Good morning everybody,I been reading the thread from page 1 until here.

I just got some question in my mind now. , Appreciate it if anyone could assist me.

Right now I working with 1 company and my basic salary is RM 2,200 and fixed allowance is RM 400 = RM 2,600. I am paying EPF and socso for this company A. Then got a company B I been working as part time as a favor by helping them,they giving me a random salary every month, like November giving me RM 1,000,then December RM 1,400,then January RM 2,000. So sometimes this company B paying the salary to me is not fixed and this company I didn't contribute EPF and socso as I only part time.

Then salary became like this ..

November 2011 : RM 2,600 + RM 1,000 = RM 3,600
December 2011 : RM 2,600 + RM 1,400 = RM 4,000
January 2012 : RM 2,600 + RM 2,000 = RM 4,600

I think the figure sure reach around RM 3,500 every month, now I afraid 

So right now do I need to declare income tax or what  . FYI I don't have EA form with me because I been keep on changing job for better pay and allowance.

Anybody can tell me what to do ? 

Although you change job often, need not worry, all employers are required to prepare the EA form to all its employees so for 2010 say you work for Co A full time and doing part time for Co B, you should be geting 2 EA forms from both Co A and Co B for 2010,if you have not got them ask from HR of both Co A and Co B for the EA form,then during submission of your income tax return in April 2012 just total up the annual income for both Co A and Co B.

I assume you have not open an income tax file with IRB, so you need to open your income tax file, usually your company HR will do it for you, just ask them to do it if not you have to go to IRB to open a file. No matter how big or small your income you still need to open an income tax file and declare your income. So check with your HR/IRB whether your income tax file is opened and you will be getting an income tax file reference number.

Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?

Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?

1) Company B didn't deduct EPF and Socso from u, meaning that this income is "illegal"
2) So, obviously Company B can't give u EA.
3) So u need to declare Company A and Company C income if u total income is over RM2500 (my advise) to IRB.

1) totally disagree, eg,if you do part time unit trust consultant, mana ada deduct EPF or Socso, they still provide you with commission statement so you still have to declare

Good morning everybody,I been reading the thread from page 1 until here.

I just got some question in my mind now. , Appreciate it if anyone could assist me.

Right now I working with 1 company and my basic salary is RM 2,200 and fixed allowance is RM 400 = RM 2,600. I am paying EPF and socso for this company A. Then got a company B I been working as part time as a favor by helping them,they giving me a random salary every month, like November giving me RM 1,000,then December RM 1,400,then January RM 2,000. So sometimes this company B paying the salary to me is not fixed and this company I didn't contribute EPF and socso as I only part time.

Then WhiteWing need to say clearly what is his part-time job, this will clear all the doubt.
No need to agree or disagree this and that and guess what is his part-time job.
See the word "SALARY" written by WhiteWing below. Look carefully before make any comment.

Wonder u react in such a weird way?

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Added on January 19, 2012, 2:55 pm

You are the one who is acting weird, as the part time income is not fixed its not called salary its called wages and its not illegal. you still have to declare all income earned, we are just trying to give an opinion and so arguments like this is normal to get everyone know.

Rayng18,thank you so much. FYI I can get the EA form from company A because I just work there for 3 months only,before that I work with company C for 9 months, I grab that one from them too and company B said no EA form for me

Is it I just need to submit EA form 2011 from company A and company C to IRB department?

Yes,I not yet have an income tax file with IRB. I don't want the company A HR to file the income tax because I don't want them to know I got side-income. In company A HR,they think my salary no need to declare because didn't reach the limit yet.

I heard the income tax will deduct 12% is it ?

Why just now u said it maybe commission and now turn the word to salary/wages?

Either salary or wages, it is required to contribute EPF and Socso by law.

Since u like to argue with me, then u need to give the reason why Company B didn't contribute EPF and Sosco for him?

its because we don't know that's why i say maybe and read further his part time pay is not fixed and yes it is by law part timers needs to contribute to EPF and Socso if he contributes 30% to 70% of his normal fulltime job time to his part time job
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?sec=n.../20100818160440
all these are not known, maybe he work only just for few hours and the onus is on Co B to deduct EPF and Socso, and since he is getting paid (and pls be informed that payslip is given to him) he needs to declare his part time income also.

Then WhiteWing need to say clearly what is his part-time job, this will clear all the doubt.
No need to agree or disagree this and that and guess what is his part-time job.

All these presumption are assumed, thus no point to discuss further until whitewing makes clarificaton.

firee818,I don't know how to say. My job scope in company B is like this :-
I work with them,meet customer. If I able to close the deal,they share with me some of the profit of the deal I closed. That why can see inside the payslip,every month amount is different. This is the reason why they say cannot give me EPF and socso contribution.

can submit 2011 tax already?

A problem guyss,

i have just started working in the real world and realised my company has not deducted any pcb for me. I don;t even know if i have a account with income tax.

Do i need to register myself with LHDN or will HR do everything for me? When are the taxes due, i started working in august, so that means this august i'll need to submit my taxes?

Do i register online EDAFTAR and give the income tax number to HR so that they can start doing the PCB?

A problem guyss,

i have just started working in the real world and realised my company has not deducted any pcb for me. I don;t even know if i have a account with income tax.

Do i need to register myself with LHDN or will HR do everything for me? When are the taxes due, i started working in august, so that means this august i'll need to submit my taxes?

Do i register online EDAFTAR and give the income tax number to HR so that they can start doing the PCB?

firee818,I don't know how to say. My job scope in company B is like this :-
I work with them,meet customer. If I able to close the deal,they share with me some of the profit of the deal I closed. That why can see inside the payslip,every month amount is different. This is the reason why they say cannot give me EPF and socso contribution.

Here's my 2 cents

You do not need to declare those income that doesn't have EPF deduction. There's actually many such "income" that no people will go declare, just because they can save them self from taxes.
e.g. Selling in Lowyat Garage Sales is one good example. You help people from other state take order and go lowyat get best offer and you take profit from there. Such as profit are income also, but not classified as taxable income.

Income without EPF deduction are not audit-able as well. One reason you do not need to afraid if people say you run from tax. Without proper record, they can't sue you.

Wrong advice. 

Those Garage sales income is also a taxable income.
Those income without EPF contribution also a taxable income, for eg. commission based deal etc.

There is no such thing of income without EPF deduction is not auditable, it can be traced if they really want to.