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 Sony Ericsson XPERIA ARC Official Thread V2, Most Stunning & Beautiful Android phone

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post Jun 10 2011, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(bluebeary @ Jun 10 2011, 05:50 PM)
someone in lowyat study in japan and he/she did help buy from japan ..
u may find his/her service in garage ...

inside ur link, there's another link to japan seller site ..
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post Jun 10 2011, 07:51 PM

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hey guys, noob question on the xperia arc. I understand that we can hook up the phone to the TV with the HDMI cable and i know you can view videos and pics on the tv. 1st question, is the pic quality still good? 2nd question, can you hook it up to the tv and play games as well.

I'm seriously considering this model from Maxis due to the free gifts. I actually waited for xperia play but after looking at it, personally i feel it fails in comparison cos there isnt enough game support and the specs are like lower and price is kinda steep. So now moving thinking of moving to Arc but wanna get your feedback / advise.
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QUOTE(lykiat @ Jun 10 2011, 07:51 PM)
hey guys, noob question on the xperia arc. I understand that we can hook up the phone to the TV with the HDMI cable and i know you can view videos and pics on the tv. 1st question, is the pic quality still good? 2nd question, can you hook it up to the tv and play games as well.

I'm seriously considering this model from Maxis due to the free gifts. I actually waited for xperia play but after looking at it, personally i feel it fails in comparison cos there isnt enough game support and the specs are like lower and price is kinda steep. So now moving thinking of moving to Arc but wanna get your feedback / advise.
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bro u do know there are lots of games that are being optimized for xperia play that are coming up?
at least 20 more Source

plus the physical controls are good for playing emulators as well
so if you're into gaming, play is worth it smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2011, 09:48 PM

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So confuse now.

My fren went to check out the phone for me and found out that the internal storage only have 285MB on a brand new set. He said it is too small and ask me not to buy it. He said we cannot direct install to the SD card. You need to install to internet storage then transfer to SD and not all the apps is transferred. He show me he install a program total of 4MB but once he click transfer to SD the file only transfer 2MB and left another 2MB in internal storage. he said some program cannot even transfer and some might not function properly.

It is true? I was planning to get the Arc but after listen to his comment I kinda hold back. He did admitted the Arc is the most sexiest phone out there.
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Jun 10 2011, 09:48 PM)
So confuse now.

My fren went to check out the phone for me and found out that the internal storage only have 285MB on a brand new set. He said it is too small and ask me not to buy it. He said we cannot direct install to the SD card. You need to install to internet storage then transfer to SD and not all the apps is transferred. He show me he install a program total of 4MB but once he click transfer to SD the file only transfer 2MB and left another 2MB in internal storage. he said some program cannot even transfer and some might not function properly.

It is true? I was planning to get the Arc but after listen to his comment I kinda hold back. He did admitted the Arc is the most sexiest phone out there.
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Unfortunately your friend is not wrong. Although there are apk that you can help move the games/apps to SD card, your friend is right that some of the apps cannot be fully moved into SD card - some portions remain in internal storage - which is really, yes youre right - very low. Light users (those that dont gila games or apps) install a few apps, be prepared to see around 190+MB left in the internal storage; I think you can imagine medium to heavy apps and games users - sorryla, this is not the phone for you to do that. This is a 'gentleman' phone some say.

Some programs crash with 'force close' yes, your friend is also correct, but this depends on many other factors - cant blame low internal storage.
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jun 10 2011, 09:59 PM)
Unfortunately your friend is not wrong. Although there are apk that you can help move the games/apps to SD card, your friend is right that some of the apps cannot be fully moved into SD card - some portions remain in internal storage - which is really, yes youre right - very low. Light users (those that dont gila games or apps) install a few apps, be prepared to see around 190+MB left in the internal storage; I think you can imagine medium to heavy apps and games users - sorryla, this is not the phone for you to do that. This is a 'gentleman' phone some say.

Some programs crash with 'force close' yes, your friend is also correct, but this depends on many other factors - cant blame low internal storage.
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Arh, so sad. I will be using this phone for another 2-3 years so internal memory might be important. He recommend me HTC Sensation which is also one of my pick at the beginning but the screen suck. Yes it is qHD but the screen quality is terrible. The black background looks a bit white like those LCD you set brightness to 100%. He already set to lowest brightness but still a bit white. I hold HTC Incredible S side by side and it easily put Sensation to shame. Sensation viewing angle also not good. No offense to those Sensation owner.
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Jun 10 2011, 10:15 PM)
Arh, so sad. I will be using this phone for another 2-3 years so internal memory might be important. He recommend me HTC Sensation which is also one of my pick at the beginning but the screen suck. Yes it is qHD but the screen quality is terrible. The black background looks a bit white like those LCD you set brightness to 100%. He already set to lowest brightness but still a bit white. I hold HTC Incredible S side by side and it easily put Sensation to shame. Sensation viewing angle also not good. No offense to those Sensation owner.
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Ya you seem to clearly know your stuff and you have clear personal opinions about what you want - go for what suites you then - why regret if you get one you hear people talk so good about but dont suite your specific needs...right?

Im a new android user and my SE Arc only 2+ weeks old but Ive already read all the XDA threads on how to mod, upgrade, root etc it - so far so good but I bought this phone mainly bcos of what people said about the camera - photo and video. Comparing to my older SE camera and Nokia N8, I honestly think that all the marketing talk is really marketing talk - especially the video capability. Video shooting at HD only eats up more and more of the SD space, eventually I set it to 'Full Wide VGA' (which is better than just VGA) - so you think - whats the point of having a HD capable camera but dont use it - I think - ya la, whats the point, but whats the point if the video clip is so large and when processed in a video editor, the colors are good but the so called video image stabilizer still does not stabilize the clip - see these I took with the video camera to show indoorsindoors and outdooroutdoors

Many other things to cheong hei but Im only a new member, so I better not talk so much. Good luck biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jun 10 2011, 11:08 PM)
Ya you seem to clearly know your stuff and you have clear personal opinions about what you want - go for what suites you then - why regret if you get one you hear people talk so good about but dont suite your specific needs...right?

Im a new android user and my SE Arc only 2+ weeks old but Ive already read all the XDA threads on how to mod, upgrade, root etc it - so far so good but I bought this phone mainly bcos of what people said about the camera - photo and video. Comparing to my older SE camera and Nokia N8, I honestly think that all the marketing talk is really marketing talk - especially the video capability. Video shooting at HD only eats up more and more of the SD space, eventually I set it to 'Full Wide VGA' (which is better than just VGA) - so you think - whats the point of having a HD capable camera but dont use it - I think - ya la, whats the point, but whats the point if the video clip is so large and when processed in a video editor, the colors are good but the so called video image stabilizer still does not stabilize the clip - see these I took with the video camera to show indoorsindoors and outdooroutdoors

Many other things to cheong hei but Im only a new member, so I better not talk so much.  Good luck biggrin.gif
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I have a Canon camera and I only use VGA mode to shoot video. 720p eat too much space. Record friends and family moment a bit longer is more important than the quality.
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u managed to get 2.3.3 via OTA? i thought you mentioned that SE support were not sure when OTA fpr 2.3.3 will be available? blink.gif
anyways, where r u staying? how come u can get OTA for 2.3.3? mine just says that i have the latest firmward installed (2.3.2)


QUOTE(Bus Driver @ Jun 10 2011, 01:44 AM)
Mine is the same setup as yours...called up SE support,they're not sure when OTA will be available.
So ended up doing as what xda developers tutorial...flashed to generic global rom 181, rooted using Gingerbreak (took almost 10 mis) then used OTA to upgrade to 2.3.3...it worked! Now mine is 2.3.3 rooted,boot loader locked.
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Jun 10 2011, 07:21 AM)
Hi guys, the ori set is 2.3.3 out of box? Or still 2.3.2?
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bought mine like a week ago, and its 2.3.2 just update urself, wont take long
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QUOTE(asherteoh @ Jun 11 2011, 12:27 AM)
u managed to get 2.3.3 via OTA? i thought you mentioned that SE support were not sure when OTA for 2.3.3 will be available?  blink.gif
anyways, where r u staying? how come u can get OTA for 2.3.3? mine just says that i have the latest firmward installed (2.3.2)
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With the factory rom that came with the Arc I had the same problem as most of us, I then followed the steps mentioned in xda developers forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...?t=1115542 that is to flash the Arc to the Generic .181 Rom,root using gingerbreak 1.2 then use OTA to get 2.3.3 .145

I'm a noob to Android but reading all the 14 pages really helped.

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Thank you everyone for talking so much about this, especially Ultima for pointing to the discussion at the XDA forum.

Here's a short 4 minute video I made on how I did it from where I had compiled from all kinds and many days, nights of reading forum threads on how to downgrade to 2.3.2, root with Gingerbreak, then update OTA to 2.3.3 and still retaining root rights.

Enjoy the video and thank you everyone once again that had discussed and shared about this initiative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQefgUa_MWc
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jun 11 2011, 03:48 AM)
Thank you everyone for talking so much about this, especially Ultima for pointing to the discussion at the XDA forum.

Here's a short 4 minute video I made on how I did it from where I had compiled from all kinds and many days, nights of reading forum threads on how to downgrade to 2.3.2, root with Gingerbreak, then update OTA to 2.3.3 and still retaining root rights.

Enjoy the video and thank you everyone once again that had discussed and shared about this initiative.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQefgUa_MWc
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Great effort rclxms.gif I'm sure this will be beneficial to the forumers...
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QUOTE(Bus Driver @ Jun 11 2011, 11:45 AM)
Great effort rclxms.gif  I'm sure this will be beneficial to the forumers...
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Actually you indirectly gave me the courage and inspiration to go ahead with the initiative - I had read a lot of success and failure stories from the XDA forum but most if not all of them are Europeans and their OTA availability would surely be on different servers; however you successfully did it / dared to do it, hence it gave us Malaysians over here some level of confidence that it can be done - so thanks to you, we now have some sort of a rough howto from the video I made.

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post Jun 11 2011, 06:07 PM

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Just bought the Arc. The internal storage suck but I already knew that at the beginning so it is not a major disappointment for me. There are 3 early things which I found it to be an issue:

1. The phone button is too high and hard to press with 1 hand.
2. The default location of the phone/dialing which located at bottom right is very hard to press and it failed many times to detect the finger press. I need to move the button to other location.
3. The camera button is to stiff. I don't think I can get a got picture with it.

Oh, 1 more thing, the 1st unit I got has 1 dead pixel. I was so shock to see it but the seller change a new one for me. FYI, I already out from the shop then notice the dead pixel and causing them to return the unit to their vendor, which is kinda bad on their side.

Well, I somehow don't have the happy or excited feeling about my new Arc. Previous phones I was very excited but this one ... normal feeling. smile.gif Maybe the dead pixel affected my mentality.
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Jun 11 2011, 06:07 PM)
Just bought the Arc. The internal storage suck but I already knew that at the beginning so it is not a major disappointment for me. There are 3 early things which I found it to be an issue:

1. The phone button is too high and hard to press with 1 hand.
2. The default location of the phone/dialing which located at bottom right is very hard to press and it failed many times to detect the finger press. I need to move the button to other location.
3. The camera button is to stiff. I don't think I can get a got picture with it.

Oh, 1 more thing, the 1st unit I got has 1 dead pixel. I was so shock to see it but the seller change a new one for me. FYI, I already out from the shop then notice the dead pixel and causing them to return the unit to their vendor, whic sad.gif h is kinda bad on their side.

Well, I somehow don't have the happy or excited feeling about my new Arc. Previous phones I was very excited but this one ... normal feeling. smile.gif Maybe the dead pixel affected my mentality.
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So how much did u regret buying it for? Wait till u get the random self reboot and the wifi self disconnect problem; at least more than 50% chance owners will encounter this... sad.gif sorry man

But so far all u mentioned i believe quite common to those that own this phone... and oh, sorry again, theres also the camera video not sync with sound thingy... alamak how?

This post has been edited by ricstc: Jun 11 2011, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jun 11 2011, 06:34 PM)
So how much did u regret buying it for? Wait till u  get the random self reboot and the wifi self disconnect problem; at least more than 50% chance owners will encounter this... sad.gif sorry man

But so far all u mentioned i believe quite common to those that own this phone... and oh, sorry again, theres also the camera video not sync with sound thingy... alamak how?
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video and sound sync can be fixed via an update.... about the dial icon, change the position la its as easy as ABC

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Ya, sure can fix with update but poor guy buy new, highly marketed phone but got so many mafan things to fix - thats why he said new thing also dont feel shockshock, feel normal-heavy heart pulak rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Jun 11 2011, 06:07 PM)
Just bought the Arc. The internal storage suck but I already knew that at the beginning so it is not a major disappointment for me. There are 3 early things which I found it to be an issue:

1. The phone button is too high and hard to press with 1 hand.
2. The default location of the phone/dialing which located at bottom right is very hard to press and it failed many times to detect the finger press. I need to move the button to other location.
3. The camera button is to stiff. I don't think I can get a got picture with it.

Oh, 1 more thing, the 1st unit I got has 1 dead pixel. I was so shock to see it but the seller change a new one for me. FYI, I already out from the shop then notice the dead pixel and causing them to return the unit to their vendor, which is kinda bad on their side.

Well, I somehow don't have the happy or excited feeling about my new Arc. Previous phones I was very excited but this one ... normal feeling. smile.gif Maybe the dead pixel affected my mentality.
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1. tht one u can feel first b4 bought, so thts not an issue as u oledi accept it..
2. this one u can chg it easily..
3. u can always use the screen to take a picture..
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QUOTE(ricstc @ Jun 11 2011, 06:34 PM)
So how much did u regret buying it for? Wait till u  get the random self reboot and the wifi self disconnect problem; at least more than 50% chance owners will encounter this... sad.gif sorry man

But so far all u mentioned i believe quite common to those that own this phone... and oh, sorry again, theres also the camera video not sync with sound thingy... alamak how?
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I am the fortunate one as I did not experience it yet...but I know this is quite common on non high end phones.

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