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sl2007
post Jun 22 2011, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 15 2011, 11:20 AM)
If the rear extension is mainly on ground floor should is ok. The contractor need to locate the house rear beam and get the old"reinforcement bars" on the beam, join the bars to the new beam. So this will ensure the new wall and old wall will not crack and have hollow holes.  My mom house had this problem when we pay the contractor do the job and he did not tie the bars to the original, now to fix it will be costly. Just live with it.  Don't go for cheapest, go for quality and price matching, and ask why is more expensive how they do it.
My rear extension "maybe over done", 4 footing, each footing connected by a beam in the floor.  Than top beam. Next time i need, just add brick and can make 1st floor.  Also is RC slab, not normal clay roof smile.gif
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Since you are using RC Flat roof, I suggest you to use waterproofed concrete for the 1st RC Floor slab.. This is to prevent water leak into your newly extended area.... Apart from that, you really required a good C&S sub-contractor to do RC Flat roof...


Added on June 22, 2011, 9:33 am
QUOTE(eclipse-space @ Jun 22 2011, 12:45 AM)
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Agreed but maybe diffent method cos only for ground floor.

But normally tiang goes 4 ft deep 2 ft wide underneath. Sth like tat anyway
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Using brick to support the Beam above is not Standard Practice...

a) Load shall be transferred to the RC Structure unless your wall is Load Bearing designed wall..

b) For future extension, if you extend to hack/remove the said wall, high chances you damaged the RC Structure (E.g Beam and Column)..

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post Jun 22 2011, 09:58 AM

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sl2007, Thank you for the suggestion. Water proofing will be done for all expose RC slab. The RC roof is completed and the workmanship is acceptable. I can only wait for few month to make sure no crack. This i will hold the payment until 3 months later.

Will do water proofing after all other wet work complete.
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post Jun 22 2011, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(eclipse-space @ Jun 22 2011, 12:45 AM)
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Agreed but maybe diffent method cos only for ground floor.

But normally tiang goes 4 ft deep 2 ft wide underneath. Sth like tat anyway
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Indeed i saw them hack the existing ground and construct a concrete with rod steel to merge with the existing ground with the new wall.
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post Jun 22 2011, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 22 2011, 09:58 AM)
sl2007, Thank you for the suggestion. Water proofing will be done for all expose RC slab. The RC roof is completed and the workmanship is acceptable. I can only wait for few month to make sure no crack. This i will hold the payment until 3 months later.

Will do water proofing after all other wet work complete.
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If you are using "expose type" water proofing system, then you need to get Specialist Contractor to do it and request them for a Warranty...

Is you RC Flat Roof concrete casted in one-go or else? You need to ensure all joint are well done...

Good luck to RC Flat Roof...


Added on June 22, 2011, 10:30 am
QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 22 2011, 10:12 AM)
Indeed i saw them hack the existing ground and construct a concrete with rod steel to merge with the existing ground with the new wall.
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That is standard practice... But well, I guess your Sub-Contractor only used normal cement grout to grout it.... How about the length of the embedded rod, any idea of the length?


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post Jun 22 2011, 10:49 AM

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Tied the new wall with existing ground with dig deep abt 2 feet with concrete+steel

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All the tiang tiang, beam beam, concrete

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sl2007
post Jun 22 2011, 11:02 AM

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Well, the length is acceptable for light weight loading...

Anyhow, the steel rod used doesn't seemed to approved type.... but not to be too worried, it still works...

Try to kick or step the steel rod and see whether does the concrete chip-off.. Anyhow becareful when you do it, cos if slip you might injured your leg seriously....

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:08 AM

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Bro, how to kick and step laa...steel rod not approved type? hmmm...too thin?

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:12 AM

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Maybe you can try to bengkok it with some pipe or etc....

Just my judgement from your photo :-

a) Type steel rod wasn't procured from Registered steel miller... The size looks abit smaller...

b) The overall size is small and usually we should use "Flower Rod" for Main Bar and use "Normal Rod" for links...

Is abit technical here, anyhow it wouldn't make a big difference if no additional floor or loading is placed on top...
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post Jun 22 2011, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 10:28 AM)
If you are using "expose type" water proofing system, then you need to get Specialist Contractor to do it and request them for a Warranty...

Is you RC Flat Roof concrete casted in one-go or else? You need to ensure all joint are well done...

Good luck to RC Flat Roof...

TQ. Yes, is all expose type and casted in one goal, with proper gutter and level to allow water flow out. The contractor will guarantee of leak free, and I'll also make sure all the joining are leak free. Think they will be using

Funny, i remember many years back they use water proof cement , now they use waterproof compound.

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:17 AM

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Gary1981 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:17 AM)
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Hi bro,

Is the final outcome of the Steel Rod before pouring the concrete ?


Added on June 22, 2011, 11:29 am
QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 22 2011, 11:16 AM)
TQ. Yes, is all expose type and casted in one goal, with proper gutter and level to allow water flow out. The contractor will guarantee of leak free, and I'll also make sure all the joining are leak free.  Think they will be using

Funny, i remember many years back they use water proof cement , now they use waterproof compound.
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You are welcome... Well I not too sure how good is your SC workmanship during the concrete casting... May I know how thick is your slab?

Based on my experience, the Water Proofing compound required a precise workmanship to prevent water leakage...



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post Jun 22 2011, 11:45 AM

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Now I know why it only amounted to RM6k for your Kitchen Extension....

BTW, does it include plastering, painting, roof, ceiling and etc wet works..?
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post Jun 22 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:27 AM)
Hi bro,

Is the final outcome of the Steel Rod before pouring the concrete ?


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You are welcome... Well I not too sure how good is your SC workmanship during the concrete casting... May I know how thick is your slab?

Based on my experience, the Water Proofing compound required a precise workmanship to prevent water leakage...
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Last i measure is 4"+, when they making holes for WC (after my wife want to relocate the WC again).

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:49 AM

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RC Flat roof need to paint with weathershield paint or not? or paint with any other material?

thanks
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post Jun 22 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(edwardsiow @ Jun 22 2011, 11:49 AM)
RC Flat roof need to paint with weathershield paint or not? or paint with any other material?

thanks
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Not required, but waterproofing is a must.
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post Jun 22 2011, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:45 AM)
Now I know why it only amounted to RM6k for your Kitchen Extension....

BTW, does it include plastering, painting, roof, ceiling and etc wet works..?
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Mind to elaborate it more? how should it be done?

Inclusive plastering, roof and ceiling and other wet works
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post Jun 22 2011, 11:54 AM

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I don't see any problem with the rebar expect its links are quite far separated and maybe it's pathetically tiny in the picture. However, I guess it should be pretty much sufficient for light weight loading. Well, maybe you should ask your contractor that how deep he slot in his starter bar. From what i see in the photo, protrusion is good enough, what about penetration?

Besides, RC slab for roof. You better sure that your contractor do water proofing for you. Otherwise, it will be pain in your ass in the future.

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post Jun 22 2011, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 22 2011, 11:46 AM)
Last i measure is 4"+, when they making holes for WC (after my wife want to relocate the WC again).
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4"+... Acceptable... Anyhow you required to add a protective screed over the waterproofing....
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post Jun 22 2011, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(sl2007 @ Jun 22 2011, 11:55 AM)
4"+... Acceptable... Anyhow you required to add a protective screed over the waterproofing....
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protective screed?? What material is that? Can you explain more? thanks


Added on June 22, 2011, 11:59 am
QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 22 2011, 11:53 AM)
Not required, but waterproofing is a must.
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If you don't paint, under the Sun, i afraid around 1-2 years, surface sure will crack...

I am thinking of this problem..because I have RC flat roof too...

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