Wan anot? Illegal wan of course..

Oh, not taman midah.. It's taman MEGAH... Hahahah...


This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 6 2011, 03:06 PM

Ya lor...specially catered to suit ur personal tastebuds...

Hahah...or maybe wiring loose...

This saturday mah no meh? Only thing is need suggestion for place.

Wait lah.. organise sepang tt next year... Then I drive my 159 there...

No lah... I drive slow slow... Feel the passion of Alfa & the engine noise while u all race the sh!t outta each other...

Can.. but damn expensive... Go get it from accessory shop, i think should be around RM 60-80.. From Proton it's RM 140 if im not mistaken.

LoL.. I thought I've been going around telling ppl michelin tyres can get very noisy over time?

Anyway, u're using stock rims rite? Try Falken Ziex, or Yokohama A/C-drive... Good value for money, quiet & cheap as well..

U using michelin what series? And how long have u been using it? Go check ur tyres again.. Especially on the inside part of the tyre.. If u're unlucky ur michelin tyre might wear unevenly..

What size?

4k KM only, u haven't hear it yet.. Just wait till around 7k-8k KMs then u'll see..

Ur front thread u can check by turning ur tyre all the way to the left or right then see/touch the inner part of the thread wall..

Free balancing? Usually balancing do 1 time enough d wan. How many times he wan free for u?

Dono. Michelins are made like that.

I told u ur pistons kaput d. That's the reason why ur engine noise vibrates like hell, also the reason why ur engine oil spilled all over the place. I suspect they gave u a unit with cracked engine block (although this is rather impossible, but anything is possible with proton). Also explains why ur engine oil level is below the safe zone even after I topped it up the other nite.

No 2nd option man. This is ur new and 1st car, rite? If ur car so new already claim insurance, what's the point of getting a new car just to lose a few thousand bucks? Let Proton earn blind profit? The best u can do now? SUE THEM!! I'll be by ur side if u need any help, u have my support. Sue till they lat foo for providing a customer with brand new car 'pre-installed' with problems. If the problems are minor, then it's ok. But in ur case u can actually sue them n ask them to pay u to compensate for the damages & time spent/wasted.

The electronic board that he meant were the ignition coils. The ignition coils are burnt, therefore causing severe damage to other parts of the engine including the internals.

Back. What help u need?

No. Practice ur rights as a consumer. This is the reason why Proton's quality hasn't been improving over the years. Because the CONSUMERS DONT ACTUALLY CARE!! Sue them till they revamp their whole QC & PDI departments to ensure that future buyers & existing Proton owners get what quality stuff & service, which is what they're paying for.

Good. But tell ur dad even if they replace a new car for u also go bring it to court. Don't be satisfied just because they replace a new car for u, or else their QC & PDI will NEVER improve and the way we look at Proton will stay the same. Dun just diam diam, u must know ur rights. The most Proton will do is replace a new engine for u. How much u wanna bet with me for that? They'll just swap a new engine for u & stamp it at JPJ, whereby this process will take up an entire month, maybe more. They'll bring out all sorts of bullsh!t telling u that they need the authorities to sign this & that, need to inspect, bla bla. Proton never take their customers seriously until they retaliate & complain. Time is gold, and if u had a dollar for every single second u wait for them to replace ur engine, u'll be a millionaire by the time u get ur car.

Press coverage? Good idea, but can be done only after u sue them. Or else Proton sue u back for defamation

Trust ur ears. If u think u hear loose noise, chances are they never tighten it properly. About the sluggish/underpowered part, u may wanna let ur ECU adapt itself for a few days to a week first before deciding to do anything else. Anything to do with electronics and sensors have to go through our ECU. So give it some time.

Urs is PE, rite? If they change ur sensor from 'VDO' to 'Made In China', it means all the PEs out there are running VDO Made In Germany stuff. C'mon, Continental is a Germany brand, of course must let it drink Hoeegarden la. If u let it drink chinese tea, how to expect it to perform?

What i'm trying to say is, what are the possibilities of an OEM sensor not working well with OEM ECU? And what are the chances of a 'China mali' brand working better with a German-engineered ECU?

The Persona reps are paid to promote PE, do u think they'll listen to u? But if u really get their attention, good. They have some really powerful voice and this can really make a lot of difference to ur court hearing.

Complain the SA no use la. He still got his car within the week, and getting car within 1 week considered good/fast enough d. The PDI & QC departments should be the target instead.

Explode? And what happens to u? Get burned alive in ur 3-day old PE? Since when Proton start making coffins in forms of self-destructing cars? Luckily u never start/drove ur PE around over the weekend, rite?

The meter shows water temperature, not engine oil temp.

Well, the future quality of Proton rests on the shoulder of unlucky people like u who got lemon units. But if u don't complain & sue them, then this will just go on, and the 'tak apa' attitude goes on. "Job well done? Hardly." So true.

U will, of course u will get back ur car. But how long will it take? And how can u be sure that the same issue will not return again? U will still face problems in the future, whether it's engine problem or not.

Try to unplug ur o2sensor then start ur engine. Leave it running for 10-15 minutes, switch it off then plug it back & start it again. FC shoot up, engine warning light comes out, car jerks during cold start, etc etc.

That's what I'm trying to tell u. U changed the crank sensor, and to a china made one. Unless it's 99.99% same as the German-made sensor (except for the Made in China stamp), then u will definitely face probs. And u actually let ur car go on for quite a while before u replace ur sensor, rite? There's a possibility ur ECU adapted that short period of time & is still using the same readings with ur new ECU. So as I said, give it some time. Let it roll, and see if there're any difference.

This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 6 2011, 11:39 PM

Come to think of it, the previous cases of PEs burning by themselves or burn while it's moving and claimed the lives of a few unlucky owners may be linked to the same problems. But most of the victims are female drivers, and female drivers usually know very little about cars to sense trivial symptoms like this.

Cheap things not good, good things not cheap. Familiar?

Yes, they have a spec guideline. But these guidelines are merely made in the sense that as long as ur car can run, as long as these stuffs can last u xxx KMs and as long as it's cheap, then it is 'Proton Approved'.

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Added on June 6, 2011, 11:34 pmWhy not? Let's say at standard gear ratio, at 4th gear 6k RPM at 220 KM/h. Let's say only lah. So most PEs become sluggish at 4th gear 5k-5.5k RPM, which is at 205-210 KM/h. Ur car climbs to 6k RPM/220KM/h faster and easier than other PEs that are struggling at 5k RPM. Which means it IS linked to the top speed.

This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 6 2011, 11:34 PM

Value ur life & ur loved ones...

With my new Alfa 159 2.2/3.2 Q4 JTS, the car is my sex toy, the highway is my playground...

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Added on June 6, 2011, 11:47 pm@Zeng, ur favourite..



This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 6 2011, 11:47 PM

U the video or my quote?

The car is my sex toy, the chicks are my playmate, the highways are my playground..

I'm not a saint, not yet a pope... LOL!!

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Added on June 7, 2011, 12:00 amThis Saturday TT @ Cheras.

Venue to be decided. Suggestions needed!!

This post has been edited by xandras: Jun 7 2011, 12:00 AM