EA form which shows your total income, bonus allowance, EPF contributions etc. Just fill the tax returns with the info on your EA form and submit by 30/4/12 for YA2011
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hey thanks..maybe i should ask my HR and see
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Hi, would like to ask few questions:

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1

No. 20 - Life insurance dan EPF - 6000 (limited)
Meaning it is the total amount of life insurance I buy for the year, plus total EPF both me and my employer contributed?


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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jan 7 2012, 10:10 AM)
Hi, would like to ask few questions:

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1

No. 20 - Life insurance dan EPF - 6000 (limited)
Meaning it is the total amount of life insurance I buy for the year, plus total EPF both me and my employer contributed?
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Employee's EPF contribution + Life Insurance premium
excludes Employer's EPF contribution
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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jan 7 2012, 10:10 AM)
Hi, would like to ask few questions:

http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1

No. 20 - Life insurance dan EPF - 6000 (limited)
Meaning it is the total amount of life insurance I buy for the year, plus total EPF both me and my employer contributed?
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Not exactly , its life insurance and your EPF contribution NOT INCUDING the employer's portion
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Noted. Thanks a lot!
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Hello to all,

I have few questions to ask:

a) Previously, I worked for company A and deduct tax through PCB but i leave the company after 8 months. Do can reclaim back from the company A and claim from LHDN.

Thanks for the help.


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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Jan 9 2012, 01:58 PM)
Hello to all,

I have few questions to ask:

a) Previously, I worked for company A and deduct tax through PCB but  i leave the company after 8 months. Do can reclaim back from the company A and claim from LHDN.

Thanks for the help.
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You can only claim it from LHDN. Another hassle for you is that you got to go back to the company to request the EA form (for the duration of your work).

And if you work with a new company, that means, when filing your income tax, you'll use 2 EA forms.. ie: first ea form is statement for your first 8 months of your income with old company. And another EA form will contain the rest of 4 months statement of your income with the new company.
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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 9 2012, 02:21 PM)
You can only claim it from LHDN.  Another hassle for you is that you got to go back to the company to request the EA form  (for the duration of your work).

And if you work with a new company, that means, when filing your income tax, you'll use 2 EA forms.. ie: first ea form is statement for your first 8 months of your income with old company. And another EA form will contain the rest of 4 months statement of your income with the new company.
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hey guys, i got an issue that i need help with:

i got a letter from LHDN asking me to provide salinan asal of some documents and all that. this came from the kg. attap branch.

i got 2 problems:
1. the phone number provided in the letterhead i.e. 03-22633600 doesn't seem to have anyone answering it. does anyone have another number where a human will pick up the line?

2. they said that i have to produce proof of those documents within 30 days of the letter. the problem is, the letter is dated 21 Oct, but the letter was posted 29 Nov!!! Even by the time I got the letter, it was already past the due date. anyone gone through this issue before?

will appreciate all help. thanks!
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QUOTE(zeese @ Jan 9 2012, 02:21 PM)
You can only claim it from LHDN.  Another hassle for you is that you got to go back to the company to request the EA form  (for the duration of your work).

And if you work with a new company, that means, when filing your income tax, you'll use 2 EA forms.. ie: first ea form is statement for your first 8 months of your income with old company. And another EA form will contain the rest of 4 months statement of your income with the new company.
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It is not logic to claim from LHDN since the company A is not submitted the tax (PCB) to LHDN.

Please advice.

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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Jan 9 2012, 01:58 PM)
Hello to all,

I have few questions to ask:

a) Previously, I worked for company A and deduct tax through PCB but  i leave the company after 8 months. Do can reclaim back from the company A and claim from LHDN.

Thanks for the help.
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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Jan 10 2012, 10:46 AM)
It is not logic to claim from LHDN since the company A is not submitted the tax (PCB) to LHDN.

Please advice.
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Bro - if yr statement is true, then the statement below is true?
Company A deducted PCB from yr salary but didnt pay to LHDN

If so, i think U better call LHDN and bring proof (salary slips with deduction), then get LHDN to check their system whether Company A paid LHDN the deduction yet (assuming several donkey months ago deducted from your salary slip ok?).
I think LHDN will then have a case against Company A.

Just based on past experience where chinaman company deducted from my salary but didnt pay to LHDN and EPF. Other bro & sis, please correct me if i'm in lalaland. Danke

Side note - i've also had 2 EA forms (2 companies) within 1 tax year, no issue. Just make sure the above is cleared-up, especially if Company A refuses to give U your EA form (assuming again, 2011's EA form by Feb/Mar 2012).

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It is not logic to claim from LHDN since the company A is not submitted the tax (PCB) to LHDN.

Please advice.
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as wongmunkeong mentioned, if ur old company has deducted you salary into PCB but the company didn't
actually pay it to lhdn, you can start looking for a lawyer's forum and open a thread there smile.gif

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Usually after a company paid the income tax collected from employees to IRB there will be a reference number which the company will compile for the whole year and will pass to all employees together with the EA form. If the company did not make the payment then you have to go after the company and report to IRB about it
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Education fees (self):
(i)  peringkat selain Sarjana dan Doktor Falsafah-bidang undang-undang, perakaunan, kewangan Islam, teknikal, vokasional, industri, saintifik atau teknologi maklumat
other than a degree at Masters or Doctorate level-for acquiring law, accounting,
Islamic financing, technical, vocational, industrial, scientific or technological skills or qualifications

Does CFA included?

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Life Insurance vs Medical Insurance

I have Endowment, Personal Accident and Medical Card, how do I categorized them?

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Personal Relief RM 9,000

What is the criteria for this?

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Does CFA included?

Nope


I have Endowment, Personal Accident and Medical Card, how do I categorized them?

Endowment = Life insurance

P A = not deductable

Medical card = medical insurance.



What is the criteria for this?

Personal relief = Automatically given

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Good morning everybody,I been reading the thread from page 1 until here.

I just got some question in my mind now. sad.gif , Appreciate it if anyone could assist me. sad.gif

Right now I working with 1 company and my basic salary is RM 2,200 and fixed allowance is RM 400 = RM 2,600. I am paying EPF and socso for this company A. Then got a company B I been working as part time as a favor by helping them,they giving me a random salary every month, like November giving me RM 1,000,then December RM 1,400,then January RM 2,000. So sometimes this company B paying the salary to me is not fixed and this company I didn't contribute EPF and socso as I only part time.

Then salary became like this ..

November 2011 : RM 2,600 + RM 1,000 = RM 3,600
December 2011 : RM 2,600 + RM 1,400 = RM 4,000
January 2012 : RM 2,600 + RM 2,000 = RM 4,600

I think the figure sure reach around RM 3,500 every month, now I afraid sweat.gif

So right now do I need to declare income tax or what rclxub.gif. FYI I don't have EA form with me because I been keep on changing job for better pay and allowance.

Anybody can tell me what to do ? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Jan 19 2012, 10:22 AM)
Good morning everybody,I been reading the thread from page 1 until here.

I just got some question in my mind now. sad.gif , Appreciate it if anyone could assist me. sad.gif

Right now I working with 1 company and my basic salary is RM 2,200 and fixed allowance is RM 400 = RM 2,600. I am paying EPF and socso for this company A. Then got a company B I been working as part time as a favor by helping them,they giving me a random salary every month, like November giving me RM 1,000,then December RM 1,400,then January RM 2,000. So sometimes this company B paying the salary to me is not fixed and this company I didn't contribute EPF and socso as I only part time.

Then salary became like this ..

November 2011 : RM 2,600 + RM 1,000 = RM 3,600
December 2011 : RM 2,600 + RM 1,400 = RM 4,000
January 2012 : RM 2,600 + RM 2,000 = RM 4,600

I think the figure sure reach around RM 3,500 every month, now I afraid  sweat.gif

So right now do I need to declare income tax or what  rclxub.gif. FYI I don't have EA form with me because I been keep on changing job for better pay and allowance.

Anybody can tell me what to do ?  notworthy.gif
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Although you change job often, need not worry, all employers are required to prepare the EA form to all its employees so for 2010 say you work for Co A full time and doing part time for Co B, you should be geting 2 EA forms from both Co A and Co B for 2010,if you have not got them ask from HR of both Co A and Co B for the EA form,then during submission of your income tax return in April 2012 just total up the annual income for both Co A and Co B.

I assume you have not open an income tax file with IRB, so you need to open your income tax file, usually your company HR will do it for you, just ask them to do it if not you have to go to IRB to open a file. No matter how big or small your income you still need to open an income tax file and declare your income. So check with your HR/IRB whether your income tax file is opened and you will be getting an income tax file reference number.
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Jan 19 2012, 10:38 AM)
Although you change job often, need not worry, all employers are required to prepare the EA form to all its employees so for 2010 say you work for Co A full time and doing part time for Co B, you should be geting 2 EA forms from both Co A and Co B for 2010,if you have not got them ask from HR of both Co A and Co B for the EA form,then during submission of your income tax return in April 2012 just total up the annual income for both Co A and Co B.

I assume you have not open an income tax file with IRB, so you need to open your income tax file, usually your company HR will do it for you, just ask them to do it if not you have to go to IRB to open a file. No matter how big or small your income you still need to open an income tax file and declare your income. So check with your HR/IRB whether your income tax file is opened and you will be getting an income tax file reference number.
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Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me doh.gif

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?
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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Jan 19 2012, 11:02 AM)
Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me doh.gif

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?
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Co A will not know your side income they just submit your application to open the file only. It save you the hassle to go personally to open the file.
As for Co B part time, I am sure they have black and white when they pay you, if yes use that as your income proof, if not you don't declare that part time income (biut not recommended), and just compile Co A and Co C total income for 2011.
As indicated earlier, whether income reach limit or not can still open file one because sooner or later still will reach mah.
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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Jan 19 2012, 11:02 AM)
Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me doh.gif

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?
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1) Company B didn't deduct EPF and Socso from u, meaning that this income is "illegal"
2) So, obviously Company B can't give u EA.
3) So u need to declare Company A and Company C income if u total income is over RM2500 (my advise) to IRB.


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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jan 19 2012, 01:53 PM)
1) Company B didn't deduct EPF and Socso from u, meaning that this income is "illegal"
2) So, obviously Company B can't give u EA.
3) So u need to declare Company A and Company C income if u total income is over RM2500 (my advise) to IRB.
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1) totally disagree, eg,if you do part time unit trust consultant, mana ada deduct EPF or Socso, they still provide you with commission statement so you still have to declare
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Jan 19 2012, 02:28 PM)
1) totally disagree, eg,if you do part time unit trust consultant, mana ada deduct EPF or Socso, they still provide you with commission statement so you still have to declare
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Then WhiteWing need to say clearly what is his part-time job, this will clear all the doubt.
No need to agree or disagree this and that and guess what is his part-time job.
See the word "SALARY" written by WhiteWing below. Look carefully before make any comment.

Wonder u react in such a weird way? hmm.gif


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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Jan 19 2012, 10:22 AM)
Good morning everybody,I been reading the thread from page 1 until here.

I just got some question in my mind now. sad.gif , Appreciate it if anyone could assist me. sad.gif

Right now I working with 1 company and my basic salary is RM 2,200 and fixed allowance is RM 400 = RM 2,600. I am paying EPF and socso for this company A. Then got a company B I been working as part time as a favor by helping them,they giving me a random salary every month, like November giving me RM 1,000,then December RM 1,400,then January RM 2,000. So sometimes this company B paying the salary to me is not fixed and this company I didn't contribute EPF and socso as I only part time.

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Then WhiteWing need to say clearly what is his part-time job, this will clear all the doubt.
No need to agree or disagree this and that and guess what is his part-time job.
See the word "SALARY" written by WhiteWing below. Look carefully before make any comment.

Wonder u react in such a weird way? hmm.gif


Added on January 19, 2012, 2:55 pm
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You are the one who is acting weird, as the part time income is not fixed its not called salary its called wages and its not illegal. you still have to declare all income earned, we are just trying to give an opinion and so arguments like this is normal to get everyone know.
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You are the one who is acting weird, as the part time income is not fixed its not called salary its called wages and its not illegal. you still have to declare all income earned, we are just trying to give an opinion and so arguments like this is normal to get everyone know.
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Why just now u said it maybe commission and now turn the word to salary/wages?

Either salary or wages, it is required to contribute EPF and Socso by law.

Since u like to argue with me, then u need to give the reason why Company B didn't contribute EPF and Sosco for him? smile.gif

If Company B can't give u EA, how can u declare to IRB?


QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Jan 19 2012, 11:02 AM)
Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me doh.gif

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?
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Why just now u said it maybe commission and now turn the word to salary/wages?

Either salary or wages, it is required to contribute EPF and Socso by law.

Since u like to argue with me, then u need to give the reason why Company B didn't contribute EPF and Sosco for him? smile.gif
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its because we don't know that's why i say maybe and read further his part time pay is not fixed and yes it is by law part timers needs to contribute to EPF and Socso if he contributes 30% to 70% of his normal fulltime job time to his part time job
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?sec=n.../20100818160440
all these are not known, maybe he work only just for few hours and the onus is on Co B to deduct EPF and Socso, and since he is getting paid (and pls be informed that payslip is given to him) he needs to declare his part time income also.
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its because we don't know that's why i say maybe and read further his part time pay is not fixed and yes it is by law part timers needs to contribute to EPF and Socso if he contributes 30% to 70% of his normal fulltime job time to his part time job
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?sec=n.../20100818160440
all these are not known, maybe he work only just for few hours and the onus is on Co B to deduct EPF and Socso, and since he is getting paid (and pls be informed that payslip is given to him) he needs to declare his part time income also.
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All these presumption are assumed, thus no point to discuss further until whitewing makes clarificaton.


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QUOTE(firee818 @ Jan 19 2012, 02:51 PM)
Then WhiteWing need to say clearly what is his part-time job, this will clear all the doubt.
No need to agree or disagree this and that and guess what is his part-time job.
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All these presumption are assumed, thus no point to discuss further until whitewing makes clarificaton.
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firee818,I don't know how to say. My job scope in company B is like this :-
I work with them,meet customer. If I able to close the deal,they share with me some of the profit of the deal I closed. That why can see inside the payslip,every month amount is different. This is the reason why they say cannot give me EPF and socso contribution.
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firee818,I don't know how to say. My job scope in company B is like this :-
I work with them,meet customer. If I able to close the deal,they share with me some of the profit of the deal I closed. That why can see inside the payslip,every month amount is different. This is the reason why they say cannot give me EPF and socso contribution.
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In determine the legality of your Company B income, you need to identify whether there is
any employment contract or any sort of contract between you and the company stating that you are:-

1). Employee of the company.
2). Independent contractor/contractor/agent of the company

If you are under No.(1), then you may entitle to EPF and Socso contribution (subject to the part-time rule).
If you are under No.(2), then you are not entitle to EPF and Socso contribution.

If u do not have any employment contract between u and the company, then your income will be classified under "grey area".

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A problem guyss,

i have just started working in the real world and realised my company has not deducted any pcb for me. I don;t even know if i have a account with income tax.

Do i need to register myself with LHDN or will HR do everything for me? When are the taxes due, i started working in august, so that means this august i'll need to submit my taxes?

Do i register online EDAFTAR and give the income tax number to HR so that they can start doing the PCB?

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can submit 2011 tax already?
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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Jan 21 2012, 11:17 PM)
A problem guyss,

i have just started working in the real world and realised my company has not deducted any pcb for me. I don;t even know if i have a account with income tax.

Do i need to register myself with LHDN or will HR do everything for me? When are the taxes due, i started working in august, so that means this august i'll need to submit my taxes?

Do i register online EDAFTAR and give the income tax number to HR so that they can start doing the PCB?
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How much is your monthly pay per month? if it exceed RM2,600 per month, this year onwards your pay will be deducted PCB

since u start work on August, and your total income from August to December does not exceed RM32,000, u did not need pay PCB. Don't worry about the tax file, your HR will do the job
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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Jan 21 2012, 11:17 PM)
A problem guyss,

i have just started working in the real world and realised my company has not deducted any pcb for me. I don;t even know if i have a account with income tax.

Do i need to register myself with LHDN or will HR do everything for me? When are the taxes due, i started working in august, so that means this august i'll need to submit my taxes?

Do i register online EDAFTAR and give the income tax number to HR so that they can start doing the PCB?
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Just check with your HR whether they have open the income tax file for you, if they have not ask them whether they will be doing so if not you will have to go to IRB to open one.

No worries you will know whether you need to pay tax when you do your YA2011 tax return in April 2012 due on 30/4/12
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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Jan 19 2012, 04:50 PM)
firee818,I don't know how to say. My job scope in company B is like this :-
I work with them,meet customer. If I able to close the deal,they share with me some of the profit of the deal I closed. That why can see inside the payslip,every month amount is different. This is the reason why they say cannot give me EPF and socso contribution.
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Here's my 2 cents

You do not need to declare those income that doesn't have EPF deduction. There's actually many such "income" that no people will go declare, just because they can save them self from taxes.
e.g. Selling in Lowyat Garage Sales is one good example. You help people from other state take order and go lowyat get best offer and you take profit from there. Such as profit are income also, but not classified as taxable income.

Income without EPF deduction are not audit-able as well. One reason you do not need to afraid if people say you run from tax. Without proper record, they can't sue you.

My 2cents la. If you want to self declare and help our doggie government, then go ahead lol.
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Here's my 2 cents

You do not need to declare those income that doesn't have EPF deduction. There's actually many such "income" that no people will go declare, just because they can save them self from taxes.
e.g. Selling in Lowyat Garage Sales is one good example. You help people from other state take order and go lowyat get best offer and you take profit from there. Such as profit are income also, but not classified as taxable income.

Income without EPF deduction are not audit-able as well. One reason you do not need to afraid if people say you run from tax. Without proper record, they can't sue you.

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Wrong advice. smile.gif

Those Garage sales income is also a taxable income.
Those income without EPF contribution also a taxable income, for eg. commission based deal etc.

There is no such thing of income without EPF deduction is not auditable, it can be traced if they really want to.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 27 2012, 01:18 AM)
Wrong advice.  smile.gif

Those Garage sales income is also a taxable income.
Those income without EPF contribution also a taxable income, for eg. commission based deal etc.

There is no such thing of income without EPF deduction is not auditable, it can be traced if they really want to.
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Hmm, ok. smile.gif

Mind to elaborate more? (The part of where "I buy and sell you get profit" income)
P/S : I'm not looking a leeway to run from tax. Trying to learn this.
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Mind to tell me more ? I not mean I want to run tax but I just want to find a proper way to adjust it.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 27 2012, 02:50 AM)
Hmm, ok. smile.gif

Mind to elaborate more? (The part of where "I buy and sell you get profit" income)
P/S : I'm not looking a leeway to run from tax. Trying to learn this.
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Buy and sell goods, like hardware or whatever, is considered a trading, and income/profit made is a taxable income.

But if buy and sell a house/investment, and make profit from it, is considered as capital gain, and capital gain is not a taxable income. But rental made through the house is a taxable income.
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Wrong advice.  smile.gif

Those Garage sales income is also a taxable income.
Those income without EPF contribution also a taxable income, for eg. commission based deal etc.

There is no such thing of income without EPF deduction is not auditable, it can be traced if they really want to.
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if just receive a comm like rm3k for a yr must also declare? how will they know/check?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jan 25 2012, 11:20 AM)
How much is your monthly pay per month? if it exceed RM2,600 per month, this year onwards your pay will be deducted PCB

since u start work on August, and your total income from August to December does not exceed RM32,000, u did not need pay PCB. Don't worry about the tax file, your HR will do the job
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Thank you sir for the clarification.

Aug to December >RM32000, that means i will need to pay PCB for that period right.

And just saw on my Jan payslip, there is a deduction for tax, so i think HR got it covered. But still i'll need to pay upcoming April if i understand everything right.


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if just receive a comm like rm3k for a yr  must also declare? how will they know/check?
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How they know or check?
The company pay you the commission have many trace of it, either from bank account transfer, cash payment voucher, accounting paper work, or even by testimonial, or just phone to the company, did your company pay xyz 3k commission at 20xx year? and many more.
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Ok, does that means verbally, or rather as long as they have statement of someone you deal with, are accepted as proof in audit?

Like this example

"I withdraw money from my bank, buy a speaker @ RM10 from XYZ shop(issue receipt). Then I sell it to consumer @ RM15 with cash term, yielding RM5 profit(no receipt given). RM15 was deposited back into the bank"

So a verbal/written testimonial from the consumer were able to track the profit?
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To declare tax or not for u "grey income", u have to determine the numbers (value) of the properties u may purchase in future and plan in advance.

Some income may be untraceable by IRB. If u don't declare that income, IRB may not know that u have that income. Thus, they will not suspect your income at the moment.

However, if u use this income to buy properties, then they may suspect your income. This let to tax audit.

If u want to be good citizen, then no one can stop u to declare all sorts of income including "grey income". U have to pay more tax and "contribute" to the country.

The problem arises in the inefficiency of the IRB.
It is proven that many people in this country are evading tax.
If u are legal SALARY earners, then u are listed at the bottom of the "tax hierachy(TM)", u can't evade any tax, u have to pay all the salary tax.

On the other hand, they are those businessmen/people in our country are evading tax.
Why?
It is due to the bad management of the IRB.
We have good tax laws but the enforcement is very bad.
If u want to do business in our country, then here is a right place u have chosen.
Many rich businessmen had been migrated to oversea, but their biz still in Malaysia.
U can see many folks drive their fancy car on the road and live in big bungalows.
Are u jealous?

U want to declare or not for all sorts of income including u "grey income" is really your choice!
Of course u have to take the risk for not declaring it!
No risk no money!

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QUOTE(Nepo @ Jan 28 2012, 09:06 AM)
To declare tax or not for u "grey income", u have to determine the numbers (value) of the properties u may purchase in future and plan in advance.

Some income may be untraceable by IRB. If u don't declare that income, IRB may not know that u have that income. Thus, they will not suspect your income at the moment.

However, if u use this income to buy properties, then they may suspect your income. This let to tax audit.

If u want to be good citizen, then no one can stop u to declare all sorts of income including "grey income". U have to pay more tax and "contribute" to the country.

The problem arises in the inefficiency of the IRB.
It is proven that many people in this country are evading tax.
If u are legal SALARY earners, then u are listed at the bottom of the "tax hierachy(TM)", u can't evade any tax, u have to pay all the salary tax.

On the other hand, they are those businessmen/people in our country are evading tax.
Why?
It is due to the bad management of the IRB.
We have good tax laws but the enforcement is very bad.
If u want to do business in our country, then here is a right place u have chosen.
Many rich businessmen had been migrated to oversea, but their biz still in Malaysia.
U can see many folks drive their fancy car on the road and live in big bungalows.
Are u jealous?

U want to declare or not for all sorts of  income including u "grey income" is really your choice!
Of course u have to take the risk for not declaring it!
No risk no money!
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^Ok, nice info! thumbup.gif
Now I start to understand why my father did asked me to file my tax asap I started work so that I can buy house easier.
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in my payslip theres an amount written as MEAL ALLOWANCE, it is not taxable right?
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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Jan 29 2012, 05:35 PM)
in my payslip theres an amount written as MEAL ALLOWANCE, it is not taxable right?
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Allowances, incentive, or whatever are counted into your gross income, unless there is income tax ruling stated otherwise that stated it is tax exempted,
if not any form of income you get, even non-cash like car given by company for you to drive/travel are considered as Benefit in kind (BIK), which also contributed into your gross taxable income.
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Allowances, incentive, or whatever are counted into your gross income, unless there is income tax ruling stated otherwise that stated it is tax exempted,
if not any form of income you get, even non-cash like car given by company for you to drive/travel are considered as Benefit in kind (BIK), which also contributed into your gross taxable income.
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Meal allowance provided to an employee for purposes such as
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in exercising his employment is chargeable to tax.


Thanks for the reply cherroy, just curious cos i saw this statement .
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when can i start to fill the e-filling?
I just got my EA form today. This gonna be my first time to fill it. I know I will need to pay it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Feb 1 2012, 11:07 AM)
when can i start to fill the e-filling?
I just got my EA form today. This gonna be my first time to fill it. I know I will need to pay it laugh.gif
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1st March 2012 I think.

Ends by 30 April 2012.
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1st March 2012 I think.

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e-filling will be easier to fill than manual.

Btw, thanks for all the info up there. So the bottomline is :

Any kind of cash, or non-cash you get are taxable income, unless there's tax ruling stating TAX-EXEMPTED.

*I remember reading somewhere people won cash prize, and there's a clause (tax-exempted).
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Buy and sell goods, like hardware or whatever, is considered a trading, and income/profit made is a taxable income.

But if buy and sell a house/investment, and make profit from it, is considered as capital gain, and capital gain is not a taxable income. But rental made through the house is a taxable income.
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Isn't the profit from the sale of property subjected to RPGT? hmm.gif
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Isn't the profit from the sale of property subjected to RPGT? hmm.gif
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Yes, if not more than 5 years, at current RPGT rules.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 29 2012, 05:42 PM)
Allowances, incentive, or whatever are counted into your gross income, unless there is income tax ruling stated otherwise that stated it is tax exempted,
if not any form of income you get, even non-cash like car given by company for you to drive/travel are considered as Benefit in kind (BIK), which also contributed into your gross taxable income.
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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Jan 29 2012, 05:58 PM)
Thanks for the reply cherroy, just curious cos i saw this statement .
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in my company EA form, there isn't allowance stated in the form, only basic gross salary + bonus. So do I need to declare the allowance by myself as well? sweat.gif


QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 1 2012, 02:47 PM)
Yes, if not more than 5 years, at current RPGT rules.
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Can I assume RPGT rules apply on residence properties??? and sometimes I could find there are ppl who could buy and sell the house property within short frame like 1 or 2 months without paying for RPGT...how they do that? doh.gif
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in my company EA form, there isn't allowance stated in the form, only basic gross salary + bonus. So do I need to declare the allowance by myself as well? sweat.gif

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Company EA should include all.
This is company mistake already and company can be fined if LHDN found out wrongly submitted the PCB and EA.
PCB is counted towards gross salary including allowances, so if the EA doesn't include the allowance, it cannot match with PCB deduction amount.

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1st March 2012 I think.

Ends by 30 April 2012.
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Feb 1 2012, 02:57 PM)
Can I assume RPGT rules apply on residence properties??? and sometimes I could find there are ppl who could buy and sell the house property within short frame like 1 or 2 months without paying for RPGT...how they do that? doh.gif
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Maybe you should ask those who sell w/o paying RPGT.
The 5 year period is calculated from the date of Sales & Purchase Agreement of the current owner.
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Would like to get feedback regard this tax exempt benefit:

(d) Leave passage for travel (confined only to the employee and members of his immediate family i.e. spouse and children):
- within Malaysia not exceeding three times in any calendar year (cost of fares, meals and accommodation); or
- between Malaysia and any place outside Malaysia not exceeding one passage in any calendar year, is limited to a
maximum of RM3,000 (only cost of fares);

Read from a book that if our company does not provide this benefit, we can suggest to the company to replace guranteed bonus with this to reduce paying tax. If the company agreed how do we go about it?
Do we need to submit receipts when claiming from the company?
Does cost of fare include taxi, car rental, boat, cruise during the trip?
Only meals with receipt can claim?

Thanks in advance.
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Would like to get feedback regard this tax exempt benefit:

(d) Leave passage for travel (confined only to the employee and members of his immediate family i.e. spouse and children):
- within Malaysia not exceeding three times in any calendar year (cost of fares, meals and accommodation); or
- between Malaysia and any place outside Malaysia not exceeding one passage in any calendar year, is limited to a
maximum of RM3,000 (only cost of fares);

Read from a book that if our company does not provide this benefit, we can suggest to the company to replace guranteed bonus with this to reduce paying tax. If the company agreed how do we go about it?
Do we need to submit receipts when claiming from the company?
Does cost of fare include taxi, car rental, boat, cruise during the trip?
Only meals with receipt can  claim?

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what other tax relief that we are able to cushion of total income tax beside books, sports equipment and computers.

i want to ask if i purchase some dumb bells, weight plates and normal gears, is it possible to submit them in one receipt and get the tax relief under as sports equipment? when it meant sports equipment, can it be a medicine ball or kettle bell any light weight equipment for gym or those threadmill or weight stations?


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in my company EA form, there isn't allowance stated in the form, only basic gross salary + bonus. So do I need to declare the allowance by myself as well? sweat.gif
Can I assume RPGT rules apply on residence properties??? and sometimes I could find there are ppl who could buy and sell the house property within short frame like 1 or 2 months without paying for RPGT...how they do that? doh.gif
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RPGT applies on all REAL PROPERTY including the shares in a Sdn Bhd that is deemed Real Property Company.
If you buy a property that has been owned by the vendor for more than 5 years, no RPGT need to be withheld.


Added on February 7, 2012, 2:26 pmiPad qualifies as Computer for tax relief. Confirmed by IRB officer.
But not Galaxy Tab 7.

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QUOTE(AskChong @ Feb 7 2012, 02:24 PM)
Ask your HR to revise the EA else inform your boss HR don't know how to comply with ITA 1967.
RPGT applies on all REAL PROPERTY including the shares in a Sdn Bhd that is deemed Real Property Company.
If you buy a property that has been owned by the vendor for more than 5 years, no RPGT need to be withheld.


Added on February 7, 2012, 2:26 pmiPad qualifies as Computer for tax relief. Confirmed by IRB officer.
But not Galaxy Tab 7.
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iPad with 3G or iPad with non-3G?

This question is still a gray distinction.
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iPad with 3G or iPad with non-3G?

This question is still a gray distinction.
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Hello to all,

I have a question here.

I worked for company A from August 2010 to March 2011. In April 2011, i did not file any income tax but my company A has deduct the PCB.

My income has not reach Rm 25000 pa. Can i still get back my PCB deducted?

Then, i stop for working until then i worked for company B from August 2011 to current. My income has not reach RM 25000 PA for this period.

Do i need to file tax for this year?

Thanks.


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QUOTE(Peter_APIIT @ Feb 10 2012, 01:59 AM)
Hello to all,

I have a question here.

I worked for company A from August 2010 to March 2011. In April 2011, i did not file any income tax but my company A has deduct the PCB.

My income has not reach Rm 25000 pa. Can i still get back my PCB deducted?

Then, i stop for working until then i worked for company B from August 2011 to current. My income has not reach RM 25000 PA for this period.

Do i need to file tax for this year?

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Since Company A had deducted PCB and submitted to IRB, meaning that you have tax file number.
Therefore, you need to declare your income every year to IRB even though you have no income at all for that particular year.
If u have tax file number but you didn't submit your Borong B/BE, IRB will penalize you.
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If u have tax file number but you didn't submit your Borong B/BE, IRB will penalize you.

Since my income for that year has not reach target income, still need to declare to them.
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I have a question regarding parent's medical bill. Have anyone submitted parent's pharmacy (like medicine purchased from Guardian/leading pharmacies) receipts for tax relief?

Anyone?
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I have a question regarding parent's medical bill. Have anyone submitted parent's pharmacy (like medicine purchased from Guardian/leading pharmacies) receipts for tax relief?

Anyone?
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I only use receipts from hospitals including KLGH.
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Hi, forumers.
Want to ask that is it whether I need to register myself as a tax payer only i can pay tax or once i got a company i would automatically need to pay tax?
This because I've just established a sole proprietor last year february and it is going to 1 year already.
I want to pay some tax so that its easier if i apply for any loan in future.
But i dont know anything and what is the first step i should do.
I do keep all my receipt for the whole year.
But i didnt register myself as a tax payer yet.
So, can i still pay tax for this upcoming terms?

Thanks. rclxms.gif
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Hi. Got a couple of questions to ask here regarding my taxes for last yr. i was working at company A for 8 months of questions2011, then joined company B for the rest of the year. while in my previous company they regularly deducted my tax monthly. After joining the new place, i did not have any deductions in 2011. Now i'd like to know the following

a) from whom do.i get my ea form for last year, company A or B. Or both ?


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QUOTE(joe_star @ Feb 13 2012, 02:31 AM)
Hi. Got a couple of questions to ask here regarding my taxes for last yr. i was working at company A for 8 months of questions2011, then joined company B for the rest of the year. while in my previous company they regularly deducted my tax monthly. After joining the new place, i did not have any deductions in 2011. Now i'd like to know the following

a) from whom do.i get my ea form for last year, company A or B. Or both ?
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Feb 12 2012, 12:20 AM)
I have a question regarding parent's medical bill. Have anyone submitted parent's pharmacy (like medicine purchased from Guardian/leading pharmacies) receipts for tax relief?

Anyone?
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I have submitted in the past, parent's pharmacy bills (from pharmacy inside hospital, as well as prescription medication from non-hospital pharmacies).
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I have submitted in the past, parent's pharmacy bills (from pharmacy inside hospital, as well as prescription medication from non-hospital pharmacies).
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QUOTE(Tavia88 @ Feb 12 2012, 10:53 PM)
Hi, forumers.
Want to ask that is it whether I need to register myself as a tax payer only i can pay tax or once i got a company i would automatically need to pay tax?
This because I've just established a sole proprietor last year february and it is going to 1 year already.
I want to pay some tax so that its easier if i apply for any loan in future.
But i dont know anything and what is the first step i should do.
I do keep all my receipt for the whole year.
But i didnt register myself as a tax payer yet.
So, can i still pay tax for this upcoming terms?

Thanks. rclxms.gif
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For Tax purposes you need to declare your income for YA2011. Since your company was established in Feb 2011, you need to declare your income from Feb11 till Dec 11. If you have not open an income tax file, you may open at any of the IRB. As you have business income, your tax (if any ) will be due on 30/6/12 instead of the normal working employees who need to pay tax by 30/4/12.

You need to compute your income less any deductibles(Fe 11 to Dec 11) to determine whether you will be taxed or not
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Hi all, I just started work last year and my job tenure hasn't reached 1 year yet. Do I still need to report for income tax as well? My annual income is not more than the stipulated taxable annual income.

Anyone mind telling me the procedures here? Thanks!
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 13 2012, 10:56 AM)
Hi all, I just started work last year and my job tenure hasn't reached 1 year yet. Do I still need to report for income tax as well? My annual income is not more than the stipulated taxable annual income.

Anyone mind telling me the procedures here? Thanks!
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Do you have PCB deduction listed in your salary slip.
IF none, then you do not need to open Income Tax file just yet
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Do you have PCB deduction listed in your salary slip.
IF none, then you do not need to open Income Tax file just yet
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nope. I got nothing deducted yet for income tax. meaning to say I dont have to file income tax now? altho im earning salary already?

thx!

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Feb 13 2012, 11:50 AM)
nope. I got nothing deducted yet for income tax. meaning to say I dont have to file income tax now? altho im earning salary already?

thx!

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Altho u have not work for complete yr you still need to declare your income for YA2011(jan11 to dec11)
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Feb 13 2012, 03:24 PM)
Just find out from your HR to see if they have open an income tax file for you. If not you have to ask them to do so or u just to to IRB to get it done.
Altho u have not work for complete yr you still need to declare your income for YA2011(jan11 to dec11)
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oh ok. thx!! but shyt...now is already feb, will i get penalty if i declare now? altho my income is not taxable yet.
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oh ok. thx!! but shyt...now is already feb, will i get penalty if i declare now? altho my income is not taxable yet.
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If have side-business, then submission end-June.

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oh ok. thx!! but shyt...now is already feb, will i get penalty if i declare now? altho my income is not taxable yet.
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Does anyone remember/know when does e-filing opens up for the current year?

Especially for form Borang E (non-individual) which is due end of march.

If not then I'll have to go LHDN to submit. aihh. yawn.gif
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Does anyone remember/know when does e-filing opens up for the current year?

Especially for form Borang E (non-individual) which is due end of march.

If not then I'll have to go LHDN to submit. aihh.  yawn.gif
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will open in march and due end of april not march
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I have submitted in the past, parent's pharmacy bills (from pharmacy inside hospital, as well as prescription medication from non-hospital pharmacies).
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Thanks Traveler. Not only I heard about medical bills, but also nutritious food like bird's nest can be submitted for claims as well - basically anything related to parents. Anyone can correct me, do let me know.
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Thanks Traveler. Not only I heard about medical bills, but also nutritious food like bird's nest can be submitted for claims as well - basically anything related to parents. Anyone can correct me, do let me know.
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Are you about supplement, nutritious and health products can be claimed? I thought purely medication, prescription, surgery and consultation are eligible for claim.
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Feb 14 2012, 07:31 AM)
Thanks Traveler. Not only I heard about medical bills, but also nutritious food like bird's nest can be submitted for claims as well - basically anything related to parents. Anyone can correct me, do let me know.
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Look up here for references :-

http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/BE2010_Guidebook_2.pdf

http://hasil.community.com.my/general-dedu...nt-individuals/

http://www.hasil.org.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1

Although it's 2010 but I don;t think there were major changes for 2011
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Today i clearly paid my tax for 2009 and 2010...RM25++..just because i wanna buy shop lot
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So prescription. If doc prescribe vit c/ glucosamine etc for a medical condition, and these items are available OTC, is it claimable?

Obviously doc will charge higher price for similar or sometimes lower dosage items. So for follow up consumption, we buy from pharmacy.
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So prescription. If doc prescribe vit c/ glucosamine etc for a medical condition, and these items are available OTC, is it claimable?

Obviously doc will charge higher price for similar or sometimes lower dosage items. So for follow up consumption, we buy from pharmacy.
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glucosamine is very common, herbal not
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I just received CP500 from LHDN today. Inside they aggregate the same amount as last year for 2012 tax. They separate it into 6 installments for me to pay.

Question is can I pay together at one lump sum? Since for example the tax they aggregated is RM 2,500 so if my tax for this year is RM 2,750 so I would have to pay RM 250 more at the end of this year? hmm.gif
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Hi There

for PC tax relief of 3k, say in 2011 i bought a cpu for rm1500 and instead of having a pc monitor, i've plugged in my pc to my tv set which i use as my monitor.

is my tv set deductivle as well if i bought it for rm1000?
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Hi There

for PC tax relief of 3k, say in 2011 i bought a cpu for rm1500 and instead of having a pc monitor, i've plugged in my pc to my tv set which i use as my monitor.

is my tv set deductivle as well if i bought it for rm1000?
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QUOTE(Icehart @ Feb 17 2012, 11:28 AM)
I just received CP500 from LHDN today. Inside they aggregate the same amount as last year for 2012 tax. They separate it into 6 installments for me to pay.

Question is can I pay together at one lump sum? Since for example the tax they aggregated is RM 2,500 so if my tax for this year is RM 2,750 so I would have to pay RM 250 more at the end of this year?  hmm.gif
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Is it mean that u pay RM2500 in one go in the 1st instalment of YA 2012?

e.g.

Feb 2012 RM416-----> pay in one go RM2500
Apr 2012 RM416
Jun 2012 RM416
Aug 2012 RM416
Oct 2012 RM 416
Dec 2012 RM 420
Total RM2500

If it is, yes, you can and supplement with a letter forward to IRB to inform them u payment mode.
Remember that u have to pay the installment before the due date.
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Just got my EA form, first time doing this, so we just use whatever its on the EA form and minus minus and submit right??

When will BE 2011 be out>?



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QUOTE(db07mufan @ Feb 19 2012, 11:11 AM)
Just got my EA form, first time doing this, so we just use whatever its on the EA form and minus minus and submit right??

When will BE 2011 be out>?
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e-BE 2011 will commence by 1st March 2012 and due on 30th April 2012.
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Anyone done e-filing before?

This is my 1st time.
I'm wondering why the login button is greyed out.

How to do taxes if like that?

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I'm wondering why the login button is greyed out.

How to do taxes if like that?

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QUOTE(firee818 @ Feb 18 2012, 08:13 AM)
Is it mean that u pay RM2500 in one go in the 1st instalment of YA 2012?

e.g.

Feb 2012 RM416-----> pay in one go RM2500
Apr 2012 RM416
Jun 2012 RM416
Aug 2012 RM416
Oct 2012 RM 416
Dec 2012 RM 420
    Total  RM2500

If it is, yes, you can and supplement  with a letter forward to IRB to inform them u payment mode.
Remember that u have to pay the installment before the due date.
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Wow 2012 just begin they start asking for 2012 money already sweat.gif
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hi guys, im newbie in all these tax thing, can u guys help me with some question?

I do a freelance online job, salary not fix, last month 1.5k, this month 2.6k
i transfer my money from my account on freelance market site to my paypal, then from paypal to my bank.

so my question is, do i need to do anything? since it's over 2.5k this month, and how does it work, if i only transfer 2.4k to bank instead of 2.6, will i stil have to pay tax? Do i need to do anything right now? like delacre ? file anything ?


Thanks a lot.

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QUOTE(terrance511 @ Feb 21 2012, 03:46 PM)
hi guys, im newbie in all these tax thing, can u guys help me with some question?

I do a freelance online job, salary not fix, last month 1.5k, this month 2.6k
i transfer my money from my account on freelance market site to my paypal, then from paypal to my bank.

so my question is, do i need to do anything? since it's over 2.5k this month, and how does it work, if i only transfer 2.4k to bank instead of 2.6, will i stil have to pay tax? Do i need to do anything right now? like delacre ? file anything ?
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Need to open an income tax file first, any supporting when you are paid?
Just accumulate the whole of 2011 income for declaration, compute then see if taxable or not, if taxable then pay tax by banking into IRB bank given. If not taxable just submit only
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Feb 21 2012, 04:15 PM)
Need to open an income tax file first, any supporting when you are paid?
Just accumulate the whole of 2011 income for declaration, compute then see if taxable or not, if taxable then pay tax by banking into IRB bank given. If not taxable just submit only
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supporting u mean document? no any file can show my payment from freelance job la..
conclusion i need to file something, and the tax is base on anuum 1 ? 30k ?
i start earning since last year october 2011, when do i need to do all these.
thanks a lot smile.gif
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QUOTE(terrance511 @ Feb 21 2012, 04:29 PM)
supporting u mean document? no any file can show my payment from freelance job la..
conclusion i need to file something, and the tax is base on anuum 1 ? 30k ?
i start earning since last year october 2011, when do i need to do all these.
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maybe you can print out the remitance advice when you recieve your pay. since you only started in oct 2011 so you need to compute from oct 11 to dec 11.

First and foremost you need to go to IRB to get your file open then only you can declare your income for income tax. you only need to do once a year so all income will be accumulated for the calender year.
You can go to any of the IRB office anytime now to get the file open
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Feb 21 2012, 04:35 PM)
maybe you can print out the remitance advice when you recieve your pay. since you only started in oct 2011 so you need to compute from oct 11 to dec 11.

First and foremost you need to go to IRB to get your file open then only you can declare your income for income tax. you only need to do once a year so all income will be accumulated for the calender year.
You can go to any of the IRB office anytime now to get the file open
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erm, don't have remitance advice.. its a micro job thing, less than Rm20 per task ... really don't have statement at all ... when transfer money to my paypal, only got 1 confirmation email... How?
thanks again

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QUOTE(terrance511 @ Feb 21 2012, 04:47 PM)
erm, don't have remitance advice..  its a micro job thing, less than Rm20 per task ... really don't have statement at all ... when transfer money to my paypal, only got 1 confirmation email... How?
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then keep your emails that indicate yr income in case IRB wants to look for proof of income
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then keep your emails that indicate yr income in case IRB wants to look for proof of income
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ok thanks,

my friend say can ignore bout that 2011 3 months 1 since it only average 1.2k, then i just have to wait till 2013 before march then submit 2012 income info. Is that ok ?
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QUOTE(terrance511 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:15 PM)
ok thanks,

my friend say can ignore bout that 2011 3 months 1 since it only average 1.2k, then i just have to wait till 2013 before march then submit 2012 income info. Is that ok ?
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yes. but in the meantime just get your income tax file opened
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yes. but in the meantime just get your income tax file opened
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can i just wait till 2013 then sekaligus done all that ? haha
thanks a lot really
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QUOTE(terrance511 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:53 PM)
can i just wait till 2013 then sekaligus done all that ? haha
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Yes you can but why wait till last minute when you can do it now and familiarise yourself on how to compute your tax
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hi all,

I'm feel that the pelepasan cukai for individual is very little..it just RM 9000 which is RM 750 per month.
Some more, the housing (which not bought on year 2010) & car installment can get rebate not? These more burden for us now...
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QUOTE(EVON4477 @ Feb 25 2012, 10:58 AM)
hi all,

I'm feel that the pelepasan cukai for individual is very little..it just RM 9000 which is RM 750 per month.
Some more, the housing (which not bought on year 2010) & car installment can get rebate not? These more burden for us now...
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For property yes and you must have a valid S&P.

For car, definitely a big NO.
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Hi, im new in tax things. wat should i do for 1st time summit & open file for income tax? do i need to summit everything at any LHDN branch or i can do it by registration online?
actually i oready start working few year back since 2007 until now with few different company but my salary not more tat RM2500/month. will they chase back or ask my past income information? thx & highly appreciate for advice.

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Can someone explain to me how does the rm6000 tax relief for EPF works?
I pay rm7500 in tax a year, do I get to deduct 15% (or whatever tax bracket i'm in) from the rm10k a year EPF that I pay?
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Feb 26 2012, 05:19 PM)
Can someone explain to me how does the rm6000 tax relief for EPF works?
I pay rm7500 in tax a year, do I get to deduct 15% (or whatever tax bracket i'm in) from the rm10k a year EPF that I pay?
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All tax relieves are deducted from the gross income in order to compute for chargeable (taxable) income.

Your taxable income will determine which tax bracket you'll fall into.
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Feb 26 2012, 05:19 PM)
Can someone explain to me how does the rm6000 tax relief for EPF works?
I pay rm7500 in tax a year, do I get to deduct 15% (or whatever tax bracket i'm in) from the rm10k a year EPF that I pay?
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Although your EPF contribution is more than 10K pa your income deductible relief is limited to RM6K only.
Let say your total income is RM100K you will deduct all income deductible reliefs to derive your taxable income then you find the tax band for your taxable income to derive your tax to be paid for the year then less any tax already paid through your monthly deductions and all your tax deductible reliefs to finally come to the amount of tax payable/overpaid tax
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Bear in mind that the RM 6k relief on the EPF is shared with life insurance too.

Max relief under that clause is still RM 6k.
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EPF is limited to 3k only, then insurance 3k, so total 6k
QUOTE(rayng18 @ Feb 26 2012, 08:26 PM)
Although your EPF contribution is more than 10K pa your income deductible relief is limited to RM6K only.
Let say your total income is RM100K you will deduct all income deductible reliefs to derive your taxable income then you find the tax band for your taxable income to derive your tax to be paid for the year then less any tax already paid through your monthly deductions and all your tax deductible reliefs to finally come to the amount of tax payable/overpaid tax
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QUOTE(mobio.dev @ Feb 26 2012, 10:51 PM)
EPF is limited to 3k only, then insurance 3k, so total 6k
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Is this being stated somewhere officially?
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want to ask regarding e-B submission,

i- for 1st 6 months in 2011, I'm an employee, then be freelancer, so in filing there is 3 column for Perniagaan 1, 2, 3 with kod perniagaan and amount, for freelance service is it need to fill in Perniagaan 1 column with appropriate code and Penggajian column under 'Pendapatan Berkanun Lain' for the employment, is this correct

ii - for 'Perjalanan dan pengangkutan' claim, is it credit card bill is enough for fuel or need to get bill from petrol stn, can i scan and print all fuel, parking, toll bill since the details will disappear when keep for long

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 26 2012, 06:37 PM)
All tax relieves are deducted from the gross income in order to compute for chargeable (taxable) income.

Your taxable income will determine which tax bracket you'll fall into.
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Since tax is deducted automatically from my pay. Does that mean the personal relief tax deduction I have to claim from them at the end of the financial period each year? I.e. personal tax relief is 10k. Taxable income for the year is 84000, EPF/socso contribution for the year is 9417, tax paid is 6312 which is 8.46% (i assume EFP Socso contribution is not taxed). So I can claim back 8.46% of 10k which amounts to rm846.

Is this correct?
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QUOTE(evo.com @ Feb 27 2012, 12:02 AM)
Since tax is deducted automatically from my pay. Does that mean the personal relief tax deduction I have to claim from them at the end of the financial period each year? I.e. personal tax relief is 10k. Taxable income for the year is 84000, EPF/socso contribution for the year is 9417, tax paid is 6312 which is 8.46% (i assume EFP Socso contribution is not taxed). So I can claim back 8.46% of 10k which amounts to rm846.

Is this correct?
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The monthly deducted from your pay is just an estimation.

Once you put all the figures from the EA form into the e-BE, the e-BE system will perform its calculation accordingly including the personal relieves.

At the end, if the e-BE discovered that you're overpaid. They'll send you the refund cheque.

Gross income (from all taxable sources) - eligible personal relieves = taxable income.

*Eligible personal relieves: http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...3&unit=1&sequ=1

Taxable income will be divided into brackets: http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...it=5000&sequ=11 to determine your overall tax needed to be paid

Then, if you have rebate, that will be deducted one too.

You can perform the manual calculation yourself. I'm not sure if it'll be matching your equations above.




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QUOTE(evo.com @ Feb 27 2012, 12:02 AM)
Since tax is deducted automatically from my pay. Does that mean the personal relief tax deduction I have to claim from them at the end of the financial period each year? I.e. personal tax relief is 10k. Taxable income for the year is 84000, EPF/socso contribution for the year is 9417, tax paid is 6312 which is 8.46% (i assume EFP Socso contribution is not taxed). So I can claim back 8.46% of 10k which amounts to rm846.

Is this correct?
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with all the data ready. first u fill in the boxes in your e-filing, total income, epf&insurance(max 6k), medical, other benefits in kind to arrive at taxable income. then you will know your income tax for the year then only you deduct the tax already paid of RM6312 to determine if you need to pay extra tax or a refund for overpaid tax
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QUOTE(EVON4477 @ Feb 25 2012, 10:58 AM)
hi all,

I'm feel that the pelepasan cukai for individual is very little..it just RM 9000 which is RM 750 per month.
Some more, the housing (which not bought on year 2010) & car installment can get rebate not? These more burden for us now...
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yes you are right. but I don't think car installment have a rebate
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I have filed for 5 years and never heard of tax relief on car hire purchase!
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I have filed for 5 years and never heard of tax relief on car hire purchase!
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We wish that will be new 2013 Budget annoucement to boost car sales
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The last two to three budget were only focusing on hybrid cars.
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QUOTE(mobio.dev @ Feb 26 2012, 10:51 PM)
EPF is limited to 3k only, then insurance 3k, so total 6k
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There is no official proportion. Hence, epf and life is not limited to 3k each. Can be either 4k EPF or 2k Life or vice versa...




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Another question:
How does these divs from REITs( Real Estate Investment Trusts) work into the personal taxation?

In Msia, theres withholding 10% tax on MRIETs divs.
In Singapore theres 0% on SREITs divs.

Do you have to declare these divs as income and pay the necessary personal taxes?

eg Lets say one is paying 26% personal tax...
Does one have to pay the oustanding 16% tax on divs form MREITs?

And the 26% tax on the divs from SREITs?

Thanks
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 25 2012, 01:01 PM)
For property yes and you must have a valid S&P.

For car, definitely a big NO.
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But the property is bought before Year 2010 which did not qualify tax relief on tax submission year 2010 & 2011 which offer by government now..
I'm really need more about this info so that I can claim back my TAX (PCB) which already paid monthly..its really burden for all of us nowadays sad.gif

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sigh, our gomen must be darn broke. first they alleged that i didn't declare everything and said that unless i can furnish the documents of my house loan, and my EA form, they will charge me extra (can't remember how much but it was a few hundred RM).

i called them up, scanned copies of the all documents and sent it to them last month. i just got another mail from them now asking for my documents for 2005, 2006, and 2008.... what the heck man....
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QUOTE(lostasylum @ Feb 28 2012, 04:32 PM)
sigh, our gomen must be darn broke. first they alleged that i didn't declare everything and said that unless i can furnish the documents of my house loan, and my EA form, they will charge me extra (can't remember how much but it was a few hundred RM).

i called them up, scanned copies of the all documents and sent it to them last month. i just got another mail from them now asking for my documents for 2005, 2006, and 2008.... what the heck man....
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Congrats. They are starting to audit you.

Anyway, if all your past 7 years docs are in order, there is nothing to worry. thumbup.gif Just go bang table with them.

If there are fake deductions or no proof or i-dont-know submissions ... kantoi sweat.gif

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hey guys, I got my BE form for the first time.

Just to confirm, if my total income(E1) - deductables(D20) = less than RM35000 I get a Rm400 rebate correct?
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Feb 29 2012, 12:43 AM)
hey guys, I got my BE form for the first time.

Just to confirm, if my total income(E1) - deductables(D20) = less than RM35000 I get a Rm400 rebate correct?
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Yes.

Refer to: http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=5...5&unit=1&sequ=1
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I started work on 1 Dec 2011 (first job in Malaysia).

The company did not deduct PCB for me that month.

Jan and Feb I got deducted PCB.
But on my payslip the "tax file number" is left blank.

So what actually happens to my tax prepayment?

Do I need to file for income tax for 2011?

Is my company supposed to apply for a tax file for me?

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sure can claim, but have to be under your mother's name

QUOTE(ccmd @ Dec 20 2011, 08:48 PM)
Hi,

Would appreciate if anybody could answer my questions:

1. Do buying hearing aid for my mother count as tax relief?
2. Does the receipt have to state my name or is it okay if it's under my mother's name only?

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You need to apply ur own tax file number most of the time, edaftar is easy and efiling is easy as well. just go to their website http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=2...1&unit=4&sequ=1

Regarding the PCB, YA 2011 you dont have to pay any tax therefore they did not deduct your PCB. If i were you, I would not go and apply tax file number for YA 2011, instead i will apply for YA 2012. Because it takes time for them to open a tax file for you, if delay = penalty haha. so better start on 2012 ba wink.gif by the way, you get your feb salary edi?

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Hello All,

I am new to this thread, just wonder how i claim or submit my income tax for business company (Sdn. Bhd) ?
By doing myself can save cost by pay an accountant fees right ?

Any suggestion or link for steps / which document needed to keep is pretty much appreciated.

Thanks
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QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Feb 29 2012, 06:15 PM)
Hello All,

I am new to this thread, just wonder how i claim or submit my income tax for business company (Sdn. Bhd) ?
By doing myself can save cost by pay an accountant fees right ?

Any suggestion or link for steps / which document needed to keep is pretty much appreciated.

Thanks
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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Feb 29 2012, 03:37 PM)
I started work on 1 Dec 2011 (first job in Malaysia).

The company did not deduct PCB for me that month.

Jan and Feb I got deducted PCB.
But on my payslip the "tax file number" is left blank.

So what actually happens to my tax prepayment?

Do I need to file for income tax for 2011?

Is my company supposed to apply for a tax file for me?
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As suggested, too rush to get a new file for YA2011 (to declare in 2012), since IRB will be busy with their system, setting up counters, weekend work, etc.

Wait until after June 2012, then go get a new file from LHDN office. Or maybe by that time, your finance/HR already get for you and print on payslip.

Then wait Mar 2013 to declare (using the new file number) for YA2012. In that form, there is a section where you can fill up for past-year un-declared income. So you can fill up Dec-2011 and xxx salary, this (Dec-2011) won't get taxed since just one month income for YA2011.

QUOTE(bumble_b33 @ Feb 29 2012, 06:15 PM)
Hello All,

I am new to this thread, just wonder how i claim or submit my income tax for business company (Sdn. Bhd) ?
By doing myself can save cost by pay an accountant fees right ?

Any suggestion or link for steps / which document needed to keep is pretty much appreciated.

Thanks
Bee
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Also, as suggested, Sdn Bhd is not as simple as Sole Prop. You need to close account, audit sign off, secretary fees, etc. If you can setup a Sdn Bhd, do not save on the ~2k expenses p.a.

After all, the liability of directors in Sdn Bhd and Sole Prop is the same. Why you want to setup Sdn. Bhd., right ? If can setup, surely can afford the extra cost for the additional paperwork.

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damn true -.- sdn. bhd. is no joke, dun even dare to think about how complicated a bhd can be biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mobio.dev @ Feb 29 2012, 05:12 PM)
sure can claim, but have to be under your mother's name
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The receipt need to be under your name for your mother's name lah
Eg. Mobio Tan for Ng Giok Gee

This means you PAID for the item for whose use.
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it must to be clear stated on the receipt thumbup.gif
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eBe is ready and can be accessed now.

Completed all my details but haven't submit.
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hey guys,
anyone know how to pay tax with credit card installment?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2012, 08:35 AM)
eBe is ready and can be accessed now.

Completed all my details but haven't submit.
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Same here... do submit early to get your refund early !!!
No refunds for me for YA2011 cry.gif cry.gif Time to pay taxes due before 30 April 2012
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hey guys,
anyone know how to pay tax with credit card installment?
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Hi guys.

First time tax payer here. How do I calculate rebate for Housing Loan Interest?

My case ;

House purchased in 2010
Price : RM 304300
Current monthly installment : RM 1441
Profit rate : 4.5%

Thanks!
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Of course you can't pay your taxes with CC... it may become DEBT
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is it? i heard my friend done it before. after pay with CC, then just owe the bank not the ehasil.
any expert here?

btw for the RM10000 interest housing tax relief, it is equal to the monthly installment x 12 month?
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QUOTE(klthor @ Feb 29 2012, 05:37 PM)
You need to apply ur own tax file number most of the time, edaftar is easy and efiling is easy as well. just go to their website http://www.hasil.gov.my/goindex.php?kump=2...1&unit=4&sequ=1

Regarding the PCB, YA 2011 you dont have to pay any tax therefore they did not deduct your PCB. If i were you, I would not go and apply tax file number for YA 2011, instead i will apply for YA 2012. Because it takes time for them to open a tax file for you, if delay = penalty haha. so better start on 2012 ba wink.gif by the way, you get your feb salary edi?
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Feb salary, yes got already.
Also got PCB deduction, no problems with this.

When you mean apply for YA 2012 tax file, means when do I actually go and apply for it?

My company said at the end of this year, they will print out some form (didn't catch what the HR said) and will apply for tax file for me.

Also, the prepaid tax deduction from my company does not follow the schedule 2010 on hasil's website. My company is using computer generated payslip, and I got deducted about RM6 more.


Added on March 1, 2012, 10:26 am
QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Feb 29 2012, 06:46 PM)
As suggested, too rush to get a new file for YA2011 (to declare in 2012), since IRB will be busy with their system, setting up counters, weekend work, etc.

Wait until after June 2012, then go get a new file from LHDN office. Or maybe by that time, your finance/HR already get for you and print on payslip.

Then wait Mar 2013 to declare (using the new file number) for YA2012. In that form, there is a section where you can fill up for past-year un-declared income. So you can fill up Dec-2011 and xxx salary, this (Dec-2011) won't get taxed since just one month income for YA2011.
Also, as suggested, Sdn Bhd is not as simple as Sole Prop. You need to close account, audit sign off, secretary fees, etc. If you can setup a Sdn Bhd, do not save on the ~2k expenses p.a.
Thank you! I will keep tracking, but my payslip the finance officer only print once every few months.

Feb pay already got, but payslip not yet receive.
I only received my Dec '11 and Jan '12 payslip in mid Feb. :S

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QUOTE(saiga @ Mar 1 2012, 10:01 AM)
Hi guys.

First time tax payer here. How do I calculate rebate for Housing Loan Interest?

My case ;

House purchased in 2010
Price : RM 304300
Current monthly installment : RM 1441
Profit rate : 4.5%

Thanks!
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look at your statement, normally there will be 2 amount. Principal + interest = RM 1,441. add up all the interest , thats the interest you can claim in relief (MAX RM10k).


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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
Feb salary, yes got already.
Also got PCB deduction, no problems with this.

When you mean apply for YA 2012 tax file, means when do I actually go and apply for it?

My company said at the end of this year, they will print out some form (didn't catch what the HR said) and will apply for tax file for me.

Also, the prepaid tax deduction from my company does not follow the schedule 2010 on hasil's website. My company is using computer generated payslip, and I got deducted about RM6 more.


Added on March 1, 2012, 10:26 am

Thank you! I will keep tracking, but my payslip the finance officer only print once every few months.

Feb pay already got, but payslip not yet receive.
I only received my Dec '11 and Jan '12 payslip in mid Feb. :S
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EA form is the name, its your annual income from the company and an evident to show LHDN, so thats your income smile.gif if the Company apply for you then its good, just make sure to ask them to apply for 2012! meaning your 1st income will be on jan 2012 tongue.gif, so that you can skip 2011 tax return!! O.O
i feel evil haha

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QUOTE(klthor @ Mar 1 2012, 10:46 AM)
look at your statement, normally there will be 2 amount. Principal + interest = RM 1,441. add up all the interest , thats the interest you can claim in relief (MAX RM10k).


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EA form is the name, its your annual income from the company and an evident to show LHDN, so thats your income smile.gif if the Company apply for you then its good, just make sure to ask them to apply for 2012! meaning your 1st income will be on jan 2012 tongue.gif, so that you can skip 2011 tax return!! O.O
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I don't think can skip the Dec 2011 income, anyway for me it doesn't matter.
Because after deduct off the FY2011 personal relief, I don't have to pay for anything for FY2011.

I do prefer to just do everything proper, so that hasil doesn't come after me and even if they do I have proof that I did everything correctly.

on a side note, the question about whether we purchase 2 or more computers, can we claim a total of RM3000 relief or is it just 1 computer?

Also, I went through hasil's website, but it doesn't state much about combined/spouse tax filing and their allowances/relief.

I can only find the rebate @ RM400 per person.

Next question assuming this scenario:

This year wife not working but there are shares under her name. So tax vouchers are under her name.

Can we do joint assessment? Or would separate assessment be better?

If we do joint assessment for the year, in future if she starts working, can she then do individual assessment?
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my bloody ex-boss is not giving me my ea form, can i just total up my income and deductions using my payslips?
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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 11:06 AM)
I don't think can skip the Dec 2011 income, anyway for me it doesn't matter.
Because after deduct off the FY2011 personal relief, I don't have to pay for anything for FY2011.

I do prefer to just do everything proper, so that hasil doesn't come after me and even if they do I have proof that I did everything correctly.

on a side note, the question about whether we purchase 2 or more computers, can we claim a total of RM3000 relief or is it just 1 computer?

Also, I went through hasil's website, but it doesn't state much about combined/spouse tax filing and their allowances/relief.

I can only find the rebate @ RM400 per person.

Next question assuming this scenario:

This year wife not working but there are shares under her name. So tax vouchers are under her name.

Can we do joint assessment? Or would separate assessment be better?

If we do joint assessment for the year, in future if she starts working, can she then do individual assessment?
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if the wife has not work before then you can not elect for join assessment . but nowadays i dun think ppl will join assessment
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my bloody ex-boss is not giving me my ea form, can i just total up my income and deductions using my payslips?
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if the wife has not work before then you can not elect for join assessment . but nowadays i dun think ppl will join assessment
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Thank you on this.

What about computers?

Because this is a grey area, doesn't exactly state clearly on the website as well.
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Thank you on this.

What about computers?

Because this is a grey area, doesn't exactly state clearly on the website as well.
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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 10:20 AM)
Feb salary, yes got already.
Also got PCB deduction, no problems with this.

When you mean apply for YA 2012 tax file, means when do I actually go and apply for it?

My company said at the end of this year, they will print out some form (didn't catch what the HR said) and will apply for tax file for me.

Also, the prepaid tax deduction from my company does not follow the schedule 2010 on hasil's website. My company is using computer generated payslip, and I got deducted about RM6 more.


Added on March 1, 2012, 10:26 am

Thank you! I will keep tracking, but my payslip the finance officer only print once every few months.

Feb pay already got, but payslip not yet receive.
I only received my Dec '11 and Jan '12 payslip in mid Feb. :S
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If you want to do proper tax filing, declare Dec-2011 also.
I can tell you if you get audited deep down, it is so easy to find your income in 2011, e.g. LHDN can ask KWSP for all your EPF contribution rolleyes.gif

Monthly PCB +/- RM10-20 or even RM20-100+ is quite normal, especially on the month you receive extra commission, bonus, etc. Just let it be. Submit your tax once a year and you'll get all those numbers sorted out.
Then you can either get back some money from LHDN (over-deduct on PCB) or top-up to pay the tax (under-deduct).

QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 11:06 AM)
I don't think can skip the Dec 2011 income, anyway for me it doesn't matter.
Because after deduct off the FY2011 personal relief, I don't have to pay for anything for FY2011.

I do prefer to just do everything proper, so that hasil doesn't come after me and even if they do I have proof that I did everything correctly.

on a side note, the question about whether we purchase 2 or more computers, can we claim a total of RM3000 relief or is it just 1 computer?

Also, I went through hasil's website, but it doesn't state much about combined/spouse tax filing and their allowances/relief.

I can only find the rebate @ RM400 per person.

Next question assuming this scenario:

This year wife not working but there are shares under her name. So tax vouchers are under her name.

Can we do joint assessment? Or would separate assessment be better?

If we do joint assessment for the year, in future if she starts working, can she then do individual assessment?
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Officially, it follows 1 computer receipt. Choose the more expensive one.
Unless the computer shop is willing to help you on the invoice as 1 PC = RM3,000. whistling.gif

This year wife not working (YA2012) , will only submit next year 2013.
If you mean your wife not working in 2011 (YA), then do a combined assessment.

Yes, if she starts working again, then can do separate assessment. There is a tickbox in page 1 or 2 of the form.

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This year wife not working (YA2012) , will only submit next year 2013.
If you mean your wife not working in 2011 (YA), then do a combined assessment.



what if wife not working but got some small amount of commision from doing property sales of less than rm5K only?

can we ignore it and declare as wife not working?
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If wife not working and ZERO income for YA2011, do she still need to file for BE form YA2011 ?
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 1 2012, 12:18 PM)
If you want to do proper tax filing, declare Dec-2011 also.
I can tell you if you get audited deep down, it is so easy to find your income in 2011, e.g. LHDN can ask KWSP for all your EPF contribution  rolleyes.gif

Monthly PCB +/- RM10-20 or even RM20-100+ is quite normal, especially on the month you receive extra commission, bonus, etc. Just let it be. Submit your tax once a year and you'll get all those numbers sorted out.
Then you can either get back some money from LHDN (over-deduct on PCB) or top-up to pay the tax (under-deduct).
Officially, it follows 1 computer receipt. Choose the more expensive one.
Unless the computer shop is willing to help you on the invoice as 1 PC = RM3,000.  whistling.gif

This year wife not working (YA2012) , will only submit next year 2013.
If you mean your wife not working in 2011 (YA), then do a combined assessment.

Yes, if she starts working again, then can do separate assessment. There is a tickbox in page 1 or 2 of the form.
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If wife never work before? Like now housewife.
Can still do combined assessment? Or she cannot even be included?

Also, I had no other income in 2011 except for dec 2011.
No commissions nothing, so my PCB does not fluctuate, but no idea how they calculate as it is not as per the schedule 2010.
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QUOTE(MYstombox @ Mar 1 2012, 02:15 PM)
If wife never work before? Like now housewife.
Can still do combined assessment? Or she cannot even be included?

Also, I had no other income in 2011 except for dec 2011.
No commissions nothing, so my PCB does not fluctuate, but no idea how they calculate as it is not as per the schedule 2010.
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IF your wife had not work before, you can not elect for joint assessment. She must have total income for previous years.

as for pcb, there are 2 method. computerised and schedule. in fact, computerised will be more accurate. u can get the calculator from LHDN website as well.


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Also, when you mean total income over the years.
What if shares were bought in her name?
Dividend qualifies for income, so can that be used for joint assessment?

Ah okay, thanks.
Appreciate it.

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Also, when you mean total income over the years.
What if shares were bought in her name?
Dividend qualifies for income, so can that be used for joint assessment?

Ah okay, thanks.
Appreciate it.
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let put it this way, if your wife did not submit tax return before and has no income for this year. then u can not joint with her.

2 types of dividend, 1 = tax exempted and 2 = taxable. please refer to the dividend slip, if it is not tax exempted then they have already deduct the % from your dividend. you need to calculate and see if you can refund for the tax paid . go to LHDN website, is should have the calculation working paper. its kinda complicated for me to list how to do so, so better go dl the worknig paper and flw step by step. or else look for some tax agent to do it for you. and yes, if ur wife received div she has to file in tax return.
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anyone able to login to efiling for BE form now? I get some weird error when login...
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I was able to login this morning.
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anyone able to login to efiling for BE form now? I get some weird error when login...
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By the way, it may be good to post the weird error message and how U got it (logging in "1st time log in" or .... using what browser) thus some of us techies may help ascertain what happened (eg. digicert, browser security settings - assuming U are using IE, etc.).
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is commision received by real estate agent taxable?
have to declare if the amount is small below rm5k?


Added on March 1, 2012, 7:31 pm
QUOTE(klthor @ Mar 1 2012, 03:20 PM)
let put it this way, if your wife did not submit tax return before and has no income for this year. then u can not joint with her.

2 types of dividend, 1 = tax exempted and 2 = taxable. please refer to the dividend slip, if it is not tax exempted then they have already deduct the % from your dividend. you need to calculate and see if you can refund for the tax paid . go to LHDN website, is should have the calculation working paper. its kinda complicated for me to list how to do so, so better go dl the worknig paper and flw step by step. or else look for some tax agent to do it for you. and yes, if ur wife received div she has to file in tax return.
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dividen received from as1m shares have to declare?

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is commision received by real estate agent taxable?
have to declare if the amount is small below rm5k?


Added on March 1, 2012, 7:31 pm

dividen received from as1m shares have to declare?
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I get error like this:

Server Error in '/indexind2012' Application.
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Method not found: 'Void BAL.clsBAL_Index.err_handling(System.String, System.String, System.String, System.String, System.String)'.

<and some other errors related to this>

I was able to login earlier this morning too then now cannot
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i wish i had my EA form so that i can submit my tax return as well smile.gif
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Insurans nyawa dan KWSP??

what is this?
insuran (i have Rm100 x 12 = RM1200)
KWSP (RM4xxx)

so , i need total up meh?
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Insurans nyawa dan KWSP??

what is this?
insuran (i have Rm100 x 12 = RM1200)
KWSP (RM4xxx)

so , i need total up meh?
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Insurans nyawa dan KWSP??

what is this?
insuran (i have Rm100 x 12 = RM1200)
KWSP (RM4xxx)

so , i need total up meh?
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orite... done filling.. waiting for my money back.. lol sleep.gif
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orite... done filling.. waiting for my money back.. lol sleep.gif
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You're fast man! I haven't got my EA form yet!
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first time filling it, hantam saje la doh.gif

how long should i wait before get the balance pay to me back? drool.gif laugh.gif
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what a stupid site... first day of filling, it's down the day itself. shame..
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Mar 1 2012, 08:56 PM)
what a stupid site... first day of filling, it's down the day itself. shame..
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taiko, are you getting some server asp kind of error? same as me then tongue.gif
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man, good to see you here. Yeah, server asp error... system is not scalable enough.
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If it's server capacity problem, you guys should do the filing during off peak hours or odd hours.
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i just noticed another part can claim rm3000 relief

INSURANS PENDIDIKAN DAN PERUBATAN
Pelepasan tidak melebihi RM3,000 bagi premium insurans yang dibayar atas polisi
pendidikan atau faedah perubatan untuk individu, suami, isteri atau anak.
Subseksyen 49(1B)

meaning i can claim rm3000 if my wife has the medical insurans of rm3k and i dont? or vise versa?
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edit: managed to fix the problem

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QUOTE(xtjs @ Mar 1 2012, 09:39 PM)
i just noticed another part can claim rm3000 relief

INSURANS PENDIDIKAN DAN PERUBATAN
Pelepasan tidak melebihi RM3,000 bagi premium insurans yang dibayar atas polisi
pendidikan atau faedah perubatan untuk individu, suami, isteri atau anak.
Subseksyen 49(1B)

meaning i can claim rm3000 if my wife has the medical insurans of rm3k and i dont? or vise versa?
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That's right... even YA2010 also can claim wife's Medical Insurance BUT do not not double-claim ok ?
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but what if the credit card payment auto deduction is in her name?
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but what if the credit card payment auto deduction is in her name?
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great. thanks. save rm780 now

hope this they refund back the excess payment..... i still havent got last years refund... sad.gif
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the system is accessible now. smile.gif
if we submit e-Filing earlier, we will get refund earlier as well? or they will consolidate everyone and give returns after Apr.
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QUOTE(justanovice @ Mar 1 2012, 11:05 PM)
the system is accessible now. smile.gif
if we submit e-Filing earlier, we will get refund earlier as well? or they will consolidate everyone and give returns after Apr.
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Based on last year's result, the earlier you E-filling, the quicker the refund drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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Based on last year's result, the earlier you E-filling, the quicker the refund  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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I have a rental property. In 2011, the Developer issued strata title to individual purchasers. I incurred legal fees. Is this tax deductible against the rental income?
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I have a rental property. In 2011, the Developer issued strata title to individual purchasers. I incurred legal fees. Is this tax deductible against the rental income?
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SSPN Savings Tax Statement for YA2011 will be available from 5 March 2012 onwards via PTPTN's website.
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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Mar 2 2012, 12:50 AM)
I have a rental property. In 2011, the Developer issued strata title to individual purchasers. I incurred legal fees. Is this tax deductible against the rental income?
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I have a rental property. In 2011, the Developer issued strata title to individual purchasers. I incurred legal fees. Is this tax deductible against the rental income?
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The only thing I deduct against the rental income is expenses for the year, i.e. repairs, maintenance of property.
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one question - i have both life insurance which includes medical and i also bought MLTA which has both life and medical included in it for housing - both are under prudential. I asked my agent, he told me that I can add in the figures mentioned under medical for both the personal insurance (for medical) + the MLTA insurance (for medical) and fill that under the insurans pendidikan dan perubatan column in the efiling - is what he said correct? I can just add the two figures up? Or does govt only allow it to be for personal insurance medical only?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 01:33 PM)
one question - i have both life insurance which includes medical and i also bought MLTA which has both life and medical included in it for housing - both are under prudential. I asked my agent, he told me that I can add in the figures mentioned under medical for both the personal insurance (for medical) + the MLTA insurance (for medical) and fill that under the insurans pendidikan dan perubatan column in the efiling - is what he said correct? I can just add the two figures up? Or does govt only allow it to be for personal insurance medical only?
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 2 2012, 01:36 PM)
Prudential should send you a statement specifically for Tax purposes.
Use only figures in the Prudential Tax statement.
If you did not receive it, you can call Prudential to resend/fax to you.
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yes i got the figures but my question is - does the govt allow me to put in both medical figures for personal and the other is for housing and lump it together under the insurans pendidikan dan perubatan column?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 01:42 PM)
yes i got the figures but my question is - does the govt allow me to put in both medical figures for personal and the other is for housing and lump it together under the insurans pendidikan dan perubatan column?
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Not allowed to do so lah
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 01:33 PM)
one question - i have both life insurance which includes medical and i also bought MLTA which has both life and medical included in it for housing - both are under prudential. I asked my agent, he told me that I can add in the figures mentioned under medical for both the personal insurance (for medical) + the MLTA insurance (for medical) and fill that under the insurans pendidikan dan perubatan column in the efiling - is what he said correct? I can just add the two figures up? Or does govt only allow it to be for personal insurance medical only?
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He was wrong.

You can be penalised for filling wrongly and get a penalty when audit time.
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exactly that's why i'm asking. i guess i better just fill up for my personal insurance one then, since my housing "medical insurance" is not too significant. I can probably just ignore that. Thanks guys.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 02:05 PM)
exactly that's why i'm asking. i guess i better just fill up for my personal insurance one then, since my housing "medical insurance" is not too significant. I can probably just ignore that. Thanks guys.
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There is a max of RM6k(if not mistaken) for insurance together with your EPF contribution that you are allowed
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QUOTE(rayng18 @ Mar 2 2012, 02:23 PM)
There is a max of RM6k(if not mistaken) for insurance together with your EPF contribution that you are allowed
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erm that one is life insurance..what i'm referring to is the 3k max for MEDICAL insurance.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 02:25 PM)
erm that one is life insurance..what i'm referring to is the 3k max for MEDICAL insurance.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 02:25 PM)
erm that one is life insurance..what i'm referring to is the 3k max for MEDICAL insurance.
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Depending on the insurer, like Prudential, the annual statement has breakdown on Life insurance and Medical insurance.

Therefore, under that 6k portion, it is for :
EPF + Life Insurance = maximum 6k totaled up.

Medical insurance = maximum 3k

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 2 2012, 03:24 PM)
Depending on the insurer, like Prudential, the annual statement has breakdown on Life insurance and Medical insurance.

Therefore, under that 6k portion, it is for :
EPF + Life Insurance = maximum 6k totaled up.

Medical insurance = maximum 3k
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i think a lot don't read what i'm asking or don't get what i'm saying so i'll say it again - I have the annual statement with the breakdown on both life insurance and medical insurance. My initial question was: I have bought personal insurance AND MLTA housing insurance. Both have separate statements stating the amount of life insurance and medical insurance. Now - my question is simple - is it alright to add BOTH The medical insurance (for personal insurance PLUS housing MLTA insurance FOR MEDICAL)? My agent told me this should be fine, but I'm having doubts which is why I asked.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 02:25 PM)
erm that one is life insurance..what i'm referring to is the 3k max for MEDICAL insurance.
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max is 3k. indeed
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 03:32 PM)
i think a lot don't read what i'm asking or don't get what i'm saying so i'll say it again - I have the annual statement with the breakdown on both life insurance and medical insurance. My initial question was: I have bought personal insurance AND MLTA housing insurance. Both have separate statements stating the amount of life insurance and medical insurance. Now - my question is simple - is it alright to add BOTH The medical insurance (for personal insurance PLUS housing MLTA insurance FOR MEDICAL)? My agent told me this should be fine, but I'm having doubts which is why I asked.
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as long as u can show them its ok. i dun think they limit HOW MANY insurance u can buy.. they just cap you at life insurance + EPF = 6k and midical insurance = 3k
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 03:32 PM)
i think a lot don't read what i'm asking or don't get what i'm saying so i'll say it again - I have the annual statement with the breakdown on both life insurance and medical insurance. My initial question was: I have bought personal insurance AND MLTA housing insurance. Both have separate statements stating the amount of life insurance and medical insurance. Now - my question is simple - is it alright to add BOTH The medical insurance (for personal insurance PLUS housing MLTA insurance FOR MEDICAL)? My agent told me this should be fine, but I'm having doubts which is why I asked.
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As answered above by someone else, if you are unsure, go ask LHDN. Not LYN.
Otherwise, if unsure (in doubt), do NOT put it in.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 2 2012, 04:08 PM)
As answered above by someone else, if you are unsure, go ask LHDN. Not LYN.
Otherwise, if unsure (in doubt), do NOT put it in.
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understood. I'm asking to see if anyone knew to save my time talking to LHDN. Will do. Thanks.
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 04:18 PM)
understood. I'm asking to see if anyone knew to save my time talking to LHDN. Will do. Thanks.
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it will be better to email them, call them = pass around si beh mafan.
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QUOTE(klthor @ Mar 2 2012, 03:52 PM)
as long as u can show them its ok. i dun think they limit HOW MANY insurance u can buy.. they just cap you at life insurance + EPF = 6k and midical insurance = 3k
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medical insurance max 3k so if patient need with operation there no extra included for?
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QUOTE(CyberKewl @ Mar 2 2012, 03:32 PM)
i think a lot don't read what i'm asking or don't get what i'm saying so i'll say it again - I have the annual statement with the breakdown on both life insurance and medical insurance. My initial question was: I have bought personal insurance AND MLTA housing insurance. Both have separate statements stating the amount of life insurance and medical insurance. Now - my question is simple - is it alright to add BOTH The medical insurance (for personal insurance PLUS housing MLTA insurance FOR MEDICAL)? My agent told me this should be fine, but I'm having doubts which is why I asked.
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You can add 2 insurance together, there is no clause said one cannot. They limit the amount not the number of insurance.

But MLTA housing insurance inside got medical insurance coverage?
This I am not sure already, first time heard it.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 2 2012, 05:04 PM)
You can add 2 insurance together, there is no clause said one cannot. They limit the amount not the number of insurance.

But MLTA housing insurance inside got medical insurance coverage?
This I am not sure already, first time heard it.
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my MLTA covered by prudential apparently has it..anyway i'll probably check with LHDN or just omit that part from the housing insurance and just use my personal medical insurance figure instead
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just noticed another part can claim rm3000 relief

INSURANS PENDIDIKAN DAN PERUBATAN
Pelepasan tidak melebihi RM3,000 bagi premium insurans yang dibayar atas polisi
pendidikan atau faedah perubatan untuk individu, suami, isteri atau anak.
Subseksyen 49(1B)

meaning i can claim rm3000 if my wife has the medical insurans of rm3k and i dont? or vise versa?




QUOTE(ronnie @ Mar 1 2012, 10:10 PM)
That's right... even YA2010 also can claim wife's Medical Insurance BUT do not not double-claim ok ?
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another headache, income tax hotline says can only claim spouse medical insurance if do taksiran bersama

can anyone confirm?


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QUOTE(flodder @ Mar 2 2012, 04:27 PM)
medical insurance max 3k so if patient need with operation there no extra included for?
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Medical insurance is not medical expenses.

Medical insurance is the insurance you pay to buy like hospitalization, surgery, Op Theatre, etc.

Medical expenses therefore are paid by the insurer, not you.

However, if you need to top up the surgery, etc. that is not consider as "Medical Insurance"

QUOTE(xtjs @ Mar 2 2012, 05:27 PM)
another headache, income tax hotline says can only claim spouse medical insurance  if do taksiran bersama

can anyone confirm?
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Well, LHDN hotline already confirm. Who is the better authority on this ?
Otherwise, try email them as suggested. At least you have black and white in case later LHDN audit you for wrong submission, provided LHDN reply email to you and say can.

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 2 2012, 05:43 PM)
Medical insurance is not medical expenses.

Medical insurance is the insurance you pay to buy like hospitalization, surgery, Op Theatre, etc.

Medical expenses therefore are paid by the insurer, not you.

However, if you need to top up the surgery, etc. that is not consider as "Medical Insurance"
Well, LHDN hotline already confirm. Who is the better authority on this ?
Otherwise, try email them as suggested. At least you have black and white in case later LHDN audit you for wrong submission, provided LHDN reply email to you and say can.
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i see. so it mean need pay and buy for other insure only can full cover
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Have bought a MRTA for my loan, is it deductable as LIFE INSURANCE?
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Have bought a MRTA for my loan, is it deductable as LIFE INSURANCE?
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Of course not! Do you understand the word life insurance or insurance nyawa? You need a valid policy for it.
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Thank you all who replied.

QUOTE(klthor @ Mar 2 2012, 09:41 AM)
no.... but it will add into your cost of purchase, meaning RPGT will lower when u sell ur property withoin 5 years.
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Legal fee on strata title cannot be used as expenses for the rental income, as far as I knew.
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The only thing I deduct against the rental income is expenses for the year, i.e. repairs, maintenance of property.
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Hi all sifus here, I have one problem. I was an employee until July 2011. In mid August, I started my own company( sole properieter ) . I already have a tax file with LHDN which i submited last time. Now with business, I need to submin form B. I have these questions:

1) Do i need to submit both borang BE and borang B to declare tax for the year 2011 ?

2) I downloaded the form B and I found it so complicated to fill in .. well am a graduate but can't really understand what they want.. anyone can guide to fill in form B?

3) My business is slow and no profit. But I gave myself salary. Sometimes I give more, sometimes I give less, but there is no proof, just some records,cause its all my money only what. but when it comes to tax, is it better to give higher salary or lower to ownself ?


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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 2 2012, 06:22 PM)
Of course not! Do you understand the word life insurance or insurance nyawa? You need a valid policy for it.
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But i thought MRTA also is life insurance what ? when they send me the statement that they deducted money from my flexi loan for MRTA, they stated there, Life assured : my name . so why is that not considered life insurance ?

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QUOTE(fanfankwok @ Mar 2 2012, 10:08 PM)
Hi all sifus here, I have one problem. I was an employee until July 2011. In mid August, I started my own company( sole properieter ) . I already have a tax file with LHDN which i submited last time. Now with business, I need to submin form B. I have these questions:

1) Do i need to submit both borang BE and borang B to declare tax for the year 2011 ?

2) I downloaded the form B and I found it so complicated to fill in .. well  am a graduate but can't really understand what they want.. anyone can guide to fill in form B?

3) My business is slow and no profit. But I gave myself salary. Sometimes I give more, sometimes I give less, but there is no proof, just some records,cause its all my money only what. but when it comes to tax, is it better to give higher salary or lower to ownself ?


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But i thought MRTA also is life insurance what ? when they send me the statement that they deducted money from my flexi loan for MRTA, they stated there, Life assured : my name . so why is that not considered life insurance ?
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Just do once which is borang B and due on 30 June. Ya its a bit complicated as you need to prepare the Profit and Loss a/c as well. So just get your co P&L ready and just fill in the blanks.

IRB will change your income tax number from SGXXXXXXXXXXXX to OGXXXXXXXXXXX later by an official letter.

Anyway still have ample time to do as due in June
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hi guys - i have a question - for the :

Faedah pinjaman perumahan (FYI I qualify so don't worry about that)

My house is under both my name and my wife's name and my interest is approx 8k for 2011 - should this be split equally 50-50 or can this be fully allocated to either myself or my wife for the pelepasan? does anyone know?

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