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TSchesterksy
post May 31 2011, 11:30 AM, updated 15y ago

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I have been diagnosed with slipped/herniated disc due to poor form of deadlifting and I will be laying off from bodybuilding for approximately 9 to 12 months. sad.gif
Is there a way to maintain muscle mass during the injury period?

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post May 31 2011, 11:36 AM

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dude ... regardless of what u better get a proper rest and dont strain ur back bone much.

Chances for ur cartilage to dry up is high when the injury is not healed properly . And u will end up having pain in ur back the rest of ur life.


For ur upper part body, swimming could help a lot. ( if u could swim )
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post May 31 2011, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(akidos @ May 31 2011, 11:36 AM)
dude ... regardless of what u better get a proper rest and dont strain ur back bone much.

Chances for ur cartilage to dry up is high when the injury is not healed properly . And u will end up having pain in ur back the rest of ur life.
For ur upper part body, swimming could help a lot. ( if u could swim  )
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thanks bro, going for surgery to fix my disc soon
I think d only thing i can do for d next few months is swimming and stationery bike
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post May 31 2011, 11:46 AM

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Best tip I can give you is forget about muscle mass for now,concentrate on making your back better and strengthening your back muscles.Muscle can be packed on later on as you have muscle memory on your side.

I went through compressed disks before so I know how that feels.
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post May 31 2011, 12:46 PM

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I hate these threads. They make me scared to deadlift/squat/lift -_____-

OP, i agree with pedro. Recover first. You'll gain the mass back through muscle memory.
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post May 31 2011, 04:32 PM

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Concentrate on recovering first. I speak from personal experience when I say trying to train through a back injury is just not a good idea. I ended up making my pain worse. So for now, take the time off to get fully recovered, and once you get the green light, start again slowly and gradually.

Swimming is good, especially with disc injuries.
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post May 31 2011, 05:49 PM

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thanks everyone for the advices. I heard that high amount of protein and glutamine daily could reduce possible of muscle mass loss. However, researches showed that glutamine may not help preserve muscle mass tho hmm.gif


Added on May 31, 2011, 5:50 pm
QUOTE(Kaffatsum @ May 31 2011, 12:46 PM)
I hate these threads. They make me scared to deadlift/squat/lift -_____-

OP, i agree with pedro. Recover first. You'll gain the mass back through muscle memory.
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Just look at your form whenever you do deadlift or squat, i was careless and ended up with the present condition sad.gif

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post May 31 2011, 06:00 PM

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me too i wanted to ask this kind of question.. but mine is just 1 month rest.. saw on some forums, that you need to cut your carb but not too much of your protein.. anybody with long-term injury experience?

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post May 31 2011, 08:01 PM

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how did you injury yourself specifically? really sorry to hear about it btw, that sucks
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post Jun 1 2011, 09:47 AM

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Dude... thats some injury you have there. I had an my ACL redone a couple of years back leaving the muscle in my thigh area completely dead. My thighs looked like jello when I got out of the hospital. But you knoe what bro, it all came back after awhile. Saying that, you need to put your focus on getting your back fixed and on your scheduled physio.

Once that is over and done with and your back is feeling much better, you can resume your training with caution. Take care bro, here's hoping ur surgery goes well.
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post Jun 1 2011, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ May 31 2011, 08:01 PM)
how did you injury yourself specifically? really sorry to hear about it btw, that sucks
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Ya bro, can share with us how u got urself injured, hope it can help us here to prevent it happen.
Bro, get well soon n come back stronger. cheers.
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post Jun 2 2011, 04:46 PM

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9-12 months layoff. Ouch.

I had a slight shoulder strain and had to stop doing anything for 2 weeks. I was pissed off, I can only imagine your frustration.

Get well soon, bro.
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post Jun 2 2011, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(AW55699 @ Jun 1 2011, 10:25 AM)
Ya bro, can share with us how u got urself injured, hope it can help us here to prevent it happen.
Bro, get well soon n come back stronger. cheers.
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I was rushing actually and I was deadlifting about 50kg, I wasnt concentrating on the form and it happens sad.gif
Next time if you're going to gym, make sure u have lotsa spare time
and look at ur form especially to keep ur back straight and always bend ur legs when deadlifting.

Lift safe everyone


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:25 pm
QUOTE(Dharmain @ Jun 1 2011, 09:47 AM)
Dude... thats some injury you have there. I had an my ACL redone a couple of years back leaving the muscle in my thigh area completely dead. My thighs looked like jello when I got out of the hospital. But you knoe what bro, it all came back after awhile. Saying that, you need to put your focus on getting your back fixed and on your scheduled physio.

Once that is over and done with and your back is feeling much better, you can resume your training with caution. Take care bro, here's hoping ur surgery goes well.
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Thanks bro. Although d doc said i will b fully healed approx 3 months, I think I will keep myself from lifting for 9-12 months
Swimming would be d only thing that keep me fit for the next few months sad.gif


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:26 pm
QUOTE(CargoCult @ Jun 2 2011, 04:46 PM)
9-12 months layoff. Ouch.

I had a slight shoulder strain and had to stop doing anything for 2 weeks. I was pissed off, I can only imagine your frustration.

Get well soon, bro.
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Thanks bro, u get well soon too smile.gif


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:47 pmI hope to share this out for anyone who in the future might hurt their back in lifting, running and whatever activities that are rigorous enough to strain your back.
It happened to me I hurt my back while deadlifting late February. The first thing I did was apply some traditional ointment. The next day I realise I was not comfortable with my back and I visited a chiropractor. I took an X-Ray and the chiropractor realized that my back was not serious. I was a little 'relieved' but the thing that niggling me was my hamstring as it was kinda tight. The chiropractor taught me a few techniques that can loosen my tight hamstring and it works. My hamstring felt better and my back was fine as well.
However, in late April, once in a while I realized that there was numbness on my left leg and sometimes there was a sudden sharp pain on my left calf. I thought it was cramp at first and it really didn't bother me at first. In mid May, the numbness and sudden pain was getting worse and unbearable. I decided to visit the chiropractor, he suspected that I have slipped disc aka herniated disc. He recommended me to do an MRI. I did one and the doctor at the hospital diagnosed me with slipped disc. I believe this is one of the worst injury that can happen to someone who loves lifting.
Nonetheless, I am positive that I will be able to lift again. Just have to avoid potential risky exercise like deadlifting and squats in the future. Rest would be the most important thing for me to do. I guess after many years of lifting, the next few months would be my 'vacation'. tongue.gif
I am going for the surgery soon and I hope every bros out there lift safely and if you happen to hurt your back, visit ur nearest hospital and do an MRI. X-Ray cant detect slipped disc.
Lift safe bros smile.gif

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QUOTE(chesterksy @ Jun 2 2011, 08:22 PM)
I was rushing actually and I was deadlifting about 50kg, I wasnt concentrating on the form and it happens sad.gif
Next time if you're going to gym, make sure u have lotsa spare time
and look at ur form especially to keep ur back straight and always bend ur legs when deadlifting.

Lift safe everyone


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:25 pm

Thanks bro. Although d doc said i will b fully healed approx 3 months, I think I will keep myself from lifting for 9-12 months
Swimming would be d only thing that keep me fit for the next few months  sad.gif


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:26 pm

Thanks bro, u get well soon too  smile.gif


Added on June 2, 2011, 8:47 pmI hope to share this out for anyone who in the future might hurt their back in lifting, running and whatever activities that are rigorous enough to strain your back.
It happened to me I hurt my back while deadlifting late February. The first thing I did was apply some traditional ointment. The next day I realise I was not comfortable with my back and I visited a chiropractor. I took an X-Ray and the chiropractor realized that my back was not serious. I was a little 'relieved' but the thing that niggling me was my hamstring as it was kinda tight. The chiropractor taught me a few techniques that can loosen my tight hamstring and it works. My hamstring felt better and my back was fine as well.
However, in late April, once in a while I realized that there was numbness on my left leg and sometimes there was a sudden sharp pain on my left calf. I thought it was cramp at first and it really didn't bother me at first. In mid May, the numbness and sudden pain was getting worse and unbearable. I decided to visit the chiropractor, he suspected that I have slipped disc aka herniated disc. He recommended me to do an MRI. I did one and the doctor at the hospital diagnosed me with slipped disc. I believe this is one of the worst injury that can happen to someone who loves lifting.
Nonetheless, I am positive that I will be able to lift again. Just have to avoid potential risky exercise like deadlifting and squats in the future. Rest would be the most important thing for me to do. I guess after many years of lifting, the next few months would be my 'vacation'.  tongue.gif
I am going for the surgery soon and I hope every bros out there lift safely and if you happen to hurt your back, visit ur nearest hospital and do an MRI. X-Ray cant detect slipped disc.
Lift safe bros smile.gif
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More or less the exact same thing I went through. Had an x-ray done initially and was told there was nothing wrong with me. Only a few months later did it finally get too painful to bear, did I get a second opinion and did a MRI. Swimming will be good, so long as it's something easy on the back like freestyle. And, you don't need to completely neglect squats and deadlifts, rather, make sure your form is perfect when doing them. I started squatting again this year, the first time after 6 months of being away from training. So, yeah, it's a good idea to give your body all the time it needs to recover before getting back at it.
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post Jun 2 2011, 11:13 PM

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Mri is when they insert some sort of liquid to ur nerves/veins and do a scan to check for problems? If that is so,how much for a scan?

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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Jun 2 2011, 11:13 PM)
Mri is when they insert some sort of liquid to ur nerves/veins and do a scan to check for problems? If that is so,how much for a scan?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging
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post Jun 6 2011, 10:38 AM

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Shit bro , now I'm going to take extra cautious when I deadlift ..

Take care bro ..
TSchesterksy
post Jun 6 2011, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(-Dan @ Jun 2 2011, 10:29 PM)
More or less the exact same thing I went through. Had an x-ray done initially and was told there was nothing wrong with me. Only a few months later did it finally get too painful to bear, did I get a second opinion and did a MRI. Swimming will be good, so long as it's something easy on the back like freestyle. And, you don't need to completely neglect squats and deadlifts, rather, make sure your form is perfect when doing them. I started squatting again this year, the first time after 6 months of being away from training. So, yeah, it's a good idea to give your body all the time it needs to recover before getting back at it.
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I'll consider whether to deadlift or not, doc say my disc wont get back to its pre-injury condition anymore, so lift at my own risk sad.gif
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post Jun 6 2011, 07:10 PM

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I've begun to try to end my day (or right after deadlift):

1) Backbend: Try to search in youtube keyword "back bend", "drop back", "chakrasana yoga" "ashtanga drop back", "wrestler bridge"
2) Spine decompression hang
3) I also like to do weighted pull/chin up on my last workout. Think of someone grabbing me down from the bar. Sort of decompress but still staying tight whole body... not sure whether working or not. But I do it anyway.
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Read the article and im surprised this person didnt op for the surgery. I guess its a risky thing to do but like d doc said, my nerves condition is deteriorating/dying due to the disc pressing on my nerves, operation may help imho.

The bending exercises seem very convincing especially for the spine decompression hang. I will try those exercises once I can start to lift again. smile.gif Very good post, thanks hoxy smile.gif


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