QUOTE(CSC @ Jun 14 2011, 08:47 PM)
of course°° LYN Honda Insight Owners Thread V3 °°, The Power Of Hybrid. Owners Welcome ! !
°° LYN Honda Insight Owners Thread V3 °°, The Power Of Hybrid. Owners Welcome ! !
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Jun 14 2011, 09:15 PM
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Jun 19 2011, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Jun 18 2011, 12:47 AM) 199Nm of torque. That is better than Camry 2.0 u know.. somemore Insight have lighter body... but it is impossible to have all 100% output from engine and motor at the same time as shown below... 170+ Nm of torque is still impressive though. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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Jun 20 2011, 12:23 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Jun 20 2011, 12:18 AM) 121+78=199 japanese(hondas) cars always show on crank output.At least its the theory... Motor and engine indeed working simultaneously. Notice the assist needle went up together with engine rpm under full acceleration? That graph might be showing on wheel hp and torque rather than crank output. only conti cars show on wheel. |
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Jun 20 2011, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Jun 20 2011, 09:49 AM) I dont think honda was stupid enough for publishing combined max torque figure @ 199nm and at the same time contradict themselves with dynograph showing max torque 170nm only.... they are smart enough not to put 199Nm torque combined, because it is not possible.14% is about right considering transmission + rolling resistance loss After all, its a dyno graph. Usually done on-wheel. S, according to user manual it means 'second', according to fanboy it means 'sport'. if it the dyno shows on wheels, please explain why the max power/hp is the same as the dynograph with the specs on paper? in fact, just take the engine only graph and look at the max torque, it is 121Nm, unless u r trying to say that the engine has no power loss, you are wrong to say that the dyno shows on the wheel ratings. they did not put max torque as 199Nm, instead put it in seperate figures. as i said again, all jap cars dyno are all at the crank, be it civic, lancer, city,altis and any other jap cars. i have nothing against insight, in fact, i love it, but this is to avoid confusion This post has been edited by ckk125: Jun 20 2011, 12:43 PM |
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Jun 20 2011, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Jun 20 2011, 02:22 PM) The main objective of sandwiching electric motor between engine and transmission was to fill the torque gap at lower rpm (1500-4000). I believe they've achieved that target by giving Insight enough poke to keep up with the traffic + getting good fuel economy. 199nm is figure for Insight owners to boast around or 'keepin up with the Kardashians' haha...170+ Nm of torque for 1.2 tonne car, more than enough to smoke most 1.5l cars. As torque is not the same at every point in a drive train, and considering friction at WOT etc, i leave the actual max torque figure to Honda. The most important thing is, output of this ice + ima is good enough for daily use, + smoke unsuspecting driver with bigger cc. Added on June 20, 2011, 2:23 pm Anybody getting this? |
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Jul 28 2011, 02:01 PM
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good read here regarding honda insight.
http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/2GInsightFull/index.html QUOTE As I understand from Tomita-san, this is part of the enhancements to the ECU reflash recently. However, Tomita-san cautioned that seeing full assist on the meter does not correspond to absolute extra power in motor assist. The electric motor is a relatively low-rpm design and delivers it max torque/power in the rpm region below 3,000rpm. Thereafter, its power capacity drops off quickly as we approach the LDA engine's max rev of above 6,000rpm. Consequently, at high speeds, say 120kph, yes WOT will receive maximum assist from the IMA motor. But the actual increase in torque/power will be a lot lower than what would be available at lower speeds, when the engine needs to rev at lower rpm. Once engine rpm goes abover 4500rpm, there is really not much assist from the IMA motor. There is still some assist but not a lot. For this reason, the motor is tuned not to deliver full assist over sustained WOT operation because engine rpm would have peaked into a region the IMA motor is not very efficient in. i think this explains why the max torque and power is not as simple as max engine torque + max motor torque This post has been edited by ckk125: Jul 28 2011, 02:11 PM |
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Aug 11 2011, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Aug 11 2011, 10:25 AM) No. The best is 700++ per 30 liters. If you count 40 liters, the most is 800++ Torque 121Nm + 78Nm Stability on highway QUOTE However, Tomita-san cautioned that seeing full assist on the meter does not correspond to absolute extra power in motor assist. The electric motor is a relatively low-rpm design and delivers it max torque/power in the rpm region below 3,000rpm. Thereafter, its power capacity drops off quickly as we approach the LDA engine's max rev of above 6,000rpm. Consequently, at high speeds, say 120kph, yes WOT will receive maximum assist from the IMA motor. But the actual increase in torque/power will be a lot lower than what would be available at lower speeds, when the engine needs to rev at lower rpm. Once engine rpm goes abover 4500rpm, there is really not much assist from the IMA motor. There is still some assist but not a lot. For this reason, the motor is tuned not to deliver full assist over sustained WOT operation because engine rpm would have peaked into a region the IMA motor is not very efficient in. so, max torque is not 121 + 78 http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/2GInsightFull/index.html |
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Aug 12 2011, 12:43 PM
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Honda insight's euro ncap score. impressive. adult occupant rating better than prius.
http://www.euroncap.com/results/honda/Insight/365.aspx |
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